100% HD/CPU usage at ~1sec intervals whenever AU srvc is doing stu

Ive found that on my current install of windows when I am using Microsoft
update the automatic updates service has some major problems. When I am using
my system randomly I will start getting spikes of 100% CPU and HD usage for
no reason at all. I have determined that disabling the Automatic updates
service will stop the problem...but then i cant use the site. I don't even
see why the service is running in the first place as I have automatic updates
disabled...anyway I changed back to the original windows update and it all
works fine now. I was hoping that somebody could explain what the heck the
problem is as I cant figure it out. (4 write operations/s shouldn't bring my
WD Raptor 150Gb 10k RPM drive down to a crawl)

L4nd0n14n <> wrote:

> Ive found that on my current install of windows when I am using
> Microsoft update the automatic updates service has some major
> problems. When I am using my system randomly I will start getting
> spikes of 100% CPU and HD usage for no reason at all. I have
> determined that disabling the Automatic updates service will stop the
> problem...but then i cant use the site. I don't even see why the
> service is running in the first place as I have automatic updates
> disabled...anyway I changed back to the original windows update and
> it all works fine now. I was hoping that somebody could explain what
> the heck the problem is as I cant figure it out. (4 write
> operations/s shouldn't bring my WD Raptor 150Gb 10k RPM drive down to
> a crawl)

Apart from confirming that there have been a few other reports of 100% CPU
in Automatic Updates, we have not seen a solution yet. It appears to be a
rare phenomenon, and might be related to something specific about this
particular system.

--
Robin Walker [MVP Networking]

You are not alone in this...the fix temporarily is to DISABLE or put on
MANUAL the AUTOMATIC UPDATE Services in the Services Panel. By the way,
this is not a rare occurence either - on the contrary.



"L4nd0n14n" <> wrote in message
news:68924953-AD20-40AA-9670-...
> Ive found that on my current install of windows when I am using Microsoft
> update the automatic updates service has some major problems. When I am
> using
> my system randomly I will start getting spikes of 100% CPU and HD usage
> for
> no reason at all. I have determined that disabling the Automatic updates
> service will stop the problem...but then i cant use the site. I don't even
> see why the service is running in the first place as I have automatic
> updates
> disabled...anyway I changed back to the original windows update and it all
> works fine now. I was hoping that somebody could explain what the heck the
> problem is as I cant figure it out. (4 write operations/s shouldn't bring
> my
> WD Raptor 150Gb 10k RPM drive down to a crawl)

I'm getting this too. Installed July updates successfully on desktop PC, but
on laptop whatever I do it loops/uses 100% cpu. That's with 'notify me of
updates' or trying to do them manually with auto switched off. Once it starts
looping I can't get a Control-alt-del to work, so have to start process with
it up to see what's happening.

"Jeremy" wrote:

> You are not alone in this...the fix temporarily is to DISABLE or put on
> MANUAL the AUTOMATIC UPDATE Services in the Services Panel. By the way,
> this is not a rare occurence either - on the contrary.
>

This actually happens whenever the service is started...it doesn't matter if
its on automatic or manual mode. Also the 100% CPU usage isn't the problem as
my computer is still able to do stuff during that. Its the 100% usage of my
HD that is causing the problems. The CPU usage occurs slightly after the HD
usage (or maybe a while before it...). The only thing I can think of is that
when it is scanning for the non windows updates (IE Office and programs like
that) it is somehow running into a problem. The only extra piece of software
that it should be scanning for updates for that I have installed is Office
2003 Professional. I do know that the BIOS on my motherboard doesn't
correctly interface with the SATA controller. The company will be releasing
an update for this within a month so I will test again after that to see if
it fixes the problem (I have a ECS-755 A2 mobo with SiS 755 NB, SiS 964 SB
and a SiS 180 SATA controller)

If you can think of any information that might help diagnose this problem I
would be glad to help out.

"Jeremy" wrote:

> You are not alone in this...the fix temporarily is to DISABLE or put on
> MANUAL the AUTOMATIC UPDATE Services in the Services Panel. By the way,
> this is not a rare occurence either - on the contrary.
>
>
>
> "L4nd0n14n" <> wrote in message
> news:68924953-AD20-40AA-9670-...
> > Ive found that on my current install of windows when I am using Microsoft
> > update the automatic updates service has some major problems. When I am
> > using
> > my system randomly I will start getting spikes of 100% CPU and HD usage
> > for
> > no reason at all. I have determined that disabling the Automatic updates
> > service will stop the problem...but then i cant use the site. I don't even
> > see why the service is running in the first place as I have automatic
> > updates
> > disabled...anyway I changed back to the original windows update and it all
> > works fine now. I was hoping that somebody could explain what the heck the
> > problem is as I cant figure it out. (4 write operations/s shouldn't bring
> > my
> > WD Raptor 150Gb 10k RPM drive down to a crawl)
>
>
>

Also I should mention that this has been occurring for almost 2 months now on
and off. Recently it has gotten so frequent that I had to do something about
it. Only after switching back to the original windows update was I able to
get this months updates so they aren't the cause of the problem that I am
having.

"Roy Rutter" wrote:
>Installed July updates successfully on desktop PC.

I fixed my problem. Read other posts, looked at windowsupdate.log, ended with
codes 0x80200010 and 0x80246005, looked them up here, did the routine
recommended to stop auto upd, clear datastore and download folders, start
upd, clear IE cache. Tried manual scan, failed after 20m 0x8DDD0009. Did it
all again with yellow shield 'notify me' option on and after 11m scan it came
up with 4 updates, clicked download and it did them! After install and
restart, tried manual scan again, and it works now, nil results.

Could Roy or someone else please explain what is in 0x8DDD0009. I have
Googled it and searched other forums for an explanation as to what the fix is
without any resolve/success. I am unable to access Microsoft or Windows
updates, and always receive the same never ending search that ends up with
error '0x8DDD0009' ! Am also plagued with 100% CPU usage at bootup which can
run anywhere from 3 to 7 min's. after ever other program has loaded; machine
is unusable during this time which if one considers the initial program
loading then the SCVHost 100% CPU usage your looking at 10 min's. of slumber
time !!...Regards: Doug.

"Roy Rutter" wrote:

> I fixed my problem. Read other posts, looked at windowsupdate.log, ended with
> codes 0x80200010 and 0x80246005, looked them up here, did the routine
> recommended to stop auto upd, clear datastore and download folders, start
> upd, clear IE cache. Tried manual scan, failed after 20m 0x8DDD0009. Did it
> all again with yellow shield 'notify me' option on and after 11m scan it came
> up with 4 updates, clicked download and it did them! After install and
> restart, tried manual scan again, and it works now, nil results.

Hi L4nd0n14n,

Could you please tell me how to get back to the "original windows update".
I am in big trouble with this Windows Update Issue too : 100% CPU load and a
very very very slow machine.

Thanks on beforehand
Geo

"L4nd0n14n" wrote:

> Ive found that on my current install of windows when I am using Microsoft
> update the automatic updates service has some major problems. When I am using
> my system randomly I will start getting spikes of 100% CPU and HD usage for
> no reason at all. I have determined that disabling the Automatic updates
> service will stop the problem...but then i cant use the site. I don't even
> see why the service is running in the first place as I have automatic updates
> disabled...anyway I changed back to the original windows update and it all
> works fine now. I was hoping that somebody could explain what the heck the
> problem is as I cant figure it out. (4 write operations/s shouldn't bring my
> WD Raptor 150Gb 10k RPM drive down to a crawl)

"McDoogie" <> wrote in message
news:013ACC60-D21F-4555-911A-...
> Could Roy or someone else please explain what is in 0x8DDD0009. I have
> Googled it and searched other forums for an explanation as to what the fix is
> without any resolve/success.


Why didn't you search this "forum"? <eg>

http://www.microsoft.com/communities...4eb&sloc=en-us

(web interface search of this newsgroup for
0x8DDD0009
- results filtered by Answered Questions
- 1 hit
)


As for the meaning of the code itself it appears that it is not
publicly documented. You might find clues about its meaning
in its context in whatever log messages and diagnostics you
can find concerning whatever it is that you are doing to cause
this symptom. E.g. start with the windowsupdate.log

<title>How to read the Windowsupdate.log file</title>
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=902093


Good luck

Robert Aldwinckle
---


> I am unable to access Microsoft or Windows
> updates, and always receive the same never ending search that ends up with
> error '0x8DDD0009' ! Am also plagued with 100% CPU usage at bootup which can
> run anywhere from 3 to 7 min's. after ever other program has loaded; machine
> is unusable during this time which if one considers the initial program
> loading then the SCVHost 100% CPU usage your looking at 10 min's. of slumber
> time !!...Regards: Doug.
>
> "Roy Rutter" wrote:
>
>> I fixed my problem. Read other posts, looked at windowsupdate.log, ended with
>> codes 0x80200010 and 0x80246005, looked them up here, did the routine
>> recommended to stop auto upd, clear datastore and download folders, start
>> upd, clear IE cache. Tried manual scan, failed after 20m 0x8DDD0009. Did it
>> all again with yellow shield 'notify me' option on and after 11m scan it came
>> up with 4 updates, clicked download and it did them! After install and
>> restart, tried manual scan again, and it works now, nil results.