13-23 DVDs to Backup?

Running Vista Ultimate 64-bit. Although I didn't proceed
further, as I started down the route to make a backup of my
system I was told that it would take between 13 and 23 DVDs.
That seems like a lot to me, considering that the sets of
recovery disks (DVDs) that are distributed with new
computers (with Vista already installed) contain only 3 or 4
DVDs.

Can anyone confirm or refute the number required as being in
the 13-23 range? Sounds like an all-day job!

If one went the external hard drive route what size would be
adequate?

Thanks.

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promote for performance, not preferences.

use the disk clean up utility to remove old restore points and shadow copies
BEFORE you do the backup!

read this page
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...139d91033.mspx

and do what it says .. the point you need to notice is where it says:

"System Restore and Shadow Copies. Prompts you to delete all but the most
recent restore point on the disk."

you need to do the all disks and then go to the more options tab


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"CWLee" <> wrote in message
news:%...
>
> Running Vista Ultimate 64-bit. Although I didn't proceed further, as I
> started down the route to make a backup of my system I was told that it
> would take between 13 and 23 DVDs. That seems like a lot to me,
> considering that the sets of recovery disks (DVDs) that are distributed
> with new computers (with Vista already installed) contain only 3 or 4
> DVDs.
>
> Can anyone confirm or refute the number required as being in the 13-23
> range? Sounds like an all-day job!
>
> If one went the external hard drive route what size would be adequate?
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> ----------
> CWLee
> Former slayer of dragons; practice now limited to sacred
> cows. Believing we should hire for quality, not quotas, and
> promote for performance, not preferences.
>

At my home, A full pc backup that backed up two drives, one with Windows XP
on it and the other with Vista Ultimate x64 took about an hour using an
eSata external hard drive. It used 118 GBs, so just over 10% of the hard
drive space.
My Vista Ultimate x86 (32 bit) used 95GBytes, but that includes over 30
GBytes of my data files plus additional Gigabytes of installed programs like
Vistual Studio 2008.

If you are not using a dual layer DVD recorder, then you can only fit about
4.7 G Bytes whereas those recovery DVDs that come with a computer probably
use 8.5 GByte capacity disks.

"CWLee" <> wrote in message
news:#...
>
> Running Vista Ultimate 64-bit. Although I didn't proceed further, as I
> started down the route to make a backup of my system I was told that it
> would take between 13 and 23 DVDs. That seems like a lot to me,
> considering that the sets of recovery disks (DVDs) that are distributed
> with new computers (with Vista already installed) contain only 3 or 4
> DVDs.
>
> Can anyone confirm or refute the number required as being in the 13-23
> range? Sounds like an all-day job!
>
> If one went the external hard drive route what size would be adequate?
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> ----------
> CWLee
> Former slayer of dragons; practice now limited to sacred
> cows. Believing we should hire for quality, not quotas, and
> promote for performance, not preferences.
>

"whereas those recovery DVDs that come with a computer probably
use 8.5 GByte capacity disks."

I really doubt that they use 8.5 gb disks

I always keep peronal files and personal data on a seperate drive or
partition leaving only windows and programs to be backuped ( I use acronis
true image for ghosting). My personal files are backuped seperatly. Its
better this way.

Also using the disk cleanup and probably ccleaner (google these 2 keywords
filehippo ccleaner)
you can reduce the amount of space needed. For details about disk cleanup
see my other post.

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50 Ways to leave your Vista....

CHORUS:

You just format the drive , Clive
Get a New Mac , Jack
Y'don't need that crap toy, Roy
Just get yourself free
Boot from a *nix, Jix
You don't need to discuss much
Install XP, Lee
And get yourself free



"Gary Mount" <> wrote in message
news:...
> At my home, A full pc backup that backed up two drives, one with Windows
> XP on it and the other with Vista Ultimate x64 took about an hour using an
> eSata external hard drive. It used 118 GBs, so just over 10% of the hard
> drive space.
> My Vista Ultimate x86 (32 bit) used 95GBytes, but that includes over 30
> GBytes of my data files plus additional Gigabytes of installed programs
> like Vistual Studio 2008.
>
> If you are not using a dual layer DVD recorder, then you can only fit
> about 4.7 G Bytes whereas those recovery DVDs that come with a computer
> probably use 8.5 GByte capacity disks.
>
> "CWLee" <> wrote in message
> news:#...
>>
>> Running Vista Ultimate 64-bit. Although I didn't proceed further, as I
>> started down the route to make a backup of my system I was told that it
>> would take between 13 and 23 DVDs. That seems like a lot to me,
>> considering that the sets of recovery disks (DVDs) that are distributed
>> with new computers (with Vista already installed) contain only 3 or 4
>> DVDs.
>>
>> Can anyone confirm or refute the number required as being in the 13-23
>> range? Sounds like an all-day job!
>>
>> If one went the external hard drive route what size would be adequate?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> --
>> ----------
>> CWLee
>> Former slayer of dragons; practice now limited to sacred
>> cows. Believing we should hire for quality, not quotas, and
>> promote for performance, not preferences.
>>

On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 22:34:47 -0800, "CWLee"
<> wrote:

>
>Running Vista Ultimate 64-bit. Although I didn't proceed
>further, as I started down the route to make a backup of my
>system I was told that it would take between 13 and 23 DVDs.
>That seems like a lot to me, considering that the sets of
>recovery disks (DVDs) that are distributed with new
>computers (with Vista already installed) contain only 3 or 4
>DVDs.
>
>Can anyone confirm or refute the number required as being in
>the 13-23 range? Sounds like an all-day job!
>
>If one went the external hard drive route what size would be
>adequate?
>
>Thanks.


Use an external drive or tape.

tape??? With 50-100 Gb worth of vista crap-data?

Todo we are not in kansas 2008 anymore!! We are in the distant past where
they used tape! lol

Make sure you buy a truck full of tape for one backup...

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50 Ways to leave your Vista....

CHORUS:

You just format the drive , Clive
Get a New Mac , Jack
Y'don't need that crap toy, Roy
Just get yourself free
Boot from a *nix, Jix
You don't need to discuss much
Install XP, Lee
And get yourself free



"Phisherman" <> wrote in message
news:...
> On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 22:34:47 -0800, "CWLee"
> <> wrote:
>
>>
>>Running Vista Ultimate 64-bit. Although I didn't proceed
>>further, as I started down the route to make a backup of my
>>system I was told that it would take between 13 and 23 DVDs.
>>That seems like a lot to me, considering that the sets of
>>recovery disks (DVDs) that are distributed with new
>>computers (with Vista already installed) contain only 3 or 4
>>DVDs.
>>
>>Can anyone confirm or refute the number required as being in
>>the 13-23 range? Sounds like an all-day job!
>>
>>If one went the external hard drive route what size would be
>>adequate?
>>
>>Thanks.
>
>
> Use an external drive or tape.

Tape backups are not nearly as dead as you seem to think they are. It is
still the preferred backup method in the enterprise for archival storage.
Then the tapes go to Iron Mountain for safe keeping (hopefully - they will
not loose them).

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Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User


"On the Bridge!" <On@the,Bridge> wrote in message
news:47c6a6c8$...
> tape??? With 50-100 Gb worth of vista crap-data?
>
> Todo we are not in kansas 2008 anymore!! We are in the distant past where
> they used tape! lol
>
> Make sure you buy a truck full of tape for one backup...
>
> --
> What people are REALLY saying about Vista:
> http://www.microsplot.com/news/2007/..._windows_vista
>
> 50 Ways to leave your Vista....
>
> CHORUS:
>
> You just format the drive , Clive
> Get a New Mac , Jack
> Y'don't need that crap toy, Roy
> Just get yourself free
> Boot from a *nix, Jix
> You don't need to discuss much
> Install XP, Lee
> And get yourself free
>
>
>
> "Phisherman" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 22:34:47 -0800, "CWLee"
>> <> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Running Vista Ultimate 64-bit. Although I didn't proceed
>>>further, as I started down the route to make a backup of my
>>>system I was told that it would take between 13 and 23 DVDs.
>>>That seems like a lot to me, considering that the sets of
>>>recovery disks (DVDs) that are distributed with new
>>>computers (with Vista already installed) contain only 3 or 4
>>>DVDs.
>>>
>>>Can anyone confirm or refute the number required as being in
>>>the 13-23 range? Sounds like an all-day job!
>>>
>>>If one went the external hard drive route what size would be
>>>adequate?
>>>
>>>Thanks.
>>
>>
>> Use an external drive or tape.
>
>

depends on what you are backing up. The system recovery disk will restore
the pc to the original state. (with none of your personal files, programs or
info) that's why it will fit on a few disks.

If you want a full system backup, open file explorer, navigate to "My
Computer" and it will show you the hard drives you have and their capacity,
and how much room is used. You need an external drive at least that big.
The general rule of thumb is buy as big of an external drive as you can
afford.


"CWLee" <> wrote in message
news:%...
>
> Running Vista Ultimate 64-bit. Although I didn't proceed further, as I
> started down the route to make a backup of my system I was told that it
> would take between 13 and 23 DVDs. That seems like a lot to me,
> considering that the sets of recovery disks (DVDs) that are distributed
> with new computers (with Vista already installed) contain only 3 or 4
> DVDs.
>
> Can anyone confirm or refute the number required as being in the 13-23
> range? Sounds like an all-day job!
>
> If one went the external hard drive route what size would be adequate?
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> ----------
> CWLee
> Former slayer of dragons; practice now limited to sacred
> cows. Believing we should hire for quality, not quotas, and
> promote for performance, not preferences.
>

Richard Urban wrote:

> Tape backups are not nearly as dead as you seem to think they are. It is
> still the preferred backup method in the enterprise for archival storage.
> Then the tapes go to Iron Mountain for safe keeping (hopefully - they will
> not loose them).
>
Nothing worse than a "loose" tape. I've seen it. It can be awful!

Cheers.

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The "My " prefix is no longer used in Windows Vista as compared to Windows
XP.


"KDE" <> wrote in message
news:...
> depends on what you are backing up. The system recovery disk will restore
> the pc to the original state. (with none of your personal files, programs
> or info) that's why it will fit on a few disks.
>
> If you want a full system backup, open file explorer, navigate to "My
> Computer" and it will show you the hard drives you have and their
> capacity, and how much room is used. You need an external drive at least
> that big. The general rule of thumb is buy as big of an external drive as
> you can afford.
>
>
> "CWLee" <> wrote in message
> news:%...
>>
>> Running Vista Ultimate 64-bit. Although I didn't proceed further, as I
>> started down the route to make a backup of my system I was told that it
>> would take between 13 and 23 DVDs. That seems like a lot to me,
>> considering that the sets of recovery disks (DVDs) that are distributed
>> with new computers (with Vista already installed) contain only 3 or 4
>> DVDs.
>>
>> Can anyone confirm or refute the number required as being in the 13-23
>> range? Sounds like an all-day job!
>>
>> If one went the external hard drive route what size would be adequate?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> --
>> ----------
>> CWLee
>> Former slayer of dragons; practice now limited to sacred
>> cows. Believing we should hire for quality, not quotas, and
>> promote for performance, not preferences.
>>
>
>