1st server in an SBS premium environment...

In article <>,
says...
> Another really tricky thing will be planning the migration to sbs 2008.
> Since we already have an SBS 2000 environment, we can not set the SBS 2008
> machine up on the same network - so will have to configure it on a differnet
> subnet to avoid issues. I'll spend some time working with it and getting
> familiar with it then one weekend we'll migrate everything over and go from
> there... Going from Exchange 2000 to 2007 should be a fun job!!!! Does your
> book cover anything like that???? LOL! We aren't moving to SQL 2008 right
> away though - that will come once we have the money and can purchase the
> second server.
>

SWING MIGRATION - search this thread for it - you install a TEMP DC and
then move to a test network and build everything without having to take
down the old network.

--
You can't trust your best friends, your five senses, only the little
voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that.
Trust yourself.
(remove 999 for proper email address)

Book is:
http://www.amazon.com/Windows%C2%AE-...9742006&sr=8-2

Migration from SBS 2k3 is covered, and a whole lot of other preparation
stuff you'll need. But there are updated migration docs as well that you've
already got a pointer to.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/blogs/russel




"Brad Pears" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Another really tricky thing will be planning the migration to sbs 2008.
> Since we already have an SBS 2000 environment, we can not set the SBS 2008
> machine up on the same network - so will have to configure it on a
> differnet subnet to avoid issues. I'll spend some time working with it and
> getting familiar with it then one weekend we'll migrate everything over
> and go from there... Going from Exchange 2000 to 2007 should be a fun
> job!!!! Does your book cover anything like that???? LOL! We aren't moving
> to SQL 2008 right away though - that will come once we have the money and
> can purchase the second server.
>
> PS... One more quick question... Outlook 2002 will work with Exchange 2007
> correct?
>
> Brad
>
>
> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> The big advantage to using dual CPUs, regardless of core count, is RAM
>> support. More CPUs == higher max RAM, in general. Not a huge issue
>> initially, but could be later. Also, since in another thread you're
>> talking about virtualizing, understand that you can NOT use the main SBS
>> server as a virtualization host.
>>
>> I don't make a habit of pushing my book, but from the messages I'm seeing
>> here in the last couple of days, I think you would definitely benefit
>> from a good book on SBS 2008. IMHO, there are two good ones out there -
>> mine and Eriq Neale's. Either (or both) would be a definite benefit to
>> your understanding and preparation for moving to SBS.
>>
>> --
>> Charlie.
>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/russel
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Brad Pears" <> wrote in message
>> news:%...
>>> Would you recommend dual processors (as opposed to a single dual core
>>> processor) in the primary server at all? I am thinking no - but quite
>>> possibly for the second "virtualized" server it might be beneficial...
>>>
>>> Brad
>>> "Leythos" <> wrote in message
>>> news: om...
>>>> In article <>,
>>>> says...
>>>>> My question is this, we currently have a fairly new Dell Poweredge
>>>>> 2800
>>>>> server with two mirrored 75gb drives. The server has 2gb ram (4x512)
>>>>> and
>>>>> dual Xeon 3ghz processors with 2mb L2 cache.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Get a Dell 410 series server, they are cheap and you can load them with
>>>> drives and RAM.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> You can't trust your best friends, your five senses, only the little
>>>> voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that.
>>>> Trust yourself.
>>>> (remove 999 for proper email address)
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

Hey Charlie, I also noticed on the Amazon link you included that there are
three books for $98 listed in the "frequently bought together" section. Are
the other two books listed there worhtwhile as well or can I just stick with
your book?

The other two listed are "Windows Small Business Server 2008 Unleashed" by
Eriq Oliver Neale and "Windows Small Business Server 2008 Administrators
Pocket Consultant" by Craig Zacker.

I suspect the latter book would be similiar to yours?

Thanks, Brad

"Charlie Russel - MVP" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Book is:
> http://www.amazon.com/Windows%C2%AE-...9742006&sr=8-2
>
> Migration from SBS 2k3 is covered, and a whole lot of other preparation
> stuff you'll need. But there are updated migration docs as well that
> you've already got a pointer to.
>
> --
> Charlie.
> http://msmvps.com/blogs/russel
>
>
>
>
> "Brad Pears" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Another really tricky thing will be planning the migration to sbs 2008.
>> Since we already have an SBS 2000 environment, we can not set the SBS
>> 2008 machine up on the same network - so will have to configure it on a
>> differnet subnet to avoid issues. I'll spend some time working with it
>> and getting familiar with it then one weekend we'll migrate everything
>> over and go from there... Going from Exchange 2000 to 2007 should be a
>> fun job!!!! Does your book cover anything like that???? LOL! We aren't
>> moving to SQL 2008 right away though - that will come once we have the
>> money and can purchase the second server.
>>
>> PS... One more quick question... Outlook 2002 will work with Exchange
>> 2007 correct?
>>
>> Brad
>>
>>
>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>> The big advantage to using dual CPUs, regardless of core count, is RAM
>>> support. More CPUs == higher max RAM, in general. Not a huge issue
>>> initially, but could be later. Also, since in another thread you're
>>> talking about virtualizing, understand that you can NOT use the main SBS
>>> server as a virtualization host.
>>>
>>> I don't make a habit of pushing my book, but from the messages I'm
>>> seeing here in the last couple of days, I think you would definitely
>>> benefit from a good book on SBS 2008. IMHO, there are two good ones out
>>> there - mine and Eriq Neale's. Either (or both) would be a definite
>>> benefit to your understanding and preparation for moving to SBS.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Charlie.
>>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/russel
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Brad Pears" <> wrote in message
>>> news:%...
>>>> Would you recommend dual processors (as opposed to a single dual core
>>>> processor) in the primary server at all? I am thinking no - but quite
>>>> possibly for the second "virtualized" server it might be beneficial...
>>>>
>>>> Brad
>>>> "Leythos" <> wrote in message
>>>> news: om...
>>>>> In article <>,
>>>>> says...
>>>>>> My question is this, we currently have a fairly new Dell Poweredge
>>>>>> 2800
>>>>>> server with two mirrored 75gb drives. The server has 2gb ram (4x512)
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> dual Xeon 3ghz processors with 2mb L2 cache.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Get a Dell 410 series server, they are cheap and you can load them
>>>>> with
>>>>> drives and RAM.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> You can't trust your best friends, your five senses, only the little
>>>>> voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to
>>>>> that.
>>>>> Trust yourself.
>>>>> (remove 999 for proper email address)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

Eriq's is a good book. Haven't seen Craig's but it's probably fine. However,
it's a much different book. Pocket consultant books are smaller. Tend to be
very concise. They need to fit in your pocket, after all. Not a lot of
detail or explanation.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/blogs/russel




"Brad Pears" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Hey Charlie, I also noticed on the Amazon link you included that there are
> three books for $98 listed in the "frequently bought together" section.
> Are the other two books listed there worhtwhile as well or can I just
> stick with your book?
>
> The other two listed are "Windows Small Business Server 2008 Unleashed" by
> Eriq Oliver Neale and "Windows Small Business Server 2008 Administrators
> Pocket Consultant" by Craig Zacker.
>
> I suspect the latter book would be similiar to yours?
>
> Thanks, Brad
>
> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Book is:
>> http://www.amazon.com/Windows%C2%AE-...9742006&sr=8-2
>>
>> Migration from SBS 2k3 is covered, and a whole lot of other preparation
>> stuff you'll need. But there are updated migration docs as well that
>> you've already got a pointer to.
>>
>> --
>> Charlie.
>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/russel
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Brad Pears" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>> Another really tricky thing will be planning the migration to sbs 2008.
>>> Since we already have an SBS 2000 environment, we can not set the SBS
>>> 2008 machine up on the same network - so will have to configure it on a
>>> differnet subnet to avoid issues. I'll spend some time working with it
>>> and getting familiar with it then one weekend we'll migrate everything
>>> over and go from there... Going from Exchange 2000 to 2007 should be a
>>> fun job!!!! Does your book cover anything like that???? LOL! We aren't
>>> moving to SQL 2008 right away though - that will come once we have the
>>> money and can purchase the second server.
>>>
>>> PS... One more quick question... Outlook 2002 will work with Exchange
>>> 2007 correct?
>>>
>>> Brad
>>>
>>>
>>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <> wrote in
>>> message news:...
>>>> The big advantage to using dual CPUs, regardless of core count, is RAM
>>>> support. More CPUs == higher max RAM, in general. Not a huge issue
>>>> initially, but could be later. Also, since in another thread you're
>>>> talking about virtualizing, understand that you can NOT use the main
>>>> SBS server as a virtualization host.
>>>>
>>>> I don't make a habit of pushing my book, but from the messages I'm
>>>> seeing here in the last couple of days, I think you would definitely
>>>> benefit from a good book on SBS 2008. IMHO, there are two good ones out
>>>> there - mine and Eriq Neale's. Either (or both) would be a definite
>>>> benefit to your understanding and preparation for moving to SBS.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Charlie.
>>>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/russel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Brad Pears" <> wrote in message
>>>> news:%...
>>>>> Would you recommend dual processors (as opposed to a single dual core
>>>>> processor) in the primary server at all? I am thinking no - but quite
>>>>> possibly for the second "virtualized" server it might be beneficial...
>>>>>
>>>>> Brad
>>>>> "Leythos" <> wrote in message
>>>>> news: om...
>>>>>> In article <>,
>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>> My question is this, we currently have a fairly new Dell Poweredge
>>>>>>> 2800
>>>>>>> server with two mirrored 75gb drives. The server has 2gb ram (4x512)
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> dual Xeon 3ghz processors with 2mb L2 cache.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Get a Dell 410 series server, they are cheap and you can load them
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> drives and RAM.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> You can't trust your best friends, your five senses, only the little
>>>>>> voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to
>>>>>> that.
>>>>>> Trust yourself.
>>>>>> (remove 999 for proper email address)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

great - thanks...

I am still awaiting approval on my proposal to move to SBS 2008 - as soon as
I get it (which I hopefully will) than I will get your book..

"Charlie Russel - MVP" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Eriq's is a good book. Haven't seen Craig's but it's probably fine.
> However, it's a much different book. Pocket consultant books are smaller.
> Tend to be very concise. They need to fit in your pocket, after all. Not a
> lot of detail or explanation.
>
> --
> Charlie.
> http://msmvps.com/blogs/russel
>
>
>
>
> "Brad Pears" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Hey Charlie, I also noticed on the Amazon link you included that there
>> are three books for $98 listed in the "frequently bought together"
>> section. Are the other two books listed there worhtwhile as well or can I
>> just stick with your book?
>>
>> The other two listed are "Windows Small Business Server 2008 Unleashed"
>> by Eriq Oliver Neale and "Windows Small Business Server 2008
>> Administrators Pocket Consultant" by Craig Zacker.
>>
>> I suspect the latter book would be similiar to yours?
>>
>> Thanks, Brad
>>
>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>> Book is:
>>> http://www.amazon.com/Windows%C2%AE-...9742006&sr=8-2
>>>
>>> Migration from SBS 2k3 is covered, and a whole lot of other preparation
>>> stuff you'll need. But there are updated migration docs as well that
>>> you've already got a pointer to.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Charlie.
>>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/russel
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Brad Pears" <> wrote in message
>>> news:...
>>>> Another really tricky thing will be planning the migration to sbs 2008.
>>>> Since we already have an SBS 2000 environment, we can not set the SBS
>>>> 2008 machine up on the same network - so will have to configure it on a
>>>> differnet subnet to avoid issues. I'll spend some time working with it
>>>> and getting familiar with it then one weekend we'll migrate everything
>>>> over and go from there... Going from Exchange 2000 to 2007 should be a
>>>> fun job!!!! Does your book cover anything like that???? LOL! We aren't
>>>> moving to SQL 2008 right away though - that will come once we have the
>>>> money and can purchase the second server.
>>>>
>>>> PS... One more quick question... Outlook 2002 will work with Exchange
>>>> 2007 correct?
>>>>
>>>> Brad
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <> wrote in
>>>> message news:...
>>>>> The big advantage to using dual CPUs, regardless of core count, is RAM
>>>>> support. More CPUs == higher max RAM, in general. Not a huge issue
>>>>> initially, but could be later. Also, since in another thread you're
>>>>> talking about virtualizing, understand that you can NOT use the main
>>>>> SBS server as a virtualization host.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't make a habit of pushing my book, but from the messages I'm
>>>>> seeing here in the last couple of days, I think you would definitely
>>>>> benefit from a good book on SBS 2008. IMHO, there are two good ones
>>>>> out there - mine and Eriq Neale's. Either (or both) would be a
>>>>> definite benefit to your understanding and preparation for moving to
>>>>> SBS.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Charlie.
>>>>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/russel
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Brad Pears" <> wrote in message
>>>>> news:%...
>>>>>> Would you recommend dual processors (as opposed to a single dual core
>>>>>> processor) in the primary server at all? I am thinking no - but quite
>>>>>> possibly for the second "virtualized" server it might be
>>>>>> beneficial...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Brad
>>>>>> "Leythos" <> wrote in message
>>>>>> news: om...
>>>>>>> In article <>,
>>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>> My question is this, we currently have a fairly new Dell Poweredge
>>>>>>>> 2800
>>>>>>>> server with two mirrored 75gb drives. The server has 2gb ram
>>>>>>>> (4x512) and
>>>>>>>> dual Xeon 3ghz processors with 2mb L2 cache.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Get a Dell 410 series server, they are cheap and you can load them
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> drives and RAM.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> You can't trust your best friends, your five senses, only the little
>>>>>>> voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to
>>>>>>> that.
>>>>>>> Trust yourself.
>>>>>>> (remove 999 for proper email address)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>