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2 problems after SYSPREP vista and I am stumped

 
 
dbouton@fuse.net
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      08-16-2007
I'm still trying to get my imaging going smoothly after sysprep. This
time I did a simple install of Vista and ran sysprep general audit
mode. I imaged with ghost to like machines. They now are all
experiencing the same 2 problems.

1.) When I add the machine back on the domain every time the system
boots up it says it cannot login in invalid password. Then you say ok
and it defaults to Administrator of the local machine and you can
retype the password. I have to click Switch User and select Other
User to get prompted to log in to the domain which I want it to
default to. I have seen this discussed but nothing I have tried
works. Any ideas?

2.) Every time any user logs on the machine sysprep starts
automatically and you have to click cancel. Not good for our users to
see. I have also seen this discussed but no luck here either. I
looked around in msconfig and the registry HKLM\Software\Microsoft
\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run. No luck. Any ideas on this one?

Thanks in advance for any help.
Dawn

 
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Darrell Gorter[MSFT]
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      08-17-2007
Hello,
For number one you want to use the /oobe switch rather than the /audit
switch.
For number two, this may depend on how you are calling setup.
Are you running it from the cmd line?
Do you have an entry in the unattended file that calls it?
Have you removed it from the run line?
Thanks,
Darrell Gorter[MSFT]

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights
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|> From:
|> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general
|> Subject: 2 problems after SYSPREP vista and I am stumped
|> Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 04:55:34 -0700
|> Organization: http://groups.google.com
|> Lines: 22
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11:55:34 GMT)
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|> User-Agent: G2/1.0
|> X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1;
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microsoft.public.windows.vista.general:154374
|> X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general
|>
|> I'm still trying to get my imaging going smoothly after sysprep. This
|> time I did a simple install of Vista and ran sysprep general audit
|> mode. I imaged with ghost to like machines. They now are all
|> experiencing the same 2 problems.
|>
|> 1.) When I add the machine back on the domain every time the system
|> boots up it says it cannot login in invalid password. Then you say ok
|> and it defaults to Administrator of the local machine and you can
|> retype the password. I have to click Switch User and select Other
|> User to get prompted to log in to the domain which I want it to
|> default to. I have seen this discussed but nothing I have tried
|> works. Any ideas?
|>
|> 2.) Every time any user logs on the machine sysprep starts
|> automatically and you have to click cancel. Not good for our users to
|> see. I have also seen this discussed but no luck here either. I
|> looked around in msconfig and the registry HKLM\Software\Microsoft
|> \Windows\CurrentVersion\Run. No luck. Any ideas on this one?
|>
|> Thanks in advance for any help.
|> Dawn
|>
|>

 
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dbouton@fuse.net
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      08-17-2007
I am still trying to figure out the difference between Audit Mode and
OOBE. I have several people telling me Audit and several telling me
OOBE. I do not use an unattended answer file. We have volume
licensing and in XP it was simple. Create one pc with everything,
remove from domain, create image and dump to all the others and add
back on domain renaming first.

As far as setup goes I'm not calling it at all at least on purpose.
My expectations were to run sysprep with generalize in audit mode.
Then I was hoping it would come up, I would rename it and add it back
on the domain. No luck. The first thing that happens is it says bad
password (trying to automatically log on as local admin) Then I retype
the password and it logs in and sysprep starts. I tried some
troubleshooting and renamed sysprep and after logging in the system
error and rebooted. I also tried safe mode and sysprep started.
After adding to the domain every administrative user who logs on
starts sysprep. Also after adding to the domain the local admin
continues to try and log in. To get on the domain you must switch
users and select other users.

I've restarted fresh and same problem so starting fresh again makes me
think I will continue with this proble. I also created an image
before syspreping and loaded it on 15 machines. We then ran sysprep
after and 8 had the problem mentioned about and 7 worked as expected.

Any ideas?

Dawn

On Aug 16, 9:27 pm, Darre...@online.microsoft.com ("Darrell
Gorter[MSFT]") wrote:
> Hello,
> For number one you want to use the /oobe switch rather than the /audit
> switch.
> For number two, this may depend on how you are calling setup.
> Are you running it from the cmd line?
> Do you have an entry in the unattended file that calls it?
> Have you removed it from the run line?
> Thanks,
> Darrell Gorter[MSFT]
>
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights
> --------------------
> |> From: dbou...@fuse.net
> |> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general
> |> Subject: 2 problems after SYSPREP vista and I am stumped
> |> Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 04:55:34 -0700
> |> Organization:http://groups.google.com
> |> Lines: 22
> |> Message-ID: <1187265334.290733.67...@z24g2000prh.googlegroups. com>
> |> NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.10.217.82
> |> Mime-Version: 1.0
> |> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> |> X-Trace: posting.google.com 1187265334 1305 127.0.0.1 (16 Aug 2007
> 11:55:34 GMT)
> |> X-Complaints-To: groups-ab...@google.com
> |> NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 11:55:34 +0000 (UTC)
> |> User-Agent: G2/1.0
> |> X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1;
> .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; InfoPath.2; .NET CLR
> 3.0.04506.30),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
> |> X-HTTP-Via: 1.1 PROXY3
> |> Complaints-To: groups-ab...@google.com
> |> Injection-Info: z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com; posting-host=204.10.217.82;
> |> posting-account=ps2QrAMAAAA6_jCuRt2JEIpn5Otqf_w0
> |> Path:
> TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSF TFEEDS01.phx.gbl!news-out*.
> cwix.com!newsfeed.cwix.com!newscon02.news.prodigy. net!prodigy.net!news.glor*b
> .com!postnews.google.com!z24g2000prh.googlegroups. com!not-for-mail
> |> Xref: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl
> microsoft.public.windows.vista.general:154374
> |> X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general
> |>
> |> I'm still trying to get my imaging going smoothly after sysprep. This
> |> time I did a simple install of Vista and ran sysprep general audit
> |> mode. I imaged with ghost to like machines. They now are all
> |> experiencing the same 2 problems.
> |>
> |> 1.) When I add the machine back on the domain every time the system
> |> boots up it says it cannot login in invalid password. Then you say ok
> |> and it defaults to Administrator of the local machine and you can
> |> retype the password. I have to click Switch User and select Other
> |> User to get prompted to log in to the domain which I want it to
> |> default to. I have seen this discussed but nothing I have tried
> |> works. Any ideas?
> |>
> |> 2.) Every time any user logs on the machine sysprep starts
> |> automatically and you have to click cancel. Not good for our users to
> |> see. I have also seen this discussed but no luck here either. I
> |> looked around in msconfig and the registry HKLM\Software\Microsoft
> |> \Windows\CurrentVersion\Run. No luck. Any ideas on this one?
> |>
> |> Thanks in advance for any help.
> |> Dawn
> |>
> |>



 
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Darrell Gorter[MSFT]
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      08-17-2007
Hello Dawn,
Use OOBE if your end users are going to be getting the machines.
Audit is used when building the image prior to sending it out to your
end-users.
Once you are done with audit mode, you would run sysprep with OOBE prior to
sending out to your users.
In Audit you are logging in as the default administrator to install items
like drivers, this is more for image creation prep work, not for uniqueness.
In OOBE you would be generating user-specific items, when that user logs
on, inlcuding running Windows Welcome, which will prompt for machine name
as well.
Thanks,
Darrell Gorter[MSFT]

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights
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|> From:
|> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general
|> Subject: Re: 2 problems after SYSPREP vista and I am stumped
|> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 08:26:45 -0700
|> Organization: http://groups.google.com
|> Lines: 101
|> Message-ID: < .com>
|> References: <. com>
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|> X-HTTP-Via: 1.1 PROXY3
|> Complaints-To: groups-
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|> posting-account=ps2QrAMAAAA6_jCuRt2JEIpn5Otqf_w0
|> Path:
TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSF TFEEDS02.phx.gbl!newsfeed0
0.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!news.glorb.com!postnews.google.com!l22g2 000prc
..googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
|> Xref: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl
microsoft.public.windows.vista.general:154990
|> X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general
|>
|> I am still trying to figure out the difference between Audit Mode and
|> OOBE. I have several people telling me Audit and several telling me
|> OOBE. I do not use an unattended answer file. We have volume
|> licensing and in XP it was simple. Create one pc with everything,
|> remove from domain, create image and dump to all the others and add
|> back on domain renaming first.
|> As far as setup goes I'm not calling it at all at least on purpose.
|> My expectations were to run sysprep with generalize in audit mode.
|> Then I was hoping it would come up, I would rename it and add it back
|> on the domain. No luck. The first thing that happens is it says bad
|> password (trying to automatically log on as local admin) Then I retype
|> the password and it logs in and sysprep starts. I tried some
|> troubleshooting and renamed sysprep and after logging in the system
|> error and rebooted. I also tried safe mode and sysprep started.
|> After adding to the domain every administrative user who logs on
|> starts sysprep. Also after adding to the domain the local admin
|> continues to try and log in. To get on the domain you must switch
|> users and select other users.
|> I've restarted fresh and same problem so starting fresh again makes me
|> think I will continue with this proble. I also created an image
|> before syspreping and loaded it on 15 machines. We then ran sysprep
|> after and 8 had the problem mentioned about and 7 worked as expected.
|> Any ideas?
|> Dawn
|> On Aug 16, 9:27 pm, Darre...@online.microsoft.com ("Darrell
|> Gorter[MSFT]") wrote:
|> > Hello,
|> > For number one you want to use the /oobe switch rather than the /audit
|> > switch.
|> > For number two, this may depend on how you are calling setup.
|> > Are you running it from the cmd line?
|> > Do you have an entry in the unattended file that calls it?
|> > Have you removed it from the run line?
|> > Thanks,
|> > Darrell Gorter[MSFT]
|> >
|> > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights
|> > --------------------
|> > |> From: dbou...@fuse.net
|> > |> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.vista.general
|> > |> Subject: 2 problems after SYSPREP vista and I am stumped
|> > |> Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 04:55:34 -0700
|> > |> Organization:http://groups.google.com
|> > |> Lines: 22
|> > |> Message-ID: <1187265334.290733.67...@z24g2000prh.googlegroups. com>
|> > |> NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.10.217.82
|> > |> Mime-Version: 1.0
|> > |> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
|> > |> X-Trace: posting.google.com 1187265334 1305 127.0.0.1 (16 Aug 2007
|> > 11:55:34 GMT)
|> > |> X-Complaints-To: groups-ab...@google.com
|> > |> NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 11:55:34 +0000 (UTC)
|> > |> User-Agent: G2/1.0
|> > |> X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1;
|> > .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; InfoPath.2; .NET CLR
|> > 3.0.04506.30),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)
|> > |> X-HTTP-Via: 1.1 PROXY3
|> > |> Complaints-To: groups-ab...@google.com
|> > |> Injection-Info: z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com;
posting-host=204.10.217.82;
|> > |> posting-account=ps2QrAMAAAA6_jCuRt2JEIpn5Otqf_w0
|> > |> Path:
|> >
TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSF TFEEDS01.phx.gbl!news-out*
 
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Joe Morris
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      08-18-2007
"Darrell Gorter[MSFT]" <> wrote:

> Use OOBE if your end users are going to be getting the machines.
> Audit is used when building the image prior to sending it out to your
> end-users.
> Once you are done with audit mode, you would run sysprep with OOBE prior
> to
> sending out to your users.
> In Audit you are logging in as the default administrator to install items
> like drivers, this is more for image creation prep work, not for
> uniqueness.
> In OOBE you would be generating user-specific items, when that user logs
> on, inlcuding running Windows Welcome, which will prompt for machine name
> as well.


If I may break into this Q&A I've got a related Sysprep question that's
related to the one the OP was asking:

What is the unique function of "audit" mode?

Putting it another way, is there any reason to use the audit stage in a VLA
customer environment using BTP (build-to-plan), as opposed to building the
system from original MS media, installing the common applications and
drivers, and then creating the distribution image by running sysprep /oobe ?

The above seems to be the appropriate way to create a build in an
environment which distributes a one-size-fits-all master image. My shop has
used this path for W2K and XP, but with so much changed in Vista it would be
nice to be confident that we're not overlooking some new function that makes
the use of audit mode necessary.

If I'm interpreting the guidance properly, a BTP shop would have no need for
audit mode, but a BTO (build-to-order) shop (for example, an OEM such as
Dell, or a VLA customer that has optional configuration choices for the
machines it uses) could use sysprep /audit to create a second-generation
master image from which the individual configuration options are
created...but what is the advantage of going through sysprep /audit and then
a new mini-setup, compared to running the master build under VMWare and
taking a snapshot immediately after the initial build completes?


Joe Morris


 
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