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RobClark
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      03-17-2010
Server ran out of space on c drive where Active Directory resides along with
DNS zones. The Active Directory integrated zone is broken and has nothing in
it when viewed with notepad. This is the only domain controller, there is no
backup for this server (long story). This server is also running Exchange.
Exchange is still working somehow. There are two zone files that are working.
The one for the email domain that I set up is one of them and is probably why
Exchange is still working. I can't ping computer by name on the network. The
Active Directory zone file will not load. Is there a way to reinitialize the
zone file so that it pulls its information from Active Directory and starts
anew?
 
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Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]
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      03-18-2010

Hello RobClark,

How are you able to look into it with notepad? AD integrated zones are stored
in the AD databse file ntds.dit. This one you cannot edit with notepad.

Please describe in detail what the starting problem was and describe what
you have done step by step.

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> Server ran out of space on c drive where Active Directory resides
> along with DNS zones. The Active Directory integrated zone is broken
> and has nothing in it when viewed with notepad. This is the only
> domain controller, there is no backup for this server (long story).
> This server is also running Exchange. Exchange is still working
> somehow. There are two zone files that are working. The one for the
> email domain that I set up is one of them and is probably why Exchange
> is still working. I can't ping computer by name on the network. The
> Active Directory zone file will not load. Is there a way to
> reinitialize the zone file so that it pulls its information from
> Active Directory and starts anew?
>



 
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Ace Fekay [MVP-DS, MCT]
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      03-18-2010
"RobClark" <> wrote in message news:3FAF07AF-C890-4837-9968-...
> Server ran out of space on c drive where Active Directory resides along with
> DNS zones. The Active Directory integrated zone is broken and has nothing in
> it when viewed with notepad. This is the only domain controller, there is no
> backup for this server (long story). This server is also running Exchange.
> Exchange is still working somehow. There are two zone files that are working.
> The one for the email domain that I set up is one of them and is probably why
> Exchange is still working. I can't ping computer by name on the network. The
> Active Directory zone file will not load. Is there a way to reinitialize the
> zone file so that it pulls its information from Active Directory and starts
> anew?



Are you seeing EventID# 5153, Source Name = "WAS" (Windows Process Activation Service), or is it EventID# 5513, Source = "Netlogon"?

EventID 5153 WAS, appears to be an IIS issue that could have happened if the machine has been joined and promoted to be a Domain Controller in a legacy domain (with pre-2003 AD).
http://eventid.net/display.asp?event...ce=WAS&phase=1

However, from your description, it sounds more like a 5513. This leans towards a SID issue.
http://eventid.net/display.asp?event...TLOGON&phase=1

Whatever error it is, AD must be up and running in order to load an AD integrated zone. Why? Because it is buried in the AD database, and AD has to be running to pull it. You can manually pull it with an ADSI script, if you need it, however, I haven't ever tried it, but I believe AD has to be running to run the script.

I can't see how Exchange is running, since it is reliant on AD. Exchange relies on AD, and AD relies on DNS, specifically the zone for AD, not any other zone.The AD zone is how Exchange "finds" the AD domain. It has nothing to do with any other zone.

Therefore, I am not sure what you mean by a zone file for the "email domain." Does that mean you are hosting your external public zone for the internet? The external zone that hosts your MX record is only for everyone else in the world to "find" your mail server when they want to send you an email. It has nothing to do with AD.

Please elaborate what you are referring to regarding that other zone name.


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      03-18-2010
"Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" <meiweb@(nospam)gmx.de> wrote in message news:. com...
> Hello RobClark,
>
> How are you able to look into it with notepad? AD integrated zones are stored
> in the AD databse file ntds.dit. This one you cannot edit with notepad.
>
> Please describe in detail what the starting problem was and describe what
> you have done step by step.
>
> Best regards
>
> Meinolf Weber
> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
> no rights.
> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>
>



I saw that, too, about notepad. Good question. I am curious what file he is referring to, since there is no possible way to do that with an AD integrated zone.

Ace
 
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