3 minutes to load XP-mode

On a new Windows 7 64bit machine, with E9650, having 8GB ram installed.
XP-mode takes 3 minutes to load. Is this normal ?.
Or what could otherwise be the reason for this long loading time.
I have trouble with pinging a modem. I'll have to shot down the
modem and seek new IP. Compleatly switching off the lan connection
setting doesn't reduce the time taken for the next XP-loading.
Does other virtual machines load faster, VirtualBox or VMware ?.
Thanks for an answer.
/senn

How much RAM do you have allocated to XP Mode? The larger the amount
the longer it takes to unhibernate...

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Bob Comer


On Mon, 1 Feb 2010 15:53:43 +0100, "senn" <senn@homeplace&.fix> wrote:

>On a new Windows 7 64bit machine, with E9650, having 8GB ram installed.
>XP-mode takes 3 minutes to load. Is this normal ?.
>Or what could otherwise be the reason for this long loading time.
>I have trouble with pinging a modem. I'll have to shot down the
>modem and seek new IP. Compleatly switching off the lan connection
>setting doesn't reduce the time taken for the next XP-loading.
>Does other virtual machines load faster, VirtualBox or VMware ?.
>Thanks for an answer.
>/senn
>

"Robert Comer" <bobcomer-removeme-@mindspring.com> skrev i meddelelsen
news:...
> How much RAM do you have allocated to XP Mode? The larger the amount
> the longer it takes to unhibernate...
>
> --
> Bob Comer
>
>
> On Mon, 1 Feb 2010 15:53:43 +0100, "senn" <senn@homeplace&.fix> wrote:
>
>>On a new Windows 7 64bit machine, with E9650, having 8GB ram installed.
>>XP-mode takes 3 minutes to load. Is this normal ?.
>>Or what could otherwise be the reason for this long loading time.
>>I have trouble with pinging a modem. I'll have to shot down the
>>modem and seek new IP. Compleatly switching off the lan connection
>>setting doesn't reduce the time taken for the next XP-loading.
>>Does other virtual machines load faster, VirtualBox or VMware ?.
>>Thanks for an answer.
>>/senn
>>

I gave it 1024MB (no point forgotten - 1.024GB)
This is much more than the default.
The XP-mode tells me I have 3712MB (3.712GB) accessable
The VT in bios is of course set active. Autocad 14 runs pretty
well indeed. Rendering a 3D is fast and 3D rotation too. Using
a EAH5850 graphics card.
But the long loading time or starting of the vertual machine itself
is not acceptable.
I have 4 lans on this motherboard "Asus P5Q Premium". The
vertual machine has been given its own lan-cable on a secand of
one of these lans. But as I said, I switched them all off. Had no
influence on the long loading time.
Any other idea ?.
What loading time can be considered normal and acceptable ?.
/senn

But the VPC uses its own graphics card - doesn't it ?

>What loading time can be considered normal and acceptable ?.

I'd say 3 minutes is too long for only 1024MB of RAM, mine starts up
in just less than a minute with 1024M of RAM and my machine is not
near the specs of yours. Something is slowing you down but I don't
know what. How long does it take to start up the VM if you shut down
the VM first, rather than just closing it? (closing it hibernates it.)

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Bob Comer



On Mon, 1 Feb 2010 18:00:44 +0100, "senn" <senn@homeplace&.fix> wrote:

>
>"Robert Comer" <bobcomer-removeme-@mindspring.com> skrev i meddelelsen
>news:.. .
>> How much RAM do you have allocated to XP Mode? The larger the amount
>> the longer it takes to unhibernate...
>>
>> --
>> Bob Comer
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 1 Feb 2010 15:53:43 +0100, "senn" <senn@homeplace&.fix> wrote:
>>
>>>On a new Windows 7 64bit machine, with E9650, having 8GB ram installed.
>>>XP-mode takes 3 minutes to load. Is this normal ?.
>>>Or what could otherwise be the reason for this long loading time.
>>>I have trouble with pinging a modem. I'll have to shot down the
>>>modem and seek new IP. Compleatly switching off the lan connection
>>>setting doesn't reduce the time taken for the next XP-loading.
>>>Does other virtual machines load faster, VirtualBox or VMware ?.
>>>Thanks for an answer.
>>>/senn
>>>
>
>I gave it 1024MB (no point forgotten - 1.024GB)
>This is much more than the default.
>The XP-mode tells me I have 3712MB (3.712GB) accessable
>The VT in bios is of course set active. Autocad 14 runs pretty
>well indeed. Rendering a 3D is fast and 3D rotation too. Using
>a EAH5850 graphics card.
>But the long loading time or starting of the vertual machine itself
>is not acceptable.
>I have 4 lans on this motherboard "Asus P5Q Premium". The
>vertual machine has been given its own lan-cable on a secand of
>one of these lans. But as I said, I switched them all off. Had no
>influence on the long loading time.
>Any other idea ?.
>What loading time can be considered normal and acceptable ?.
>/senn

It emulates its own video card, yes. It's an S3 Trio. That shouldn't
be effecting your start up times...

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Bob Comer


On Mon, 1 Feb 2010 18:28:10 +0100, "senn" <senn@homeplace&.fix> wrote:

>But the VPC uses its own graphics card - doesn't it ?

"Robert Comer" <bobcomer-removeme-@mindspring.com> skrev i meddelelsen
news...
> >What loading time can be considered normal and acceptable ?.
>
> I'd say 3 minutes is too long for only 1024MB of RAM, mine starts up
> in just less than a minute with 1024M of RAM and my machine is not
> near the specs of yours. Something is slowing you down but I don't
> know what. How long does it take to start up the VM if you shut down
> the VM first, rather than just closing it? (closing it hibernates it.)
>
> --
> Bob Comer
>

When it is hibernated the start up is about a minute.
I tried raising ram to 3GB. No noticeable reduction in load time.
If it had, it would almost be necessary to fully shut down to
release all this ram for w7 use, even I have 8gig. The total ram
usage were over 4G. But I'm closer now to an understanding.
It seems to be the socalled IC that mainly is responsible for
this slow start. Having the IC off the loading is about the half.
Fortunately I do expect using this IC not very often, as I require
32bit color and be able to set the font-size.

I'll proceed getting some more experience with it. Am thinking
just now it'll be unwise moving applications over and scrapping
the old XP. I still wonder, if the others are faster in loading
VirtualBox, VMware.
/senn

>I wonder; could the machine even start up if the virtualization
>in the bios didn't work right.

Not really, it doesn't work that way. If there was something wrong
with the VT implementation you'd most likely get crashes or it would
work at all. I don't think there's any way slower would be an effect
and it's only on startup of the VM that you see it.

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Bob Comer


On Wed, 3 Feb 2010 07:03:13 +0100, "senn" <senn@homeplace&.fix> wrote:

>
> "Tom Mason" <> skrev i meddelelsen news:%...
> Senn,
>
> It's a Windows VPC, running on a 64-bit Windows 7 Ultimate OS. All Integration Features are on, and it has to mount 5 DFS shares while starting up.
>
> Tom
>
>OK, thanks, Tom
>
>Realizes something wrong with my machines integration
>of this XP-mode. The strange thing is that the Autocad runs
>fine. I wonder; could the machine even start up if the virtualization
>in the bios didn't work right. I use a new motherboard. The bios often
>needs an upgrading on new boards, as far as I know.
>/senn
>
>
>
> "senn" <senn@homeplace&.fix> wrote in message news:%23kUAXe%...
>
> "Tom Mason" <> skrev i meddelelsen news:OaNOgF%...
> My 512 Mb VPC takes 90 seconds to fully load and be ready for use.
>
> Tom Mason
>
> What kind of VPC. Windows VPC (XP-mode), VPC 2007,
> VirtualBox, VMware or any others I don't know of.
> And the loading time you post, is it with or without IC on ?.
> What is your host operating system and 32 -or 64bit ?.
> Now I'm interesting in knowing what load time others have
> when loading XP-mode with IC on, and on a 64bit host.
> The 90 seconds is what I get when the integration is off.
> With the integration on it is more than 3 minutes.
> /senn
> "senn" <senn@homeplace&.fix> wrote in message news:%...
> On a new Windows 7 64bit machine, with E9650, having 8GB ram installed.
> XP-mode takes 3 minutes to load. Is this normal ?.
> Or what could otherwise be the reason for this long loading time.
> I have trouble with pinging a modem. I'll have to shot down the
> modem and seek new IP. Compleatly switching off the lan connection
> setting doesn't reduce the time taken for the next XP-loading.
> Does other virtual machines load faster, VirtualBox or VMware ?.
> Thanks for an answer.
> /senn

"Robert Comer" <bobcomer-removeme-@mindspring.com> skrev i meddelelsen
news:...
> >I wonder; could the machine even start up if the virtualization
>>in the bios didn't work right.
>
> Not really, it doesn't work that way. If there was something wrong
> with the VT implementation you'd most likely get crashes or it would
> work at all. I don't think there's any way slower would be an effect
> and it's only on startup of the VM that you see it.
>
> --
> Bob Comer
>

Yeah, on start up having the integration coupled in.
I also think there's nothing wrong. But is still suprised,
why others can start up with the integration coupled in
about half the time of mine.

Ok bob, let it go, thanks.
/senn

On Thu, 4 Feb 2010 12:39:37 +0100, "senn" <senn@homeplace&.fix> wrote:

>
>"Robert Comer" <bobcomer-removeme-@mindspring.com> skrev i meddelelsen
>news:.. .
>> >I wonder; could the machine even start up if the virtualization
>>>in the bios didn't work right.
>>
>> Not really, it doesn't work that way. If there was something wrong
>> with the VT implementation you'd most likely get crashes or it would
>> work at all. I don't think there's any way slower would be an effect
>> and it's only on startup of the VM that you see it.
>>
>> --
>> Bob Comer
>>
>
>Yeah, on start up having the integration coupled in.
>I also think there's nothing wrong. But is still suprised,
>why others can start up with the integration coupled in
>about half the time of mine.
>
>Ok bob, let it go, thanks.
>/senn

Could be a number of things, power management, disk speed, which disk
the vHD is located on.
Sometimes the IC takes a long time on start-up. Happens to me
occasionally. I usually hit the shift+esc to open the window to see
whats going on.

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