5308 install boots into existing OS

I'm trying to install Vista onto a system with an existing Win2K Pro
installation.

I set the PC to boot from CD/DVD, put the Vista DVD (burned from the Feb
CTP ISO image) into the DVD drive. The display shows the BIOS messages,
then indicates that it's booting from CD/DVD and there is a lot of
activity from the DVD drive but the display doesn't change for a minute
or two. Then, the Win2K OS boots up. Once Win2K has started, the DVD
drive is not present in explorer or device manager.

Is it Vista that for some reason is causing Win2K to boot? What can I
do to stop this happening? Before anyone suggests it, I don't have a
spare clean machine, it has to go into a new partition on my existing
system.

Thanks,
Ian

"The display shows the BIOS messages,
then indicates that it's booting from CD/DVD and there is a lot of"

* You should hit a key on your keyboard to boot from the DVD. Are you using
a USB Keyboard? This could be the cause why its not booting from the DVD,
since some USB Keyboards have issues communicating with BIOS, you might need
a PS/2 keyboard to do this.

"Once Win2K has started, the DVD
drive is not present in explorer or device manager."

* Have you tried adding it back through Add/Remove Hard Wizard (Control
Panel)? Also check to see if the Device is present under Device Manager
(Control Panel > System > Hardware > Device Manager), if it is, select the
device, uninstall it and restart the system, Windows 2000 Pro should
redetect it.

"Before anyone suggests it, I don't have a
spare clean machine, it has to go into a new partition on my existing
system."

* It sounds like you already have a partition prepared for Windows Vista.
Why not launch setup from within Windows 2000 Professional and select the
logical partition for Vista? Also, please ensure that you have the latest
Service Pack (4) for Windows 2000 Professional installed before attempting
Windows Vista Setup. I think there are some compatibility issues with Vista
and older versions of 2000.
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"Ian Harding" <> wrote in message
news:...
> I'm trying to install Vista onto a system with an existing Win2K Pro
> installation.
>
> I set the PC to boot from CD/DVD, put the Vista DVD (burned from the Feb
> CTP ISO image) into the DVD drive. The display shows the BIOS messages,
> then indicates that it's booting from CD/DVD and there is a lot of
> activity from the DVD drive but the display doesn't change for a minute or
> two. Then, the Win2K OS boots up. Once Win2K has started, the DVD drive
> is not present in explorer or device manager.
>
> Is it Vista that for some reason is causing Win2K to boot? What can I do
> to stop this happening? Before anyone suggests it, I don't have a spare
> clean machine, it has to go into a new partition on my existing system.
>
> Thanks,
> Ian

Right after the BIO finishes its diagnotics (beep!), you should see a
message at the top of the screen "Press any key to boot from the CD". It
stays on the screen for 5 seconds, and if you don't press a key within this
window the system will boot from the HDD. The only time when a setup CD or
DVD for Windows will boot directly is when there's no bootable OS installed
on the system. Your symptoms seem to indicate that a BIOS update is
required, and/or the Vista DVD isn't correctly burned. Try burning it again
at low speed and verify the burn (Nero 7 has an option to do the latter for
an image burn).
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"Ian Harding" <> a écrit dans le message de news:
...
| I'm trying to install Vista onto a system with an existing Win2K Pro
| installation.
|
| I set the PC to boot from CD/DVD, put the Vista DVD (burned from the Feb
| CTP ISO image) into the DVD drive. The display shows the BIOS messages,
| then indicates that it's booting from CD/DVD and there is a lot of
| activity from the DVD drive but the display doesn't change for a minute
| or two. Then, the Win2K OS boots up. Once Win2K has started, the DVD
| drive is not present in explorer or device manager.
|
| Is it Vista that for some reason is causing Win2K to boot? What can I
| do to stop this happening? Before anyone suggests it, I don't have a
| spare clean machine, it has to go into a new partition on my existing
| system.
|
| Thanks,
| Ian

Andre Da Costa [Extended64] wrote:
> "The display shows the BIOS messages,
> then indicates that it's booting from CD/DVD and there is a lot of"
>
> * You should hit a key on your keyboard to boot from the DVD. Are you using
> a USB Keyboard? This could be the cause why its not booting from the DVD,
> since some USB Keyboards have issues communicating with BIOS, you might need
> a PS/2 keyboard to do this.

It's a PS/2 keyboard. The system has always successfully booted from
the Win2K install CD in the past.

> "Once Win2K has started, the DVD
> drive is not present in explorer or device manager."
>
> * Have you tried adding it back through Add/Remove Hard Wizard (Control
> Panel)? Also check to see if the Device is present under Device Manager
> (Control Panel > System > Hardware > Device Manager), if it is, select the
> device, uninstall it and restart the system, Windows 2000 Pro should
> redetect it.

The drive is not present in Device Manager, and is not found if I
redetect hardware. Never had a problem like this before, and it's
repeatable - the drive is always present unless the system attempted and
failed to boot from the Vista DVD in which case it isn't there.

> "Before anyone suggests it, I don't have a
> spare clean machine, it has to go into a new partition on my existing
> system."
>
> * It sounds like you already have a partition prepared for Windows Vista.
> Why not launch setup from within Windows 2000 Professional and select the
> logical partition for Vista? Also, please ensure that you have the latest
> Service Pack (4) for Windows 2000 Professional installed before attempting
> Windows Vista Setup. I think there are some compatibility issues with Vista
> and older versions of 2000.

That's right, I do have a partition ready for Vista - I want a parallel
install, not to upgrade the Win2K partition. I haven't been able to
proceed with this because the installer fails after attempting product
key validation because it attempts to use an export from kernel32.dll
that is only present on Windows XP, or so the newsgroup posting I found
said. My system is fully up to date with SP4 and all patches available
from Windows Update as of last week.

Thanks,
Ian

Pierre Szwarc wrote:
> Right after the BIO finishes its diagnotics (beep!), you should see a
> message at the top of the screen "Press any key to boot from the CD". It
> stays on the screen for 5 seconds, and if you don't press a key within this
> window the system will boot from the HDD. The only time when a setup CD or
> DVD for Windows will boot directly is when there's no bootable OS installed
> on the system. Your symptoms seem to indicate that a BIOS update is
> required, and/or the Vista DVD isn't correctly burned. Try burning it again
> at low speed and verify the burn (Nero 7 has an option to do the latter for
> an image burn).

I don't see the "Press any key to boot from the CD" message, and that's
a good point because I'm sure this message normally comes up when I
start up with the Win2K CD in the drive. I did try pressing a key
anyway but the Win2K OS still starts up. Possibly there's some sort of
time-out and the DVD hasn't properly initialized before the system tries
the next boot device. There is certainly a lot of activity from the DVD
drive, and a delay of maybe 30 seconds or longer.

You might be right, maybe it is a problem with the DVD burn or a BIOS
update is required. I've never booted from a DVD on this system before,
only CDs. The system is my home machine, so I'll bring the DVD in to
work tomorrow and see if I can get any other system to boot from it.

Thanks,
Ian