60gig unaccounted for on HD

Hello everyone, about two weeks ago I bought a brand new Acer Aspir
5810T with Vista Home x64 on it.

Out of the 454gb available on the 500gb HD,147gb has been used. Fro
what I can tell, here's what's taking up the space:

- 50gb personal files
- 20gb Windows directory
- 4gb Pagefile
- 3gb between the Program Files directories
- 2 - 3gb miscellaneous other files

The TreeSize program confirms that there's only about 85gb in use o
the harddrive. So wtf? Where's the other 60gb going? Am I just bein
stupid and forgetting something simple? Recovery is only 11gb, and it'
on another partition (not part of the 454.) I appreciate your help &
advice.

*ETA - *Nevermind! I read another post (should've done that first
sorry :P) and discovered it was System Restore. I disabled it and gaine
62gb back, then reenabled it and used 3gb on the first restore point
Why on earth is there 62gb worth of System Restore data on a brand ne
machine

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mousetopher

multiple copies. every time windows update runs, it creates a restor
point. if your computer operates normally, its safe to delete all bu
the most recent restore poin

--
kword88

Keep your restore points. One day you may need them. Here is a mor
detailed explanation that I put together. The question comes up all th
time

With each install and uninstall, Vista writes a shadow (restore point
of about 1GB - plus one is written each day. For that purpose Vist
reserves 15% of your OS disk partition and allocates/uses it as needed
Find Command Prompt (in All Programs > Accessories > Command Prompt)
right click on it and Open as Administrator. Into the little blac
window type VSSADMIN LIST SHADOWSTORAGE and hit ENTER. It will show
numbers
Allocated - that is the amount that it has grabbed from your O
partition at this tim
Used - this is the amount currently use
Maximum - this is the ultimate amount it will allocate and us
Once you reach "maximum", it will reuse the space deleting the oldes
shadows for the storage of the newest shadows. With e.g. an appr. 200G
of OS partition you should expect a maximum of 30GBs that are reserve
for the system and that you cannot use. If your OS partition is large
or smaller, the shadowstorage will be accordingly (always 15% max.) Bu
the restore points (shadows) are required the day you need to do
system restor

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whs

I see, thank you for the explanation. (Sorry again for asking a new
question. ^^) 60gb really seems excessive to me, since the old data get
overwritten anyway. Is there any way to lower the allocation amount? I
not, I'll probably just make a habit of periodically deleting ol
restore points. I'm a HD-space nazi. :

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mousetopher

mousetopher <> wrote:

>*ETA - *Nevermind! I read another post (should've done that first,
>sorry :P) and discovered it was System Restore. I disabled it and gained
>62gb back, then reenabled it and used 3gb on the first restore point.
>Why on earth is there 62gb worth of System Restore data on a brand new
>machine?

Because Vista reserves that much space (15%) on the hard drive that
you have, and you don't know what process were taken on what became
the final version of Windows that you have on that computer.

If you'd like to set a smaller amount of space for Vista to use, do
what is spelled out here:

http://www.petri.co.il/change_amount...e_in_vista.htm

Yes. It is very easy to lower the amount of shadowstorage. See here:
'How to reduce disk space used by Windows Vista system restore'
(http://www.downloadsquad.com/2007/04...ystem-restore/)


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whs

Thanks nugget. <3


--
mousetopher

A restore point is created every time you install a new program. A new
restore point is created every time you install a Windows Update. A restore
point is created every day if you do nothing else.

Need I go on?

--

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP
Windows Desktop Experience


"mousetopher" <> wrote in message
news:...
>
> Hello everyone, about two weeks ago I bought a brand new Acer Aspire
> 5810T with Vista Home x64 on it.
>
> Out of the 454gb available on the 500gb HD,147gb has been used. From
> what I can tell, here's what's taking up the space:
>
> - 50gb personal files
> - 20gb Windows directory
> - 4gb Pagefile
> - 3gb between the Program Files directories
> - 2 - 3gb miscellaneous other files
>
> The TreeSize program confirms that there's only about 85gb in use on
> the harddrive. So wtf? Where's the other 60gb going? Am I just being
> stupid and forgetting something simple? Recovery is only 11gb, and it's
> on another partition (not part of the 454.) I appreciate your help &&
> advice.
>
> *ETA - *Nevermind! I read another post (should've done that first,
> sorry :P) and discovered it was System Restore. I disabled it and gained
> 62gb back, then reenabled it and used 3gb on the first restore point.
> Why on earth is there 62gb worth of System Restore data on a brand new
> machine?
>
>
> --
> mousetopher

"Richard Urban" <> wrote:

>A restore point is created every time you install a new program. A new
>restore point is created every time you install a Windows Update. A restore
>point is created every day if you do nothing else.

Two out of three isn't bad.

How do you disable the restore point option?

--
J. Carlos

"Richard Urban" <> escribió en el mensaje
de noticias:uLx#...
> A restore point is created every time you install a new program. A new
> restore point is created every time you install a Windows Update. A
> restore point is created every day if you do nothing else.
>
> Need I go on?
>
> --
>
> Richard Urban
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Desktop Experience
>
>
> "mousetopher" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>>
>> Hello everyone, about two weeks ago I bought a brand new Acer Aspire
>> 5810T with Vista Home x64 on it.
>>
>> Out of the 454gb available on the 500gb HD,147gb has been used. From
>> what I can tell, here's what's taking up the space:
>>
>> - 50gb personal files
>> - 20gb Windows directory
>> - 4gb Pagefile
>> - 3gb between the Program Files directories
>> - 2 - 3gb miscellaneous other files
>>
>> The TreeSize program confirms that there's only about 85gb in use on
>> the harddrive. So wtf? Where's the other 60gb going? Am I just being
>> stupid and forgetting something simple? Recovery is only 11gb, and it's
>> on another partition (not part of the 454.) I appreciate your help &&
>> advice.
>>
>> *ETA - *Nevermind! I read another post (should've done that first,
>> sorry :P) and discovered it was System Restore. I disabled it and gained
>> 62gb back, then reenabled it and used 3gb on the first restore point.
>> Why on earth is there 62gb worth of System Restore data on a brand new
>> machine?
>>
>>
>> --
>> mousetopher
>
>