64 bit processors.

I'm looking to buy a new laptop preinstalled with Vista. Most new machines
I see in stores have Intel or AMD 64 bit processors, however, the OS and of
course all apps are only 32 bit. These laptops also only have 1-2 GB RAM.
Is there really any point in buying a 64 bit machine if all it's running is
32 bit OS and apps? Why would manufacturers even build these units with 64
bit processors?

For most users it's better to stay with 32 bit Vista at this time. Hardware
drivers and some kinds of software are much less available for the 64 bit
version. There's no downside to the 64 bit CPU. It allows possible future
upgrading. Most current CPU designs are 64 bit. Once these get into
production, there's not a lot of sense in manufacturers continuing to make
and enhance a separate 32 bit version.
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<msnews.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> I'm looking to buy a new laptop preinstalled with Vista. Most new
> machines I see in stores have Intel or AMD 64 bit processors, however, the
> OS and of course all apps are only 32 bit. These laptops also only have
> 1-2 GB RAM. Is there really any point in buying a 64 bit machine if all
> it's running is 32 bit OS and apps? Why would manufacturers even build
> these units with 64 bit processors?
>

;538500 Wrote:
> I'm looking to buy a new laptop preinstalled with Vista. Most ne
> machines I see in stores have Intel or AMD 64 bit processors, however
> the OS and of course all apps are only 32 bit. These laptops also onl
> have 1-2 GB RAM. Is there really any point in buying a 64 bit machine i
> all it's running is 32 bit OS and apps? Why would manufacturers eve
> build these units with 64 bit processors

All new computers today use 64-Bit processors.

The manufacturers either incorrectly make the assumption that the use
does not want a 64-Bit operating system, or have built the computer wit
components (other than the CPU) for which no 64-Bit drivers ar
available

What you really should do before you commit to a purchase, is t
confirm by the supplier whether the laptop you want can come preloade
with Vista x64. And do not allow them to charge you extra either
because there is no difference in price between the 32-bit and 64-bi
versions of Windows Vista.

In fact, if you where to purchase the retail edition of Vista Ultimate
you'll get BOTH 32-Bit and 64-Bit editions in the same package

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64 Bit processors is really just a state of the industry right now, the
technology is there so why not make it available? Regardless the majority of
applications for the desktop remain largely 32 bit, it is prepapring for
inevitable when there will be a mass transition to 64 bit, whether by the
Industry or end users. For instance, suppose you start doing a lot of
technical work that goes beyond the limits of 32 bit computing requiring
more than 4 GBs of RAM and real 64 bit OS such as the 64 bit version of
Vista, then you won't have to worry about changing out all your hardware to
take advantage of it.

The market that understands the capabilities, advantages and disadvantages
of using it, the biggest
advantage of all has to be the support for a larger memory address space
that allows you to do more number crunching with scientific, financial and
other engineering applications that use a lot of memory. Hopefully in the
future, more mainstream applications will support the platform and harness
its capabilities, but with the majority of systems coming with 1 to 2 GBs of
memory, and 64 bit really addressing larger amounts up to 128 GBs, you won't
see a lot of apps for now.
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> I'm looking to buy a new laptop preinstalled with Vista. Most new
> machines I see in stores have Intel or AMD 64 bit processors, however, the
> OS and of course all apps are only 32 bit. These laptops also only have
> 1-2 GB RAM. Is there really any point in buying a 64 bit machine if all
> it's running is 32 bit OS and apps? Why would manufacturers even build
> these units with 64 bit processors?
>

On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 12:25:22 -0500, msnews.microsoft.com wrote:

> I'm looking to buy a new laptop preinstalled with Vista. Most new machines
> I see in stores have Intel or AMD 64 bit processors, however, the OS and of
> course all apps are only 32 bit. These laptops also only have 1-2 GB RAM.
> Is there really any point in buying a 64 bit machine if all it's running is
> 32 bit OS and apps? Why would manufacturers even build these units with 64
> bit processors?

1) there is a 64bit vista.
2) other OSs have been 64 bit capable for a number of years. I started
with 64 bits around 2000 on a DEC Alpha (yes, I know it's a different
architecture) and 64 bit Linux has been available for several years.

Manufacturers don't always build for the lowest common denominator.

On Sat, 8 Dec 2007 12:25:22 -0500, <msnews.microsoft.com> wrote:

> I'm looking to buy a new laptop preinstalled with Vista. Most new machines
> I see in stores have Intel or AMD 64 bit processors, however, the OS and of
> course all apps are only 32 bit.


Generally correct.


> These laptops also only have 1-2 GB RAM.


1GB is iffy, depending on what apps you run. But 2GB is sufficient for
almost everyone who doesn't run particularly memory-hungry
applications.


> Is there really any point in buying a 64 bit machine if all


That's what the marketplace is like now. There isn't a whole lot of
choice.


> it's running is
> 32 bit OS and apps?


You won't see any advantage from the 64-bit processor now, but over
the next few years there will be more and more 64-bit apps available.
Having the 64-bit processor now puts you in the position of being able
to upgrade to 64-bit Windows and apps when doing so makes sense.


> Why would manufacturers even build these units with 64
> bit processors?


Because that's what the chip manufacturers are selling them.


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On 8-Dec-2007, "Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" <> wrote:

> 64 Bit processors is really just a state of the industry right now, the
> technology is there so why not make it available?

So why on Vista 64bit Ultimate, with 4GB Crucial
533 RAM, 1066FSB, 3.06GHz processor, Asus mobo,
are my large Excel macros running like a dog as 32bit?
Typical of MS rubbish?
Not to mention many apps won't install, Azerus based
USB wireless adapters seemingly no drivers, etc.

wrote:

>
>On 8-Dec-2007, "Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" <> wrote:
>
>> 64 Bit processors is really just a state of the industry right now, the
>> technology is there so why not make it available?
>
>So why on Vista 64bit Ultimate, with 4GB Crucial
>533 RAM, 1066FSB, 3.06GHz processor, Asus mobo,
>are my large Excel macros running like a dog as 32bit?

AFAIK, Excel and the rest of Office exist only as 32-bit programs.
64-bit Vista will run 32-bit programs.

>Not to mention many apps won't install, Azerus based
>USB wireless adapters seemingly no drivers, etc.

True. There's lots of 64-bit hardware around, but software doesn't
seem to have caught up yet.

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