8 reasons why you may NOT see SP1 on windows update

Read the article

http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=1282

Why are some Windows Vista users who have Windows Update turned on not able
to see or obtain SP1, even though Microsoft made that code available on
March 18?

The answer to that thorny question and a few more (though not all) of the
latest specifics regarding Vista availability are on the Vista Team blog in
a new posting by Program Manager Nick White.

"If in running Windows Update you do not see Windows Vista SP1 listed, there
are a number of good reasons for this (Eight in fact, see the whole list),"
White blogged.

Among those reasons:

a.. You have not yet installed the prerequisite packages need to be
installed on your Vista PC first
b.. You need to uninstall pre-released versions of SP1 before installing
SP1
c.. You already have SP1 installed (from MSDN, TechNet or some other
channel) and don't realize it
d.. You are running a driver that Microsoft has deemed problematic; SP1
won't be offered to you until the driver vendor has made an update
Which drivers were the "offending" ones that resulted in Microsoft holding
back on distributing widely SP1 after it was released to manufacturing in
early February? My ZDNet blogging colleague Ed Bott points to the Microsoft
Knowledge Base article that lists the drivers that needed updating.

And what about the prerequisite that led to "endless-loop" problems noted by
a number of users attempting to grab SP1 via Automatic Updates? Microsoft
says they identified the cause of the problem, but haven't completely fixed
it yet. On the 18th, White blogged:

"By temporarily suspending automatic distribution, and making a small
change on our Windows Update server, we believe we've largely eliminated
this problem (and our support call volume reflects this). We did find one
aspect of the problem that was exacerbated when the update was installed
using automatic updates. For this issue, we're planning to release an
additional update before we resume automatic distribution of the Servicing
Stack Update."

Microsoft isn't going to "push" Vista SP1 to users until April; users who
don't yet have SP1 but want it before that need to go into Windows Update
and get it.

Sucks that I can't install it. Must be my SigmaTel audio driver. Hopefully
they get out some kind of update out soon so I can get SP1.

Windows Vista Service Pack 1 is not available for installation
from Windows Update and is not offered by Automatic Updates:
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=948343#method5

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User

---------------------------------------------------------------

"SuperTongue" wrote:

Sucks that I can't install it. Must be my SigmaTel audio driver. Hopefully
they get out some kind of update out soon so I can get SP1.

"Carey Frisch [MVP]" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Windows Vista Service Pack 1 is not available for installation
> from Windows Update and is not offered by Automatic Updates:
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=948343#method5
>
> --



I checked windows update about an hour ago, it showed me an update for
Defender, I installed it, then it showed me the SP1 update available.



--
Don

Have to give a "THUMBS UP" to this article !!!

Kept checking Windows Update and no SP1 listed. Read the article and checked
for drivers mentioned. Updated the TouchPad driver and Realtek HD Audio
driver,
rebooted and checked Windows Update again....Up pops SP1 available for
download. 68 minutes later it finished . Rebooted and all is good.
Running Vista Ultimate on a Toshiba laptop.

ray



"On the Bridge! (An MVP upgrade)" <On@the,bridge> wrote in message
news:47e02feb$...
> Read the article
>
> http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=1282
>
> Why are some Windows Vista users who have Windows Update turned on not
able
> to see or obtain SP1, even though Microsoft made that code available on
> March 18?
>
> The answer to that thorny question and a few more (though not all) of the
> latest specifics regarding Vista availability are on the Vista Team blog
in
> a new posting by Program Manager Nick White.
>
> "If in running Windows Update you do not see Windows Vista SP1 listed,
there
> are a number of good reasons for this (Eight in fact, see the whole
list),"
> White blogged.
>
> Among those reasons:
>
> a.. You have not yet installed the prerequisite packages need to be
> installed on your Vista PC first
> b.. You need to uninstall pre-released versions of SP1 before installing
> SP1
> c.. You already have SP1 installed (from MSDN, TechNet or some other
> channel) and don't realize it
> d.. You are running a driver that Microsoft has deemed problematic; SP1
> won't be offered to you until the driver vendor has made an update
> Which drivers were the "offending" ones that resulted in Microsoft holding
> back on distributing widely SP1 after it was released to manufacturing in
> early February? My ZDNet blogging colleague Ed Bott points to the
Microsoft
> Knowledge Base article that lists the drivers that needed updating.
>
> And what about the prerequisite that led to "endless-loop" problems noted
by
> a number of users attempting to grab SP1 via Automatic Updates? Microsoft
> says they identified the cause of the problem, but haven't completely
fixed
> it yet. On the 18th, White blogged:
>
> "By temporarily suspending automatic distribution, and making a small
> change on our Windows Update server, we believe we've largely eliminated
> this problem (and our support call volume reflects this). We did find one
> aspect of the problem that was exacerbated when the update was installed
> using automatic updates. For this issue, we're planning to release an
> additional update before we resume automatic distribution of the Servicing
> Stack Update."
>
> Microsoft isn't going to "push" Vista SP1 to users until April; users who
> don't yet have SP1 but want it before that need to go into Windows Update
> and get it.
>
>

I agree, thumbs up for the article and for posting a link to it here. In my
case SP1 was not showing and it turned out to be the Upek Fingerprint reader
driver in my Lenovo T61p. A trip to the Upek site to download the latest
driver (which wasn't available through Windows Update or using the Lenovo
System Update) and SP 1 then appeared and installed with no problems.

"thinman" <> wrote in message
news:PG%Dj.37297$...
> Have to give a "THUMBS UP" to this article !!!
>
> Kept checking Windows Update and no SP1 listed. Read the article and
> checked
> for drivers mentioned. Updated the TouchPad driver and Realtek HD Audio
> driver,
> rebooted and checked Windows Update again....Up pops SP1 available for
> download. 68 minutes later it finished . Rebooted and all is good.
> Running Vista Ultimate on a Toshiba laptop.
>
> ray
>
>
>
> "On the Bridge! (An MVP upgrade)" <On@the,bridge> wrote in message
> news:47e02feb$...
>> Read the article
>>
>> http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=1282
>>
>> Why are some Windows Vista users who have Windows Update turned on not
> able
>> to see or obtain SP1, even though Microsoft made that code available on
>> March 18?
>>
>> The answer to that thorny question and a few more (though not all) of the
>> latest specifics regarding Vista availability are on the Vista Team blog
> in
>> a new posting by Program Manager Nick White.
>>
>> "If in running Windows Update you do not see Windows Vista SP1 listed,
> there
>> are a number of good reasons for this (Eight in fact, see the whole
> list),"
>> White blogged.
>>
>> Among those reasons:
>>
>> a.. You have not yet installed the prerequisite packages need to be
>> installed on your Vista PC first
>> b.. You need to uninstall pre-released versions of SP1 before
>> installing
>> SP1
>> c.. You already have SP1 installed (from MSDN, TechNet or some other
>> channel) and don't realize it
>> d.. You are running a driver that Microsoft has deemed problematic; SP1
>> won't be offered to you until the driver vendor has made an update
>> Which drivers were the "offending" ones that resulted in Microsoft
>> holding
>> back on distributing widely SP1 after it was released to manufacturing in
>> early February? My ZDNet blogging colleague Ed Bott points to the
> Microsoft
>> Knowledge Base article that lists the drivers that needed updating.
>>
>> And what about the prerequisite that led to "endless-loop" problems noted
> by
>> a number of users attempting to grab SP1 via Automatic Updates? Microsoft
>> says they identified the cause of the problem, but haven't completely
> fixed
>> it yet. On the 18th, White blogged:
>>
>> "By temporarily suspending automatic distribution, and making a small
>> change on our Windows Update server, we believe we've largely eliminated
>> this problem (and our support call volume reflects this). We did find
>> one
>> aspect of the problem that was exacerbated when the update was installed
>> using automatic updates. For this issue, we're planning to release an
>> additional update before we resume automatic distribution of the
>> Servicing
>> Stack Update."
>>
>> Microsoft isn't going to "push" Vista SP1 to users until April; users who
>> don't yet have SP1 but want it before that need to go into Windows Update
>> and get it.
>>
>>
>
>

glad it helped you


"thinman" <> wrote in message
news:PG%Dj.37297$...
> Have to give a "THUMBS UP" to this article !!!
>
> Kept checking Windows Update and no SP1 listed. Read the article and
> checked
> for drivers mentioned. Updated the TouchPad driver and Realtek HD Audio
> driver,
> rebooted and checked Windows Update again....Up pops SP1 available for
> download. 68 minutes later it finished . Rebooted and all is good.
> Running Vista Ultimate on a Toshiba laptop.
>
> ray
>
>
>
> "On the Bridge! (An MVP upgrade)" <On@the,bridge> wrote in message
> news:47e02feb$...
>> Read the article
>>
>> http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=1282
>>
>> Why are some Windows Vista users who have Windows Update turned on not
> able
>> to see or obtain SP1, even though Microsoft made that code available on
>> March 18?
>>
>> The answer to that thorny question and a few more (though not all) of the
>> latest specifics regarding Vista availability are on the Vista Team blog
> in
>> a new posting by Program Manager Nick White.
>>
>> "If in running Windows Update you do not see Windows Vista SP1 listed,
> there
>> are a number of good reasons for this (Eight in fact, see the whole
> list),"
>> White blogged.
>>
>> Among those reasons:
>>
>> a.. You have not yet installed the prerequisite packages need to be
>> installed on your Vista PC first
>> b.. You need to uninstall pre-released versions of SP1 before
>> installing
>> SP1
>> c.. You already have SP1 installed (from MSDN, TechNet or some other
>> channel) and don't realize it
>> d.. You are running a driver that Microsoft has deemed problematic; SP1
>> won't be offered to you until the driver vendor has made an update
>> Which drivers were the "offending" ones that resulted in Microsoft
>> holding
>> back on distributing widely SP1 after it was released to manufacturing in
>> early February? My ZDNet blogging colleague Ed Bott points to the
> Microsoft
>> Knowledge Base article that lists the drivers that needed updating.
>>
>> And what about the prerequisite that led to "endless-loop" problems noted
> by
>> a number of users attempting to grab SP1 via Automatic Updates? Microsoft
>> says they identified the cause of the problem, but haven't completely
> fixed
>> it yet. On the 18th, White blogged:
>>
>> "By temporarily suspending automatic distribution, and making a small
>> change on our Windows Update server, we believe we've largely eliminated
>> this problem (and our support call volume reflects this). We did find
>> one
>> aspect of the problem that was exacerbated when the update was installed
>> using automatic updates. For this issue, we're planning to release an
>> additional update before we resume automatic distribution of the
>> Servicing
>> Stack Update."
>>
>> Microsoft isn't going to "push" Vista SP1 to users until April; users who
>> don't yet have SP1 but want it before that need to go into Windows Update
>> and get it.
>>
>>
>
>

glad it helped you


"Kevin Young" <> wrote in message
news:9C80E409-CD77-4DFF-A9E1-...
>I agree, thumbs up for the article and for posting a link to it here. In
>my case SP1 was not showing and it turned out to be the Upek Fingerprint
>reader driver in my Lenovo T61p. A trip to the Upek site to download the
>latest driver (which wasn't available through Windows Update or using the
>Lenovo System Update) and SP 1 then appeared and installed with no
>problems.
>
> "thinman" <> wrote in message
> news:PG%Dj.37297$...
>> Have to give a "THUMBS UP" to this article !!!
>>
>> Kept checking Windows Update and no SP1 listed. Read the article and
>> checked
>> for drivers mentioned. Updated the TouchPad driver and Realtek HD Audio
>> driver,
>> rebooted and checked Windows Update again....Up pops SP1 available for
>> download. 68 minutes later it finished . Rebooted and all is good.
>> Running Vista Ultimate on a Toshiba laptop.
>>
>> ray
>>
>>
>>
>> "On the Bridge! (An MVP upgrade)" <On@the,bridge> wrote in message
>> news:47e02feb$...
>>> Read the article
>>>
>>> http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=1282
>>>
>>> Why are some Windows Vista users who have Windows Update turned on not
>> able
>>> to see or obtain SP1, even though Microsoft made that code available on
>>> March 18?
>>>
>>> The answer to that thorny question and a few more (though not all) of
>>> the
>>> latest specifics regarding Vista availability are on the Vista Team blog
>> in
>>> a new posting by Program Manager Nick White.
>>>
>>> "If in running Windows Update you do not see Windows Vista SP1 listed,
>> there
>>> are a number of good reasons for this (Eight in fact, see the whole
>> list),"
>>> White blogged.
>>>
>>> Among those reasons:
>>>
>>> a.. You have not yet installed the prerequisite packages need to be
>>> installed on your Vista PC first
>>> b.. You need to uninstall pre-released versions of SP1 before
>>> installing
>>> SP1
>>> c.. You already have SP1 installed (from MSDN, TechNet or some other
>>> channel) and don't realize it
>>> d.. You are running a driver that Microsoft has deemed problematic;
>>> SP1
>>> won't be offered to you until the driver vendor has made an update
>>> Which drivers were the "offending" ones that resulted in Microsoft
>>> holding
>>> back on distributing widely SP1 after it was released to manufacturing
>>> in
>>> early February? My ZDNet blogging colleague Ed Bott points to the
>> Microsoft
>>> Knowledge Base article that lists the drivers that needed updating.
>>>
>>> And what about the prerequisite that led to "endless-loop" problems
>>> noted
>> by
>>> a number of users attempting to grab SP1 via Automatic Updates?
>>> Microsoft
>>> says they identified the cause of the problem, but haven't completely
>> fixed
>>> it yet. On the 18th, White blogged:
>>>
>>> "By temporarily suspending automatic distribution, and making a small
>>> change on our Windows Update server, we believe we've largely eliminated
>>> this problem (and our support call volume reflects this). We did find
>>> one
>>> aspect of the problem that was exacerbated when the update was installed
>>> using automatic updates. For this issue, we're planning to release an
>>> additional update before we resume automatic distribution of the
>>> Servicing
>>> Stack Update."
>>>
>>> Microsoft isn't going to "push" Vista SP1 to users until April; users
>>> who
>>> don't yet have SP1 but want it before that need to go into Windows
>>> Update
>>> and get it.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>