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Donald Shelton
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      02-11-2007
After I boot up, I looked at the process list. Unbelievably I had 91
processes running. Is this normal?

Which ones are necessary and which ones can I kill without problems? I am
finding that my memory usage is upwards of 70% at all times. I have 1GB of
ram. I am using the vista home premium.

Thanks

Don
 
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Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User
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      02-11-2007
My, you have been busy downloading and installing stuff.. Vista makes more
efficient use of memory than ever XP did, so expect it to leave less memory
kicking around doing nothing.. free memory is wasted memory..

Re, the processes, look at what you have auto starting, decide if you really
need it to auto start, and if the answer is no, then look for options within
the program to stop it..


"Donald Shelton" <> wrote in message
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> After I boot up, I looked at the process list. Unbelievably I had 91
> processes running. Is this normal?
>
> Which ones are necessary and which ones can I kill without problems? I am
> finding that my memory usage is upwards of 70% at all times. I have 1GB
> of
> ram. I am using the vista home premium.
>
> Thanks
>
> Don


 
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Mhzjunkie
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      02-11-2007
Donald Shelton spewed out this bit, and i'll scatter a few bits myself:

> After I boot up, I looked at the process list. Unbelievably I had 91
> processes running. Is this normal?
>
> Which ones are necessary and which ones can I kill without problems?
> I am finding that my memory usage is upwards of 70% at all times. I
> have 1GB of ram. I am using the vista home premium.


Oh my ! You need to do a little trimming there sir. I can't see your list of
running processes, so I can't tell you. Google them up.

I've 52 processes running, on a fully loaded system. Although I think that's
to many, it seems to run along swimmingly.

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      02-11-2007

"Donald Shelton" <> wrote in message
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> After I boot up, I looked at the process list. Unbelievably I had 91
> processes running. Is this normal?
>
> Which ones are necessary and which ones can I kill without problems? I am
> finding that my memory usage is upwards of 70% at all times. I have 1GB
> of
> ram. I am using the vista home premium.
>
> Thanks
>
> Don


You have to many programs loading up when you boot into Vista. You need to
clean them up. I only have 30 at start up. As I have learned also, Vista
seems to handle memory better than XP did for me, and I am running more
graphics than I did with XP too, and still have my system running
seamlessly. I have 2 gigs of RAM, so that helps. The install over XP-Pro was
almost seamless too. I have had to work out a few bugs, but nothing major,
and a few little ones remains that will have to be fixed by the program
makers and one by the maker of my soundcard.

 
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f/fgeorge
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      02-11-2007
On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 14:00:00 -0800, Donald Shelton
<> wrote:

>After I boot up, I looked at the process list. Unbelievably I had 91
>processes running. Is this normal?
>
>Which ones are necessary and which ones can I kill without problems? I am
>finding that my memory usage is upwards of 70% at all times. I have 1GB of
>ram. I am using the vista home premium.
>
>Thanks
>
>Don

New OS's and cpu makers are racing to see who can outdo the other
first. MS makes a new OS that can do LOTS more so the cpu makers make
a cpu that can do more so MS makes a new OS that can do more ,etc etc
etc. Each new OS will do more in the background so you and I do not
have to wait as long for things to happen. It is a never ending cycle.
And the reason your older machine does not do well as the SP's get
distributed.

 
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Otter
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      02-11-2007
In news:eqo41k$ut6$,
Mhzjunkie <> typed:
> Donald Shelton spewed out this bit, and i'll scatter a few bits
> myself:
>> After I boot up, I looked at the process list. Unbelievably I had 91
>> processes running. Is this normal?
>>
>> Which ones are necessary and which ones can I kill without problems?
>> I am finding that my memory usage is upwards of 70% at all times. I
>> have 1GB of ram. I am using the vista home premium.

>
> Oh my ! You need to do a little trimming there sir. I can't see your
> list of running processes, so I can't tell you. Google them up.
>
> I've 52 processes running, on a fully loaded system. Although I think
> that's to many, it seems to run along swimmingly.


That's "too" many, you illiterate yokel.


 
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Chad Harris
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      02-11-2007
Speed PC and Control CPU Tips/Steps

SPEED AND CPU:

_______________

1) Trim processes you don't need in TM. Google them or "search engine of

your choice them" if you have to.

2) Go to

services.msc in run box and turn off services not needed and there are some.

SERVICE CONFIGURATION REFERENCES*

*Vista Services*

Part One

http://www.tweakvista.com/article38662.aspx

Part Two

http://www.tweakvista.com/article38664.aspx

Windows Vista Services Tweak Guide v1.0

http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=87443


3) Run System File Checker.

SFC: http://www.updatexp.com/scannow-sfc.html

In Vista run it from an elevated command prompt. Right click command on

start and run as administrator.

4) Run 3 or so spyware scans Windows Defender, , Adaware, and Spybot

5) Probably the most important for speed consistently and efficient resource

use DEFRAG with www.raxco.com or www.diskeeeper.com with 15% free space on

drive if DK and or >5% if Raxco's Perfect Disk.

http://groups.msn.com/windowsxpcentral/spyware.msnw

Download Adaware and

Spybot from here.

GOOD Overall Review for Defending Your PC:

http://defendingyourmachine.blogspot.com/

MSFT Defense Site MSFT Security:

http://www.microsoft.com/security/default.mspx

Protect Your PC from MSFT Security:

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...t/default.mspx

MSFT Windows Defender

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...e/default.mspx

MSFT MSRT: (Malicious Software Removal Tool)

http://www.microsoft.com/security/ma...e/default.mspx



MSFT "Windows One Care" in Wings (AV and Spyware Scans)

http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/p...OneCarePR.mspx

6) Unck items from msconfig start tab you don't need starting and some

won't start--peoiple who think just uncking for many are naive because there

are 12 places things can be started including several reg keys like Run Once

keys and there are serveral.

7) Turn off Messaging service--it's a security vulnerability and it slows

you

8) Defrag very often every other day actually.

9) Turn off indexing.

10) Clear TIF and %temp% files (delete) and go to safe mode to get as many

as u can.

10) Do troubleshooting with msconfig.

11) Do Clean boot with msconfig utility and search for the directions here:





Vista RTM Tweak Guide (Tweaks to Improve Performances)

http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...tm+tweak+guide



1) Task Manager lists the services on the services tab in Vista.

2) Type services.msc in run box and using the list of services, click the

service and you'll get a description of services.

3) There is a list here of the default services and a description>>click

"default settings for services" in the left pane.

http://technet2.microsoft.com/Window....mspx?mfr=true



4) To view service dependencies

1.

Open Services.

2.

In the details pane, right-click the service that you want to view

dependencies for, and then click Properties.

3.

Click the Dependencies tab.

4.

To view services that are associated dependencies of the selected service,

in the list on the Dependencies tab, click the plus sign next to the

service.

Many of the services but not all in Vista are the same as in XP, so in that

context:

http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/services.htm


Also see the extremely helpful site:

Black Viper's Service List

http://www.dead-eye.net/WinXP%20Services.htm


Black Viper's Site (Many of the same services in Vista)

http://www.dead-eye.net/WinXP%20Services.htm


http://www.z123.org/techsupport/xpservices.htm


http://www.geocities.com/ziyadhosein/xpserv1.htm


http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup_content.php

This will be helpful

http://web.archive.org/web/200411280...servicecfg.htm

__________________________________________________ ____________________________________________

How to troubleshoot by using the System Configuration utility in Windows XP

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310560/

Resources for troubleshooting startup problems in Windows XP

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308041/

How to perform advanced clean-boot troubleshooting in Windows XP

http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;316434

How to perform a clean boot in Windows XP

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310353/

How to Disable a Service or Device that Prevents Windows from Starting

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310602/



Also ck out these references:

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1558,5155,00.asp



http://www.speedupyourcomputer.windo....com/index.htm

and

http://www.extremetech.com/search_re...app=&site=4P.S.



Defragging with a decent defrag every day will make a huge dent inefficient

resource/CPU use.

Perfect Disk has a 5 month full functionality trial on now for Windows

Vista.

Good luck,

CH

"Donald Shelton" <> wrote in message
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> After I boot up, I looked at the process list. Unbelievably I had 91
> processes running. Is this normal?
>
> Which ones are necessary and which ones can I kill without problems? I am
> finding that my memory usage is upwards of 70% at all times. I have 1GB
> of
> ram. I am using the vista home premium.
>
> Thanks
>
> Don


 
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Kerry Brown
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      02-11-2007
"Donald Shelton" <> wrote in message
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> After I boot up, I looked at the process list. Unbelievably I had 91
> processes running. Is this normal?
>
> Which ones are necessary and which ones can I kill without problems? I am
> finding that my memory usage is upwards of 70% at all times. I have 1GB
> of
> ram. I am using the vista home premium.
>
> Thanks
>
> Don



I'm guessing you have Vista Ultimate which as the name implies has
everything. I have Vista Business on this computer and even with Outlook,
Windows Mail, and Nod32 running I still only have 46 active processes. Even
with Ultimate or Home Premium 91 is a lot. What programs do you have running
on startup?

As for the memory, I don't see what the obsession with free memory is.
Ideally an OS and programs will use the memory. Why would you want to have
the OS keep unused memory available? If you want to see if the memory is
being used efficiently look to your page file statistics.

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Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca


 
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Rock
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      02-12-2007
"Donald Shelton" <> wrote

> After I boot up, I looked at the process list. Unbelievably I had 91
> processes running. Is this normal?
>
> Which ones are necessary and which ones can I kill without problems? I am
> finding that my memory usage is upwards of 70% at all times. I have 1GB
> of
> ram. I am using the vista home premium.


You shouldn't be as concerned with how many are running as what is running.
Do you need all those? That said 91 is a bit above the norm which might be
in the 40-60 range. Open Task Manager, show processes for all users, do
some research using Google on what's running and then stop those you don't
want to run. Look first to the program itself for an option to not run on
startup. If nothing's there uncheck the startup folder:

C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Startup

Otherwise uncheck it's entry in msconfig.

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Scott
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      02-12-2007
On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 14:00:00 -0800, Donald Shelton
<> spake thusly:

>After I boot up, I looked at the process list. Unbelievably I had 91
>processes running. Is this normal?
>
>Which ones are necessary and which ones can I kill without problems? I am
>finding that my memory usage is upwards of 70% at all times. I have 1GB of
>ram. I am using the vista home premium.
>


I'm here with 62 processes, 2 GB RAM and 56 % Memory usage on Vista
Ultimate x64.

Everything seems normal here.

91 seems high, but who knows? It may or may not be.

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