I Accept The Principle of UAC, But...

I am probably one of the few who hasn't disabled UAC, because I do believe
that it has some effect with respect to security.

But I am getting annoyed that it is making me jump hoops to start the
Apache httpd server (runs as service on my machine).

Apache installs a "start" shortcut and a "Apache monitor," from which the
service can be started, stopped and restarted.

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1. When the Windows starts/powers-up/boots, the Apache service is supposed
to start. It does not.

2. Attempting manual start from the "monitor" program does not start the
service.

3. Attempting start from the 'start' shortcut continually forces me to see
the Allow/Cancel

I need to also state that I moved most of the files, particularly its
intialization file, httpd.conf, out of their installation tree under C:
\Program Files because it was impossible to edit the config file under
that tree. They were removed to c:\User\[name]\AppData\Roaming\Apache,
which I created myself.

As to item 1, the start of service at bootup, I checked Computer
Management->System Tools->Event Viewer->Windows Logs->Application, and
under Apache Service the following error report is given:

The Apache service named reported the following error:
>>> (20024)The given path is misformatted or contained invalid
characters: Invalid config file path
"C:/Users/john/AppData/Roaming/Apache/httpd.conf"

Note that I changed a parameter in the httpd.exe shortcut so that it would
try to find its config file, and I used the convention of forward-slashing
instead of back-slashing in the path name, because I was seeing this error
as well:

The Apache service named reported the following error:
>>> (20024)The given path is misformatted or contained invalid
characters: Invalid config file path
"C:\\Users\\john\\AppData\\Roaming\\Apache\\httpd. conf"

The question is: How do I get Apache service to start silently at bootup
and change the shortcuts and monitor program so they don't UAC me
constantly?

I don't know if this will help, I have a script here:
http://www.paulsxp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=20
that will turn off the UAC prompt, UAC will still be active, but no prompt.

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"mavigozler" <> wrote in message
news:Xns9C0FBE1C24E29mavi@207.46.248.16...
>
> I am probably one of the few who hasn't disabled UAC, because I do believe
> that it has some effect with respect to security.
>
> But I am getting annoyed that it is making me jump hoops to start the
> Apache httpd server (runs as service on my machine).
>
> Apache installs a "start" shortcut and a "Apache monitor," from which the
> service can be started, stopped and restarted.
>
> =====
>
> 1. When the Windows starts/powers-up/boots, the Apache service is supposed
> to start. It does not.
>
> 2. Attempting manual start from the "monitor" program does not start the
> service.
>
> 3. Attempting start from the 'start' shortcut continually forces me to see
> the Allow/Cancel
>
> I need to also state that I moved most of the files, particularly its
> intialization file, httpd.conf, out of their installation tree under C:
> \Program Files because it was impossible to edit the config file under
> that tree. They were removed to c:\User\[name]\AppData\Roaming\Apache,
> which I created myself.
>
> As to item 1, the start of service at bootup, I checked Computer
> Management->System Tools->Event Viewer->Windows Logs->Application, and
> under Apache Service the following error report is given:
>
> The Apache service named reported the following error:
> >>> (20024)The given path is misformatted or contained invalid
> characters: Invalid config file path
> "C:/Users/john/AppData/Roaming/Apache/httpd.conf"
>
> Note that I changed a parameter in the httpd.exe shortcut so that it would
> try to find its config file, and I used the convention of forward-slashing
> instead of back-slashing in the path name, because I was seeing this error
> as well:
>
> The Apache service named reported the following error:
> >>> (20024)The given path is misformatted or contained invalid
> characters: Invalid config file path
> "C:\\Users\\john\\AppData\\Roaming\\Apache\\httpd. conf"
>
> The question is: How do I get Apache service to start silently at bootup
> and change the shortcuts and monitor program so they don't UAC me
> constantly?

On 18 May 2009, mavigozler <> wrote in
microsoft.public.windows.vista.general:

> The question is: How do I get Apache service to start silently at
> bootup

Set apache up as a service, using a privileged account set up for the
use of apache only.

You have to edit httpd.conf to point to your new htdocs and conf
locations. I don't think that editing the shortcuts is good enough.

A more informative subject line would probably get you more informative
answers. Also, I believe apache has support forums; another good
resource is <http://www.apachelounge.com/>.

On Mon, 18 May 2009 16:41:19 +0100, mavigozler <>
wrote:

One thing to try is to re-install it but not under program files.
If you install it under "C:\Apache" then any issues related to
virtualisation of program files, and associated user access permissions
will go away.


>
> I am probably one of the few who hasn't disabled UAC, because I do
> believe
> that it has some effect with respect to security.
>
> But I am getting annoyed that it is making me jump hoops to start the
> Apache httpd server (runs as service on my machine).
>
> Apache installs a "start" shortcut and a "Apache monitor," from which the
> service can be started, stopped and restarted.
>


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Alan Montgomery wrote:
> On Mon, 18 May 2009 16:41:19 +0100, mavigozler <>
> wrote:
>
> One thing to try is to re-install it but not under program files.
> If you install it under "C:\Apache" then any issues related to
> virtualisation of program files, and associated user access permissions
> will go away.
>
>
>>
>> I am probably one of the few who hasn't disabled UAC, because I do
>> believe
>> that it has some effect with respect to security.
>>
>> But I am getting annoyed that it is making me jump hoops to start the
>> Apache httpd server (runs as service on my machine).
>>
>> Apache installs a "start" shortcut and a "Apache monitor," from which the
>> service can be started, stopped and restarted.
>>
>
>

UAC is both an asset and a pain in the ass, the Linux version seems more
logical while the Vista version tends to shout "Rape" so much it's like
the proverbial car alarm in the parking lot. You look, but are you going
to play cop because some gal leaned on the panic button getting keys
from her purse and risk being identified as an attacker, or will you
just turn and walk away. Or click "Okay".

On Wed, 20 May 2009 19:09:10 -0500, Charlie Tame <>
wrote:

>
>UAC is both an asset and a pain in the ass, the Linux version seems more
>logical while the Vista version tends to shout "Rape" so much it's like
>the proverbial car alarm in the parking lot. You look, but are you going
>to play cop because some gal leaned on the panic button getting keys
>from her purse and risk being identified as an attacker, or will you
>just turn and walk away. Or click "Okay".

How hot is she?