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Wabash Willie
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      03-03-2008
Vista Home Premium. Sorry to say.

How can I gain FullControl of my machine? I have turned off UAC. There is
only 1 account. That's me, and I'm the Administrator. I right-click on
Documents and Settings in Explorer (or whatever it's called now) and I get
"Access Denied?".

I am NOT interested in Microsoft's idea of security. I want absolute control
of every file on my machine. If I can't have control, the machine is useless
to me.
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Ronnie Vernon MVP
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      03-03-2008
Wabash

What you are describing here has nothing to do with you having 'full
control' on your machine? If you indeed want 'full control', you first need
to learn how the new operating system works.

The default name and location of some user folders has changed in Vista. The
"My" designation has been retired.

The folders you are seeing (My Music, My Pictures, My Videos, etc) are not
real folders, they are called Junctions and they are there for compatibility
purposes only. These junctions will redirect any older program or
application installations to the new location in Vista. You can identify
these junctions by the shortcut arrow that appears on the folder icon.

Example: The C:\Documents and Settings folder is now called C:\Users.
Example: The My Documents folder is now simply called Documents. It still
appears under the Users/username folder.

It's very important to understand that these junctions do not contain any
useful information and should not be opened or used like a regular folder.

There is a website that explains this in detail and has a list of the old
folders that you saw in XP with their new names/locations in Vista.

Windows Vista Junction Points:
http://www.svrops.com/svrops/articles/jpoints.htm

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Microsoft MVP
Windows Desktop Experience


"Wabash Willie" <> wrote in message
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> Vista Home Premium. Sorry to say.
>
> How can I gain FullControl of my machine? I have turned off UAC. There is
> only 1 account. That's me, and I'm the Administrator. I right-click on
> Documents and Settings in Explorer (or whatever it's called now) and I get
> "Access Denied?".
>
> I am NOT interested in Microsoft's idea of security. I want absolute
> control
> of every file on my machine. If I can't have control, the machine is
> useless
> to me.
> --
> Willie


 
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      03-03-2008

Wabash Willie;633292 Wrote:
> Vista Home Premium. Sorry to say.
>
> How can I gain FullControl of my machine? I have turned off UAC. Ther
> is
> only 1 account. That's me, and I'm the Administrator. I right-click on
> Documents and Settings in Explorer (or whatever it's called now) and
> get
> "Access Denied?".
>
> I am NOT interested in Microsoft's idea of security. I want absolut
> control
> of every file on my machine. If I can't have control, the machine i
> useless
> to me.
> --
> Willie


Welcome to the forums!

Are you using an account you have as your own, with administrato
access or are you using the built it (hidden) administrator account

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      03-03-2008

Wabash Willie;633292 Wrote:
> Vista Home Premium. Sorry to say
>
> How can I gain FullControl of my machine? I have turned off UAC. Ther
> i
> only 1 account. That's me, and I'm the Administrator. I right-click o
> Documents and Settings in Explorer (or whatever it's called now) and
> ge
> "Access Denied?"
>
> I am NOT interested in Microsoft's idea of security. I want absolut
> contro
> of every file on my machine. If I can't have control, the machine i
> useles
> to me
> -
> Willi


Hi Willie

For complete control, you will need to use the built-in Administrato
account. This will show you how

http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/67...or-account.htm

However, you may still need to take ownership of some system files t
modify or delete them. This will show you how

http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/67...rship-file.htm

Shaw

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Wabash Willie
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      03-03-2008
Thanks, So now I can find the Local Settings folder, but I get "Access
Denied" when trying to open it. I went to the website you mentioned and
opened the Run command and type in the command line, and all I got was
another Explorer window. So I did a search on the C: drive for
junctionpoints.txt and it came up empty.

No one should need to go through these machinations just to be able to
selectively copy or delete temporary internet files.

So what now?

TIA
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"Ronnie Vernon MVP" wrote:

> Wabash
>
> What you are describing here has nothing to do with you having 'full
> control' on your machine? If you indeed want 'full control', you first need
> to learn how the new operating system works.
>
> The default name and location of some user folders has changed in Vista. The
> "My" designation has been retired.
>
> The folders you are seeing (My Music, My Pictures, My Videos, etc) are not
> real folders, they are called Junctions and they are there for compatibility
> purposes only. These junctions will redirect any older program or
> application installations to the new location in Vista. You can identify
> these junctions by the shortcut arrow that appears on the folder icon.
>
> Example: The C:\Documents and Settings folder is now called C:\Users.
> Example: The My Documents folder is now simply called Documents. It still
> appears under the Users/username folder.
>
> It's very important to understand that these junctions do not contain any
> useful information and should not be opened or used like a regular folder.
>
> There is a website that explains this in detail and has a list of the old
> folders that you saw in XP with their new names/locations in Vista.
>
> Windows Vista Junction Points:
> http://www.svrops.com/svrops/articles/jpoints.htm
>
> --
>
> Ronnie Vernon
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Desktop Experience
>
>
> "Wabash Willie" <> wrote in message
> news:39DE066F-610B-4A66-8178-...
> > Vista Home Premium. Sorry to say.
> >
> > How can I gain FullControl of my machine? I have turned off UAC. There is
> > only 1 account. That's me, and I'm the Administrator. I right-click on
> > Documents and Settings in Explorer (or whatever it's called now) and I get
> > "Access Denied?".
> >
> > I am NOT interested in Microsoft's idea of security. I want absolute
> > control
> > of every file on my machine. If I can't have control, the machine is
> > useless
> > to me.
> > --
> > Willie

>

 
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      03-03-2008
Joe wrote:
> Welcome to the forums!
>
> Are you using an account you have as your own, with administrator
> access or are you using the built it (hidden) administrator account?


Thanks,

Yes, I'm using my account as administrator. I can't even find the (hidden)
built in account. If I could, I'd take ownership of everything on the machine
<lol>
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Wabash Willie
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      03-03-2008
"Brink" wrote:

> For complete control, you will need to use the built-in Administrator
> account. This will show you how.
>
> http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/67...r-account.html


That link gives me a 404 error

> However, you may still need to take ownership of some system files to
> modify or delete them. This will show you how.
>
> http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/67...ship-file.html


Thanks,
I'll have a look
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      03-03-2008

"Wabash Willie" wrote:

> > http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/67...r-account.html

>
> That link gives me a 404 error


OK, the server must have been busy. It works fine now.

Thanks,

Willie
 
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      03-03-2008

Wabash Willie;633433 Wrote:
> "Wabash Willie" wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> > > That link gives me a 404 error > >

>
> OK, the server must have been busy. It works fine now.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Willie


Your welcome Willie. We are pretty busy today.


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Ronnie Vernon MVP
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      03-04-2008
Wabash

Don't use the 'Run box' to open the command prompt.

Go to Start and type cmd.exe in the search box. In the results, right click
cmd.exe and select the Run As Administrator option. In the command prompt
window, paste the following command.

C:\>dir /aL /s > c:\users\<username>\JunctionPoints.txt

(Replace <username> with the name of your account.)

Press Enter.

Open Windows Explorer and click your user account folder. The
JunctionPoints.txt file should be there.

On that web page, there is a list of all the default junction points on the
system.

The bottom line is that you need to ignore the folders that you see that
have the large 'shortcut arrow' attached to them.

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"Wabash Willie" <> wrote in message
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> Thanks, So now I can find the Local Settings folder, but I get "Access
> Denied" when trying to open it. I went to the website you mentioned and
> opened the Run command and type in the command line, and all I got was
> another Explorer window. So I did a search on the C: drive for
> junctionpoints.txt and it came up empty.
>
> No one should need to go through these machinations just to be able to
> selectively copy or delete temporary internet files.
>
> So what now?
>
> TIA
> --
> Willie
>
>
> "Ronnie Vernon MVP" wrote:
>
>> Wabash
>>
>> What you are describing here has nothing to do with you having 'full
>> control' on your machine? If you indeed want 'full control', you first
>> need
>> to learn how the new operating system works.
>>
>> The default name and location of some user folders has changed in Vista.
>> The
>> "My" designation has been retired.
>>
>> The folders you are seeing (My Music, My Pictures, My Videos, etc) are
>> not
>> real folders, they are called Junctions and they are there for
>> compatibility
>> purposes only. These junctions will redirect any older program or
>> application installations to the new location in Vista. You can identify
>> these junctions by the shortcut arrow that appears on the folder icon.
>>
>> Example: The C:\Documents and Settings folder is now called C:\Users.
>> Example: The My Documents folder is now simply called Documents. It still
>> appears under the Users/username folder.
>>
>> It's very important to understand that these junctions do not contain any
>> useful information and should not be opened or used like a regular
>> folder.
>>
>> There is a website that explains this in detail and has a list of the old
>> folders that you saw in XP with their new names/locations in Vista.
>>
>> Windows Vista Junction Points:
>> http://www.svrops.com/svrops/articles/jpoints.htm
>>
>> --
>>
>> Ronnie Vernon
>> Microsoft MVP
>> Windows Desktop Experience
>>
>>
>> "Wabash Willie" <> wrote in message
>> news:39DE066F-610B-4A66-8178-...
>> > Vista Home Premium. Sorry to say.
>> >
>> > How can I gain FullControl of my machine? I have turned off UAC. There
>> > is
>> > only 1 account. That's me, and I'm the Administrator. I right-click on
>> > Documents and Settings in Explorer (or whatever it's called now) and I
>> > get
>> > "Access Denied?".
>> >
>> > I am NOT interested in Microsoft's idea of security. I want absolute
>> > control
>> > of every file on my machine. If I can't have control, the machine is
>> > useless
>> > to me.
>> > --
>> > Willie

>>


 
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