Access denied TO XP-partition folders from Vista on dual-boot machine

Just when, thanks to EasyBCD and wonderful support on their forum, I
thought I was near to resolution of the infamous loss-of-Vista-restore-
point problem, a new, unexpected, and really nasty problem has reared
its head.

Whenever I try to write from Vista to a folder on the XP partition I
get an access-denied error. Now I wouldn't have been surprised at
problems writing from XP to folders on the Vista system partition
(although I haven't tried that yet and I have no problem accessing
Vista folders (not junction points) by network shares from other
machines running XP). But I really am surprised at this access
problem.

I checked the most obvious things, permissions, read-only, etc. but I
can't see anything that would account for this behavior.

Does anyone have any idea why this is happening and how to fix it????

Thanks in advance.

Have you assign permissions in the Security tab? This search result may help,

Vista Permission IssuesPost Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 5:14 am Post subject: How to: check permissions using Vista icacls command, Reply with quote . ...
http://www.chicagotech.net/vista/vistapermission.htm


Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
<> wrote in message news: ups.com...
Just when, thanks to EasyBCD and wonderful support on their forum, I
thought I was near to resolution of the infamous loss-of-Vista-restore-
point problem, a new, unexpected, and really nasty problem has reared
its head.

Whenever I try to write from Vista to a folder on the XP partition I
get an access-denied error. Now I wouldn't have been surprised at
problems writing from XP to folders on the Vista system partition
(although I haven't tried that yet and I have no problem accessing
Vista folders (not junction points) by network shares from other
machines running XP). But I really am surprised at this access
problem.

I checked the most obvious things, permissions, read-only, etc. but I
can't see anything that would account for this behavior.

Does anyone have any idea why this is happening and how to fix it????

Thanks in advance.

On Jul 3, 1:01 pm, "Robert L [MVP - Networking]" <nore...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> Have you assign permissions in the Security tab?



Tried the cacls--looks alright to me but something is very strange
here. From within these folders read-only is set for some files and
even if I remove it globally for a folder, it reappears. Also, and
even more strangely, there is NO security tab on any folders anywhere
when they are viewed from within XP!

This search result may help,
>
> Vista Permission IssuesPost Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 5:14 am Post subject: How to: check permissions using Vista icacls command, Reply with quote . ...
> http://www.chicagotech.net/vista/vistapermission.htm
>
> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting onhttp://www.ChicagoTech.net
> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access onhttp://www.HowToNetworking.com <paque...@uwo.ca> wrote in messagenews: oglegroups.com...
>
> Just when, thanks to EasyBCD and wonderful support on their forum, I
> thought I was near to resolution of the infamous loss-of-Vista-restore-
> point problem, a new, unexpected, and really nasty problem has reared
> its head.
>
> Whenever I try to write from Vista to a folder on the XP partition I
> get an access-denied error. Now I wouldn't have been surprised at
> problems writing from XP to folders on the Vista system partition
> (although I haven't tried that yet and I have no problem accessing
> Vista folders (not junction points) by network shares from other
> machines running XP). But I really am surprised at this access
> problem.
>
> I checked the most obvious things, permissions, read-only, etc. but I
> can't see anything that would account for this behavior.
>
> Does anyone have any idea why this is happening and how to fix it????
>
> Thanks in advance.

I turned off simple-file sharing in XP but that doesn't help--but, of
course, it puts the security tab back in XP!

On Jul 3, 5:08 pm, "no_spam_paque...@uwo.ca" <paque...@uwo.ca> wrote:
> On Jul 3, 1:01 pm, "Robert L [MVP - Networking]" <nore...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Have you assign permissions in the Security tab?
>
> Tried the cacls--looks alright to me but something is very strange
> here. From within these folders read-only is set for some files and
> even if I remove it globally for a folder, it reappears. Also, and
> even more strangely, there is NO security tab on any folders anywhere
> when they are viewed from within XP!
>
> This search result may help,
>
>
>
>
>
> > Vista Permission IssuesPost Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 5:14 am Post subject: How to: check permissions using Vista icacls command, Reply with quote . ...
> > http://www.chicagotech.net/vista/vistapermission.htm
>
> > Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> > Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting onhttp://www.ChicagoTech.net
> > How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access onhttp://www.HowToNetworking.com <paque...@uwo.ca> wrote in messagenews: oglegroups.com...
>
> > Just when, thanks to EasyBCD and wonderful support on their forum, I
> > thought I was near to resolution of the infamous loss-of-Vista-restore-
> > point problem, a new, unexpected, and really nasty problem has reared
> > its head.
>
> > Whenever I try to write from Vista to a folder on the XP partition I
> > get an access-denied error. Now I wouldn't have been surprised at
> > problems writing from XP to folders on the Vista system partition
> > (although I haven't tried that yet and I have no problem accessing
> > Vista folders (not junction points) by network shares from other
> > machines running XP). But I really am surprised at this access
> > problem.
>
> > I checked the most obvious things, permissions, read-only, etc. but I
> > can't see anything that would account for this behavior.
>
> > Does anyone have any idea why this is happening and how to fix it????
>
> > Thanks in advance.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

icacls yields the following for a folder on the XP machine:

e:\program files\endnote BUILTIN\UsersI)(RX)
BUILTIN\UsersI)(OI)(CI)(IO)(GR,GE)
BUILTIN\Power UsersI)(M)
BUILTIN\Power UsersI)(OI)(CI)(IO)(M)
BUILTIN\AdministratorsI)(F)
BUILTIN\AdministratorsI)(OI)(CI)(IO)(F)
NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEMI)(F)
NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEMI)(OI)(CI)(IO)(F)
No mapping between account names and security
IDs was done.
(I)(F)
CREATOR OWNERI)(OI)(CI)(IO)(F)


On Jul 3, 5:46 pm, "no_spam_paque...@uwo.ca" <paque...@uwo.ca> wrote:
> I turned off simple-file sharing in XP but that doesn't help--but, of
> course, it puts the security tab back in XP!
>
> On Jul 3, 5:08 pm, "no_spam_paque...@uwo.ca" <paque...@uwo.ca> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jul 3, 1:01 pm, "Robert L [MVP - Networking]" <nore...@hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > Have you assign permissions in the Security tab?
>
> > Tried the cacls--looks alright to me but something is very strange
> > here. From within these folders read-only is set for some files and
> > even if I remove it globally for a folder, it reappears. Also, and
> > even more strangely, there is NO security tab on any folders anywhere
> > when they are viewed from within XP!
>
> > This search result may help,
>
> > > Vista Permission IssuesPost Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 5:14 am Post subject: How to: check permissions using Vista icacls command, Reply with quote . ...
> > > http://www.chicagotech.net/vista/vistapermission.htm
>
> > > Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> > > Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting onhttp://www.ChicagoTech.net
> > > How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access onhttp://www.HowToNetworking.com<paque...@uwo.ca> wrote in messagenews: oglegroups.com...
>
> > > Just when, thanks to EasyBCD and wonderful support on their forum, I
> > > thought I was near to resolution of the infamous loss-of-Vista-restore-
> > > point problem, a new, unexpected, and really nasty problem has reared
> > > its head.
>
> > > Whenever I try to write from Vista to a folder on the XP partition I
> > > get an access-denied error. Now I wouldn't have been surprised at
> > > problems writing from XP to folders on the Vista system partition
> > > (although I haven't tried that yet and I have no problem accessing
> > > Vista folders (not junction points) by network shares from other
> > > machines running XP). But I really am surprised at this access
> > > problem.
>
> > > I checked the most obvious things, permissions, read-only, etc. but I
> > > can't see anything that would account for this behavior.
>
> > > Does anyone have any idea why this is happening and how to fix it????
>
> > > Thanks in advance.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Okay--I've discovered that for an application to write from Vista to
any of the folders on the XP partition it must be logged on as
Administrator in Vista. If I start any application explicitly as
administrator in Vista, it can then write to folders there. My
problem is I want to give MirrorFolder service administrator privilege
so it can mirror to folders on the XP partition So how can I give
MirrorFolder blanket Administrator privilege in Vista???

I tried resetting MirrorFolder service log on as Administrator but no
luck.

On Jul 3, 6:41 pm, "no_spam_paque...@uwo.ca" <paque...@uwo.ca> wrote:
> icacls yields the following for a folder on the XP machine:
>
> e:\program files\endnote BUILTIN\UsersI)(RX)
> BUILTIN\UsersI)(OI)(CI)(IO)(GR,GE)
> BUILTIN\Power UsersI)(M)
> BUILTIN\Power UsersI)(OI)(CI)(IO)(M)
> BUILTIN\AdministratorsI)(F)
> BUILTIN\AdministratorsI)(OI)(CI)(IO)(F)
> NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEMI)(F)
> NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEMI)(OI)(CI)(IO)(F)
> No mapping between account names and security
> IDs was done.
> (I)(F)
> CREATOR OWNERI)(OI)(CI)(IO)(F)
>
> On Jul 3, 5:46 pm, "no_spam_paque...@uwo.ca" <paque...@uwo.ca> wrote:
>
> > I turned off simple-file sharing in XP but that doesn't help--but, of
> > course, it puts the security tab back in XP!
>
> > On Jul 3, 5:08 pm, "no_spam_paque...@uwo.ca" <paque...@uwo.ca> wrote:
>
> > > On Jul 3, 1:01 pm, "Robert L [MVP - Networking]" <nore...@hotmail.com>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > Have you assign permissions in the Security tab?
>
> > > Tried the cacls--looks alright to me but something is very strange
> > > here. From within these folders read-only is set for some files and
> > > even if I remove it globally for a folder, it reappears. Also, and
> > > even more strangely, there is NO security tab on any folders anywhere
> > > when they are viewed from within XP!
>
> > > This search result may help,
>
> > > > Vista Permission IssuesPost Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 5:14 am Post subject: How to: check permissions using Vista icacls command, Reply with quote . ...
> > > > http://www.chicagotech.net/vista/vistapermission.htm
>
> > > > Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> > > > Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting onhttp://www.ChicagoTech.net
> > > > How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access onhttp://www.HowToNetworking.com<paque...@uwo.ca> wrote in messagenews: oglegroups.com...
>
> > > > Just when, thanks to EasyBCD and wonderful support on their forum, I
> > > > thought I was near to resolution of the infamous loss-of-Vista-restore-
> > > > point problem, a new, unexpected, and really nasty problem has reared
> > > > its head.
>
> > > > Whenever I try to write from Vista to a folder on the XP partition I
> > > > get an access-denied error. Now I wouldn't have been surprised at
> > > > problems writing from XP to folders on the Vista system partition
> > > > (although I haven't tried that yet and I have no problem accessing
> > > > Vista folders (not junction points) by network shares from other
> > > > machines running XP). But I really am surprised at this access
> > > > problem.
>
> > > > I checked the most obvious things, permissions, read-only, etc. but I
> > > > can't see anything that would account for this behavior.
>
> > > > Does anyone have any idea why this is happening and how to fix it????
>
> > > > Thanks in advance.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -

Okay--I've got it. I set the MirrorFolder application to always run
at elevated UAC and it now has no problem writing to folders on the XP
partition!

See:

http://technet2.microsoft.com/Window....mspx?mfr=true

On Jul 3, 7:30 pm, "no_spam_paque...@uwo.ca" <paque...@uwo.ca> wrote:
> Okay--I've discovered that for an application to write from Vista to
> any of the folders on the XP partition it must be logged on as
> Administrator in Vista. If I start any application explicitly as
> administrator in Vista, it can then write to folders there. My
> problem is I want to give MirrorFolder service administrator privilege
> so it can mirror to folders on the XP partition So how can I give
> MirrorFolder blanket Administrator privilege in Vista???
>
> I tried resetting MirrorFolder service log on as Administrator but no
> luck.
>
> On Jul 3, 6:41 pm, "no_spam_paque...@uwo.ca" <paque...@uwo.ca> wrote:
>
> > icacls yields the following for a folder on the XP machine:
>
> > e:\program files\endnote BUILTIN\UsersI)(RX)
> > BUILTIN\UsersI)(OI)(CI)(IO)(GR,GE)
> > BUILTIN\Power UsersI)(M)
> > BUILTIN\Power UsersI)(OI)(CI)(IO)(M)
> > BUILTIN\AdministratorsI)(F)
> > BUILTIN\AdministratorsI)(OI)(CI)(IO)(F)
> > NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEMI)(F)
> > NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEMI)(OI)(CI)(IO)(F)
> > No mapping between account names and security
> > IDs was done.
> > (I)(F)
> > CREATOR OWNERI)(OI)(CI)(IO)(F)
>
> > On Jul 3, 5:46 pm, "no_spam_paque...@uwo.ca" <paque...@uwo.ca> wrote:
>
> > > I turned off simple-file sharing in XP but that doesn't help--but, of
> > > course, it puts the security tab back in XP!
>
> > > On Jul 3, 5:08 pm, "no_spam_paque...@uwo.ca" <paque...@uwo.ca> wrote:
>
> > > > On Jul 3, 1:01 pm, "Robert L [MVP - Networking]" <nore...@hotmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > Have you assign permissions in the Security tab?
>
> > > > Tried the cacls--looks alright to me but something is very strange
> > > > here. From within these folders read-only is set for some files and
> > > > even if I remove it globally for a folder, it reappears. Also, and
> > > > even more strangely, there is NO security tab on any folders anywhere
> > > > when they are viewed from within XP!
>
> > > > This search result may help,
>
> > > > > Vista Permission IssuesPost Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 5:14 am Post subject: How to: check permissions using Vista icacls command, Reply with quote . ...
> > > > > http://www.chicagotech.net/vista/vistapermission.htm
>
> > > > > Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> > > > > Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting onhttp://www.ChicagoTech.net
> > > > > How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access onhttp://www.HowToNetworking.com<paque...@uwo.ca> wrote in messagenews: oglegroups.com...
>
> > > > > Just when, thanks to EasyBCD and wonderful support on their forum, I
> > > > > thought I was near to resolution of the infamous loss-of-Vista-restore-
> > > > > point problem, a new, unexpected, and really nasty problem has reared
> > > > > its head.
>
> > > > > Whenever I try to write from Vista to a folder on the XP partition I
> > > > > get an access-denied error. Now I wouldn't have been surprised at
> > > > > problems writing from XP to folders on the Vista system partition
> > > > > (although I haven't tried that yet and I have no problem accessing
> > > > > Vista folders (not junction points) by network shares from other
> > > > > machines running XP). But I really am surprised at this access
> > > > > problem.
>
> > > > > I checked the most obvious things, permissions, read-only, etc. but I
> > > > > can't see anything that would account for this behavior.
>
> > > > > Does anyone have any idea why this is happening and how to fix it????
>
> > > > > Thanks in advance.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -

Thank you for the update.

Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
<> wrote in message news: oups.com...
Okay--I've got it. I set the MirrorFolder application to always run
at elevated UAC and it now has no problem writing to folders on the XP
partition!

See:

http://technet2.microsoft.com/Window....mspx?mfr=true

On Jul 3, 7:30 pm, "no_spam_paque...@uwo.ca" <paque...@uwo.ca> wrote:
> Okay--I've discovered that for an application to write from Vista to
> any of the folders on the XP partition it must be logged on as
> Administrator in Vista. If I start any application explicitly as
> administrator in Vista, it can then write to folders there. My
> problem is I want to give MirrorFolder service administrator privilege
> so it can mirror to folders on the XP partition So how can I give
> MirrorFolder blanket Administrator privilege in Vista???
>
> I tried resetting MirrorFolder service log on as Administrator but no
> luck.
>
> On Jul 3, 6:41 pm, "no_spam_paque...@uwo.ca" <paque...@uwo.ca> wrote:
>
> > icacls yields the following for a folder on the XP machine:
>
> > e:\program files\endnote BUILTIN\UsersI)(RX)
> > BUILTIN\UsersI)(OI)(CI)(IO)(GR,GE)
> > BUILTIN\Power UsersI)(M)
> > BUILTIN\Power UsersI)(OI)(CI)(IO)(M)
> > BUILTIN\AdministratorsI)(F)
> > BUILTIN\AdministratorsI)(OI)(CI)(IO)(F)
> > NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEMI)(F)
> > NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEMI)(OI)(CI)(IO)(F)
> > No mapping between account names and security
> > IDs was done.
> > (I)(F)
> > CREATOR OWNERI)(OI)(CI)(IO)(F)
>
> > On Jul 3, 5:46 pm, "no_spam_paque...@uwo.ca" <paque...@uwo.ca> wrote:
>
> > > I turned off simple-file sharing in XP but that doesn't help--but, of
> > > course, it puts the security tab back in XP!
>
> > > On Jul 3, 5:08 pm, "no_spam_paque...@uwo.ca" <paque...@uwo.ca> wrote:
>
> > > > On Jul 3, 1:01 pm, "Robert L [MVP - Networking]" <nore...@hotmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > Have you assign permissions in the Security tab?
>
> > > > Tried the cacls--looks alright to me but something is very strange
> > > > here. From within these folders read-only is set for some files and
> > > > even if I remove it globally for a folder, it reappears. Also, and
> > > > even more strangely, there is NO security tab on any folders anywhere
> > > > when they are viewed from within XP!
>
> > > > This search result may help,
>
> > > > > Vista Permission IssuesPost Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 5:14 am Post subject: How to: check permissions using Vista icacls command, Reply with quote . ...
> > > > > http://www.chicagotech.net/vista/vistapermission.htm
>
> > > > > Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> > > > > Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting onhttp://www.ChicagoTech.net
> > > > > How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access onhttp://www.HowToNetworking.com<paque...@uwo.ca> wrote in messagenews: oglegroups.com...
>
> > > > > Just when, thanks to EasyBCD and wonderful support on their forum, I
> > > > > thought I was near to resolution of the infamous loss-of-Vista-restore-
> > > > > point problem, a new, unexpected, and really nasty problem has reared
> > > > > its head.
>
> > > > > Whenever I try to write from Vista to a folder on the XP partition I
> > > > > get an access-denied error. Now I wouldn't have been surprised at
> > > > > problems writing from XP to folders on the Vista system partition
> > > > > (although I haven't tried that yet and I have no problem accessing
> > > > > Vista folders (not junction points) by network shares from other
> > > > > machines running XP). But I really am surprised at this access
> > > > > problem.
>
> > > > > I checked the most obvious things, permissions, read-only, etc. but I
> > > > > can't see anything that would account for this behavior.
>
> > > > > Does anyone have any idea why this is happening and how to fix it????
>
> > > > > Thanks in advance.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -