Activation Hell (cross post from installation_setup)

Yeah that sucks, there must be a solution to that! Will cross post it to
general community newsgroup where more folks are active and maybe someone
will find you an answer... I can imagine quite a few will relish discussing
this...

"Guido" <> wrote in message
news:A0F31B39-C707-4F30-8734-...
> Hello,
>
> I installed yesterday Windows Vista Ultimate 64bit and activated it right
> after.
> Everything looked good.
>
> Today I saw that the system thinks I have to Activate in 2 Days!!
>
> I tried over the Internet but Vista said, my key where allready
> registered.
> So I called Microsoft and aktivated again.
>
> Curious i began to explore the System Logs and i found in the Information
> logs all 5 Minutes
>
> Source Security-Licensing-SLC 1025 and 1024
>
> Message: Hardware Changed and Activation Greed Time.
>
> After searching and trying I found out that this message disapears when i
> turn on my external USB-Disk!!!!!!
>
> But as soon i Turn of the external USB-Disk i get again this messages and
> i'm pretty sure i need soon to call Microsoft again for re-activation!!
>
> Please Fix that bug!
>
>

If you turn on your External USB HD then obviously Windows Vista detects a hardware change. Each and every time you do open Vista with the USB HD turned off it will detect a change and this goes for when you open with the ESB HD.

To avoid this activate with the USB HD connected and on and leave it on. If you shut it off and then you boot without it being on you will go through the same cycle. One or the other.

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"Mac" <> wrote in message news:182D282D-136F-4F4E-AAFE-...
> Yeah that sucks, there must be a solution to that! Will cross post it to
> general community newsgroup where more folks are active and maybe someone
> will find you an answer... I can imagine quite a few will relish discussing
> this...
>
> "Guido" <> wrote in message
> news:A0F31B39-C707-4F30-8734-...
>> Hello,
>>
>> I installed yesterday Windows Vista Ultimate 64bit and activated it right
>> after.
>> Everything looked good.
>>
>> Today I saw that the system thinks I have to Activate in 2 Days!!
>>
>> I tried over the Internet but Vista said, my key where allready
>> registered.
>> So I called Microsoft and aktivated again.
>>
>> Curious i began to explore the System Logs and i found in the Information
>> logs all 5 Minutes
>>
>> Source Security-Licensing-SLC 1025 and 1024
>>
>> Message: Hardware Changed and Activation Greed Time.
>>
>> After searching and trying I found out that this message disapears when i
>> turn on my external USB-Disk!!!!!!
>>
>> But as soon i Turn of the external USB-Disk i get again this messages and
>> i'm pretty sure i need soon to call Microsoft again for re-activation!!
>>
>> Please Fix that bug!
>>
>>

So with Vista, normal computer useage requires reactivation. Why doesn't
that surprise me?

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"Peter Foldes" <> wrote in message
news:...
If you turn on your External USB HD then obviously Windows Vista detects a
hardware change. Each and every time you do open Vista with the USB HD
turned off it will detect a change and this goes for when you open with the
ESB HD.

To avoid this activate with the USB HD connected and on and leave it on. If
you shut it off and then you boot without it being on you will go through
the same cycle. One or the other.

--
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"Mac" <> wrote in message
news:182D282D-136F-4F4E-AAFE-...
> Yeah that sucks, there must be a solution to that! Will cross post it to
> general community newsgroup where more folks are active and maybe someone
> will find you an answer... I can imagine quite a few will relish
> discussing
> this...
>
> "Guido" <> wrote in message
> news:A0F31B39-C707-4F30-8734-...
>> Hello,
>>
>> I installed yesterday Windows Vista Ultimate 64bit and activated it right
>> after.
>> Everything looked good.
>>
>> Today I saw that the system thinks I have to Activate in 2 Days!!
>>
>> I tried over the Internet but Vista said, my key where allready
>> registered.
>> So I called Microsoft and aktivated again.
>>
>> Curious i began to explore the System Logs and i found in the Information
>> logs all 5 Minutes
>>
>> Source Security-Licensing-SLC 1025 and 1024
>>
>> Message: Hardware Changed and Activation Greed Time.
>>
>> After searching and trying I found out that this message disapears when i
>> turn on my external USB-Disk!!!!!!
>>
>> But as soon i Turn of the external USB-Disk i get again this messages and
>> i'm pretty sure i need soon to call Microsoft again for re-activation!!
>>
>> Please Fix that bug!
>>
>>

"NotMe" <> wrote in message
news:...
> So with Vista, normal computer useage requires reactivation. Why doesn't
> that surprise me?
>
I have three external hard drives, one I didn't own when I initially install
Vista and is of a different hardware type than the other two and those two
weren't turned on when I activated and I've never gotten a prompt from Vista
when I turn any of them on or whether or not I boot with any of them on. To
be clear however, I don't have an OEM version of Vista but I'm not sure that
should make a difference either.

If you're running Vista, you already would have mentioned such an issue if
it was happening to you.

I don't have any idea what is causing it to trigger activation and it's
possible Peter's solution might otherwise allow the OP to run "normal" as
you put it because if the devices are turned off, it won't make any
difference and if they are turned on and the system was activated with those
devices recognized initially, then he probably won't have any more trouble.

--
Michael Solomon
Backup is a PC user's best friend
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Peter Foldes wrote:
> If you turn on your External USB HD then obviously Windows Vista
> detects a hardware change. Each and every time you do open Vista
> with the USB HD turned off it will detect a change and this goes
> for when you open with the ESB HD.
>
> To avoid this activate with the USB HD connected and on and leave
> it on. If you shut it off and then you boot without it being on
> you will go through the same cycle. One or the other.
>

OK, that's too much. Not even MS is that stupid to build activation to
behave so, at least I have a hard time swallowing it. That has to be a
bug. I can't imagine that they would build it that way by design. They
would totally be shooting themselves in the foot by doing it this way.


"Mac" <> wrote in message
news:182D282D-136F-4F4E-AAFE-...
> > Yeah that sucks, there must be a solution to that! Will cross post
it to
> > general community newsgroup where more folks are active and maybe
someone
> > will find you an answer... I can imagine quite a few will relish
discussing
> > this...
> >
> > "Guido" <> wrote in message
> > news:A0F31B39-C707-4F30-8734-...
>> >> Hello,
>> >>
>> >> I installed yesterday Windows Vista Ultimate 64bit and activated
it right
>> >> after.
>> >> Everything looked good.
>> >>
>> >> Today I saw that the system thinks I have to Activate in 2 Days!!
>> >>
>> >> I tried over the Internet but Vista said, my key where allready
>> >> registered.
>> >> So I called Microsoft and aktivated again.
>> >>
>> >> Curious i began to explore the System Logs and i found in the
Information
>> >> logs all 5 Minutes
>> >>
>> >> Source Security-Licensing-SLC 1025 and 1024
>> >>
>> >> Message: Hardware Changed and Activation Greed Time.
>> >>
>> >> After searching and trying I found out that this message
disapears when i
>> >> turn on my external USB-Disk!!!!!!
>> >>
>> >> But as soon i Turn of the external USB-Disk i get again this
messages and
>> >> i'm pretty sure i need soon to call Microsoft again for
re-activation!!
>> >>
>> >> Please Fix that bug!
>> >>
>> >>




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">
> OK, that's too much. Not even MS is that stupid to build activation to
> behave so, at least I have a hard time swallowing it. That has to be a
> bug. I can't imagine that they would build it that way by design. They
> would totally be shooting themselves in the foot by doing it this way.
>
Check the following Knowledge Base article as it may help resolve the issue.
Even if you don't have an OEM version as referenced in the title, there's
some information in this article that not only might explain the issue but
might also help resolve it regardless:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/931573/en-us
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Hello Mac,

at the moment i'm not anylonger sure if that the messages realy stop when i
activate the external USB drive. In the first place it looked like that
because the message took longer to come again. But finaly they came...

Here the Eventlog...sorry in german:

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21:11:24 Microsoft-Windows-Security-Licensing-SLC 1024 Keine Die Hardware hat
sich geändert.
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sich geändert.
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sich geändert.
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sich geändert.
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"Mac" wrote:

> Yeah that sucks, there must be a solution to that! Will cross post it to
> general community newsgroup where more folks are active and maybe someone
> will find you an answer... I can imagine quite a few will relish discussing
> this...
>
> "Guido" <> wrote in message
> news:A0F31B39-C707-4F30-8734-...
> > Hello,
> >
> > I installed yesterday Windows Vista Ultimate 64bit and activated it right
> > after.
> > Everything looked good.
> >
> > Today I saw that the system thinks I have to Activate in 2 Days!!
> >
> > I tried over the Internet but Vista said, my key where allready
> > registered.
> > So I called Microsoft and aktivated again.
> >
> > Curious i began to explore the System Logs and i found in the Information
> > logs all 5 Minutes
> >
> > Source Security-Licensing-SLC 1025 and 1024
> >
> > Message: Hardware Changed and Activation Greed Time.
> >
> > After searching and trying I found out that this message disapears when i
> > turn on my external USB-Disk!!!!!!
> >
> > But as soon i Turn of the external USB-Disk i get again this messages and
> > i'm pretty sure i need soon to call Microsoft again for re-activation!!
> >
> > Please Fix that bug!
> >
> >

On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 22:44:32 -0500, The poster formerly known as Nina
DiBoy wrote:

> Peter Foldes wrote:
>> If you turn on your External USB HD then obviously Windows Vista
> > detects a hardware change. Each and every time you do open Vista
> > with the USB HD turned off it will detect a change and this goes
> > for when you open with the ESB HD.
>>
>> To avoid this activate with the USB HD connected and on and leave
> > it on. If you shut it off and then you boot without it being on
> > you will go through the same cycle. One or the other.
>>
>
> OK, that's too much. Not even MS is that stupid to build activation to
> behave so, at least I have a hard time swallowing it. That has to be a
> bug. I can't imagine that they would build it that way by design. They
> would totally be shooting themselves in the foot by doing it this way.

I just have 3 words to say in response:

"I love Ubuntu."

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Stephan Rose wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 22:44:32 -0500, The poster formerly known as Nina
> DiBoy wrote:
>
>> Peter Foldes wrote:
>>> If you turn on your External USB HD then obviously Windows Vista
>> > detects a hardware change. Each and every time you do open Vista
>> > with the USB HD turned off it will detect a change and this goes
>> > for when you open with the ESB HD.
>>> To avoid this activate with the USB HD connected and on and leave
>> > it on. If you shut it off and then you boot without it being on
>> > you will go through the same cycle. One or the other.
>> OK, that's too much. Not even MS is that stupid to build activation to
>> behave so, at least I have a hard time swallowing it. That has to be a
>> bug. I can't imagine that they would build it that way by design. They
>> would totally be shooting themselves in the foot by doing it this way.
>
> I just have 3 words to say in response:
>
> "I love Ubuntu."
>

I definately see alot of good things in Ubuntu, but I actually already
love Fedora.

I still think we would see more and hear more about this kind of problem
if WPA/WGA/N was built this way by design. I personally think that the
OP's DRM went buggy which is really not much better anyway.

--
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Most recent idiotic quote added to KICK (Klassic Idiotic Caption Kooks):
"They hacked the Microsoft website to make it think a linux box was a
windows box. Thats called hacking. People who do hacking are called
hackers."

"Good poets borrow; great poets steal."
- T. S. Eliot

On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 16:02:23 -0500, The poster formerly known as Nina
DiBoy wrote:

> Stephan Rose wrote:
>> On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 22:44:32 -0500, The poster formerly known as Nina
>> DiBoy wrote:
>>
>>> Peter Foldes wrote:
>>>> If you turn on your External USB HD then obviously Windows Vista
>>> > detects a hardware change. Each and every time you do open Vista
>>> > with the USB HD turned off it will detect a change and this goes
>>> > for when you open with the ESB HD.
>>>> To avoid this activate with the USB HD connected and on and leave
>>> > it on. If you shut it off and then you boot without it being on
>>> > you will go through the same cycle. One or the other.
>>> OK, that's too much. Not even MS is that stupid to build activation to
>>> behave so, at least I have a hard time swallowing it. That has to be a
>>> bug. I can't imagine that they would build it that way by design. They
>>> would totally be shooting themselves in the foot by doing it this way.
>>
>> I just have 3 words to say in response:
>>
>> "I love Ubuntu."
>>
>
> I definately see alot of good things in Ubuntu, but I actually already
> love Fedora.
>
> I still think we would see more and hear more about this kind of problem
> if WPA/WGA/N was built this way by design. I personally think that the
> OP's DRM went buggy which is really not much better anyway.
>

Well you know, stuff like that is why I refuse to run Vista though. I
simply can't risk running into problems like that at work. Hell, I don't
even want to boot into XP anymore. On that note...I actually haven't
booted into XP for about a week now at work. For some odd reason, my blood
pressure has been lower for about a week now too.

Coincidence?

I actually wonder if MS will implement any of their WGA/WPA/etc. into the
server 2008? I mean if so...who in their right mind would run a server
with it? Not that I consider it sane to run a server with *any* version of
windows but....just saying...

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