Activation Hell

Stephan Rose wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 22:44:32 -0500, The poster formerly known as Nina
> DiBoy wrote:
>
>> Peter Foldes wrote:
>>> If you turn on your External USB HD then obviously Windows Vista
>> > detects a hardware change. Each and every time you do open Vista
>> > with the USB HD turned off it will detect a change and this goes
>> > for when you open with the ESB HD.
>>> To avoid this activate with the USB HD connected and on and leave
>> > it on. If you shut it off and then you boot without it being on
>> > you will go through the same cycle. One or the other.
>> OK, that's too much. Not even MS is that stupid to build activation to
>> behave so, at least I have a hard time swallowing it. That has to be a
>> bug. I can't imagine that they would build it that way by design. They
>> would totally be shooting themselves in the foot by doing it this way.
>
> I just have 3 words to say in response:
>
> "I love Ubuntu."
>

I definately see alot of good things in Ubuntu, but I actually already
love Fedora.

I still think we would see more and hear more about this kind of problem
if WPA/WGA/N was built this way by design. I personally think that the
OP's DRM went buggy which is really not much better anyway.

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On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 16:02:23 -0500, The poster formerly known as Nina
DiBoy wrote:

> Stephan Rose wrote:
>> On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 22:44:32 -0500, The poster formerly known as Nina
>> DiBoy wrote:
>>
>>> Peter Foldes wrote:
>>>> If you turn on your External USB HD then obviously Windows Vista
>>> > detects a hardware change. Each and every time you do open Vista
>>> > with the USB HD turned off it will detect a change and this goes
>>> > for when you open with the ESB HD.
>>>> To avoid this activate with the USB HD connected and on and leave
>>> > it on. If you shut it off and then you boot without it being on
>>> > you will go through the same cycle. One or the other.
>>> OK, that's too much. Not even MS is that stupid to build activation to
>>> behave so, at least I have a hard time swallowing it. That has to be a
>>> bug. I can't imagine that they would build it that way by design. They
>>> would totally be shooting themselves in the foot by doing it this way.
>>
>> I just have 3 words to say in response:
>>
>> "I love Ubuntu."
>>
>
> I definately see alot of good things in Ubuntu, but I actually already
> love Fedora.
>
> I still think we would see more and hear more about this kind of problem
> if WPA/WGA/N was built this way by design. I personally think that the
> OP's DRM went buggy which is really not much better anyway.
>

Well you know, stuff like that is why I refuse to run Vista though. I
simply can't risk running into problems like that at work. Hell, I don't
even want to boot into XP anymore. On that note...I actually haven't
booted into XP for about a week now at work. For some odd reason, my blood
pressure has been lower for about a week now too.

Coincidence?

I actually wonder if MS will implement any of their WGA/WPA/etc. into the
server 2008? I mean if so...who in their right mind would run a server
with it? Not that I consider it sane to run a server with *any* version of
windows but....just saying...

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Stephan Rose wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 16:02:23 -0500, The poster formerly known as Nina
> DiBoy wrote:
>
>> Stephan Rose wrote:
>>> On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 22:44:32 -0500, The poster formerly known as Nina
>>> DiBoy wrote:
>>>
>>>> Peter Foldes wrote:
>>>>> If you turn on your External USB HD then obviously Windows Vista
>>>> > detects a hardware change. Each and every time you do open Vista
>>>> > with the USB HD turned off it will detect a change and this goes
>>>> > for when you open with the ESB HD.
>>>>> To avoid this activate with the USB HD connected and on and leave
>>>> > it on. If you shut it off and then you boot without it being on
>>>> > you will go through the same cycle. One or the other.
>>>> OK, that's too much. Not even MS is that stupid to build activation to
>>>> behave so, at least I have a hard time swallowing it. That has to be a
>>>> bug. I can't imagine that they would build it that way by design. They
>>>> would totally be shooting themselves in the foot by doing it this way.
>>> I just have 3 words to say in response:
>>>
>>> "I love Ubuntu."
>>>
>> I definately see alot of good things in Ubuntu, but I actually already
>> love Fedora.
>>
>> I still think we would see more and hear more about this kind of problem
>> if WPA/WGA/N was built this way by design. I personally think that the
>> OP's DRM went buggy which is really not much better anyway.
>>
>
> Well you know, stuff like that is why I refuse to run Vista though.

I'm on board there. I don't have vista installed or running at the
moment. I just removed it from a dual boot on my machine and I'm
planning to move it to a virtual machine soon, but no hurry. I have it
for only 2 reasons. It didn't cost me a dime, and I will unfortunately
be supporting it eventually.

> I
> simply can't risk running into problems like that at work. Hell, I don't
> even want to boot into XP anymore. On that note...I actually haven't
> booted into XP for about a week now at work. For some odd reason, my blood
> pressure has been lower for about a week now too.
>
> Coincidence?
>
> I actually wonder if MS will implement any of their WGA/WPA/etc. into the
> server 2008? I mean if so...who in their right mind would run a server
> with it? Not that I consider it sane to run a server with *any* version of
> windows but....just saying...
>

Sure they will, it goes without question. They did in windows server
2003, so I don't see why they wouldn't in server 2008.

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hackers."

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On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 11:37:43 -0500, The poster formerly known as Nina
DiBoy wrote:

>
> I'm on board there. I don't have vista installed or running at the
> moment. I just removed it from a dual boot on my machine and I'm
> planning to move it to a virtual machine soon, but no hurry. I have it
> for only 2 reasons. It didn't cost me a dime, and I will unfortunately
> be supporting it eventually.
>

Yea I will need to support it too unfortunately.

>
> Sure they will, it goes without question. They did in windows server
> 2003, so I don't see why they wouldn't in server 2008.
>

Yea but 2003 is pre-vista. So it doesn't randomly decide to require
reactivation. 2008 on the other hand...

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Guido

This behavior has been seen before and we are trying to collect information
on the cause.

One question, did you have the external USB hard drive plugged in when you
installed Vista?

Let me know, please.
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Windows Shell/User


"Guido" <> wrote in message
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> Hello,
>
> I installed yesterday Windows Vista Ultimate 64bit and activated it right
> after.
> Everything looked good.
>
> Today I saw that the system thinks I have to Activate in 2 Days!!
>
> I tried over the Internet but Vista said, my key where allready
> registered.
> So I called Microsoft and aktivated again.
>
> Curious i began to explore the System Logs and i found in the Information
> logs all 5 Minutes
>
> Source Security-Licensing-SLC 1025 and 1024
>
> Message: Hardware Changed and Activation Greed Time.
>
> After searching and trying I found out that this message disapears when i
> turn on my external USB-Disk!!!!!!
>
> But as soon i Turn of the external USB-Disk i get again this messages and
> i'm pretty sure i need soon to call Microsoft again for re-activation!!
>
> Please Fix that bug!
>
>