ADMT - How long does it take to run ?

Hi All

Please can someone help me with the query I have below.

We have a file server with approx 800GB of data that we have to migrate from
Domain A to Domain B in the same forest.

We want to use the ADMT but need to understand how long it may take ADMT to
run when translating security on the file server.

Is there a way of working out how long the ADMT may take to run or any time
estimations out there that someone may be aware of.

Thanks in advance.

Dan

> We have a file server with approx 800GB of data that we have to migrate
> from
> Domain A to Domain B in the same forest.
>
> We want to use the ADMT but need to understand how long it may take ADMT
> to
> run when translating security on the file server.


First off ADMT is for moving users, groups, and computers from one domain to
the other. Not Files.
For copying the files from one server to another you can use robocopy with
the correct switches.

Secondly, why don't you just remove the file server from the one domain and
add it to the other then set up permissions as you like?

hth
DDS



"Desparate Dan" <> wrote in message
newsABFB322-900A-4E0E-AA23-...
> Hi All
>
> Please can someone help me with the query I have below.
>
> We have a file server with approx 800GB of data that we have to migrate
> from
> Domain A to Domain B in the same forest.
>
> We want to use the ADMT but need to understand how long it may take ADMT
> to
> run when translating security on the file server.
>
> Is there a way of working out how long the ADMT may take to run or any
> time
> estimations out there that someone may be aware of.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Dan

Hi Y'all

Thanks Danny but we are not moving files from one server to another we are
performing a domain migration of a file server and keeping the file server
data on the same physical server as it is SAN attached..

Just to be clear in case my post is not clear, we want to migrate a
production file server that has 800GB of data from domain A to domain B in
the same forest. We have already migrated all users and workstations from
domain A to Domain B using ADMT successfully and now we want to migrate the
member servers over.

The file server with the 800GB of has over 50 shares and many sub folders
have been given different NTFS permissions.

We expect the ADMT to translate the security on shares and folders when we
use ADMT to migrate the file server from domain A to domain B and need to
work out how long this process will take.



Thanks in advance.

Dan




"Danny Sanders" wrote:

> > We have a file server with approx 800GB of data that we have to migrate
> > from
> > Domain A to Domain B in the same forest.
> >
> > We want to use the ADMT but need to understand how long it may take ADMT
> > to
> > run when translating security on the file server.
>
>
> First off ADMT is for moving users, groups, and computers from one domain to
> the other. Not Files.
> For copying the files from one server to another you can use robocopy with
> the correct switches.
>
> Secondly, why don't you just remove the file server from the one domain and
> add it to the other then set up permissions as you like?
>
> hth
> DDS
>
>
>
> "Desparate Dan" <> wrote in message
> newsABFB322-900A-4E0E-AA23-...
> > Hi All
> >
> > Please can someone help me with the query I have below.
> >
> > We have a file server with approx 800GB of data that we have to migrate
> > from
> > Domain A to Domain B in the same forest.
> >
> > We want to use the ADMT but need to understand how long it may take ADMT
> > to
> > run when translating security on the file server.
> >
> > Is there a way of working out how long the ADMT may take to run or any
> > time
> > estimations out there that someone may be aware of.
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Dan
>
>
>

Hello Desparate,

ADMT will also migrate the member server like the workstations. So there
shouldn't be an influence to the data and permissions. To prevent data loss
make a backup before.

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
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> Hi Y'all
>
> Thanks Danny but we are not moving files from one server to another we
> are performing a domain migration of a file server and keeping the
> file server data on the same physical server as it is SAN attached..
>
> Just to be clear in case my post is not clear, we want to migrate a
> production file server that has 800GB of data from domain A to domain
> B in the same forest. We have already migrated all users and
> workstations from domain A to Domain B using ADMT successfully and now
> we want to migrate the member servers over.
>
> The file server with the 800GB of has over 50 shares and many sub
> folders have been given different NTFS permissions.
>
> We expect the ADMT to translate the security on shares and folders
> when we use ADMT to migrate the file server from domain A to domain B
> and need to work out how long this process will take.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Dan
>
> "Danny Sanders" wrote:
>
>>> We have a file server with approx 800GB of data that we have to
>>> migrate
>>> from
>>> Domain A to Domain B in the same forest.
>>> We want to use the ADMT but need to understand how long it may take
>>> ADMT
>>> to
>>> run when translating security on the file server.
>> First off ADMT is for moving users, groups, and computers from one
>> domain to
>> the other. Not Files.
>> For copying the files from one server to another you can use robocopy
>> with
>> the correct switches.
>> Secondly, why don't you just remove the file server from the one
>> domain and add it to the other then set up permissions as you like?
>>
>> hth
>> DDS
>> "Desparate Dan" <> wrote in
>> message newsABFB322-900A-4E0E-AA23-...
>>
>>> Hi All
>>>
>>> Please can someone help me with the query I have below.
>>>
>>> We have a file server with approx 800GB of data that we have to
>>> migrate
>>> from
>>> Domain A to Domain B in the same forest.
>>> We want to use the ADMT but need to understand how long it may take
>>> ADMT
>>> to
>>> run when translating security on the file server.
>>> Is there a way of working out how long the ADMT may take to run or
>>> any
>>> time
>>> estimations out there that someone may be aware of.
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>
>>> Dan
>>>

Thank-You Meinolf for the information.

However we need to know how long the ADMT wil take to run on a file server
that has 800GB of file data on it when we migrate the file server from Domain
A to Domain B in the same Forest.

Does anyone know if there is a way of working out how long the ADMT wil take
to translate security on an 800GB file server or could soembody please share
with me their experiences using ADMT to do such a task.

Thanks in advance.

Dan


"Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" wrote:

> Hello Desparate,
>
> ADMT will also migrate the member server like the workstations. So there
> shouldn't be an influence to the data and permissions. To prevent data loss
> make a backup before.
>
> Best regards
>
> Meinolf Weber
> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
> no rights.
> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>
>
> > Hi Y'all
> >
> > Thanks Danny but we are not moving files from one server to another we
> > are performing a domain migration of a file server and keeping the
> > file server data on the same physical server as it is SAN attached..
> >
> > Just to be clear in case my post is not clear, we want to migrate a
> > production file server that has 800GB of data from domain A to domain
> > B in the same forest. We have already migrated all users and
> > workstations from domain A to Domain B using ADMT successfully and now
> > we want to migrate the member servers over.
> >
> > The file server with the 800GB of has over 50 shares and many sub
> > folders have been given different NTFS permissions.
> >
> > We expect the ADMT to translate the security on shares and folders
> > when we use ADMT to migrate the file server from domain A to domain B
> > and need to work out how long this process will take.
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> > "Danny Sanders" wrote:
> >
> >>> We have a file server with approx 800GB of data that we have to
> >>> migrate
> >>> from
> >>> Domain A to Domain B in the same forest.
> >>> We want to use the ADMT but need to understand how long it may take
> >>> ADMT
> >>> to
> >>> run when translating security on the file server.
> >> First off ADMT is for moving users, groups, and computers from one
> >> domain to
> >> the other. Not Files.
> >> For copying the files from one server to another you can use robocopy
> >> with
> >> the correct switches.
> >> Secondly, why don't you just remove the file server from the one
> >> domain and add it to the other then set up permissions as you like?
> >>
> >> hth
> >> DDS
> >> "Desparate Dan" <> wrote in
> >> message newsABFB322-900A-4E0E-AA23-...
> >>
> >>> Hi All
> >>>
> >>> Please can someone help me with the query I have below.
> >>>
> >>> We have a file server with approx 800GB of data that we have to
> >>> migrate
> >>> from
> >>> Domain A to Domain B in the same forest.
> >>> We want to use the ADMT but need to understand how long it may take
> >>> ADMT
> >>> to
> >>> run when translating security on the file server.
> >>> Is there a way of working out how long the ADMT may take to run or
> >>> any
> >>> time
> >>> estimations out there that someone may be aware of.
> >>> Thanks in advance.
> >>>
> >>> Dan
> >>>
>
>
>

Hello Desparate,

Found a test with 20GB for the translation which takes roundabout 2 minutes.
So i would start a small test with your actual hardware to see the time it's
need. OS version 2003.

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
no rights.
** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm


> Thank-You Meinolf for the information.
>
> However we need to know how long the ADMT wil take to run on a file
> server that has 800GB of file data on it when we migrate the file
> server from Domain A to Domain B in the same Forest.
>
> Does anyone know if there is a way of working out how long the ADMT
> wil take to translate security on an 800GB file server or could
> soembody please share with me their experiences using ADMT to do such
> a task.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Dan
>
> "Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" wrote:
>
>> Hello Desparate,
>>
>> ADMT will also migrate the member server like the workstations. So
>> there shouldn't be an influence to the data and permissions. To
>> prevent data loss make a backup before.
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Meinolf Weber
>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
>> confers
>> no rights.
>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>> Hi Y'all
>>>
>>> Thanks Danny but we are not moving files from one server to another
>>> we are performing a domain migration of a file server and keeping
>>> the file server data on the same physical server as it is SAN
>>> attached..
>>>
>>> Just to be clear in case my post is not clear, we want to migrate a
>>> production file server that has 800GB of data from domain A to
>>> domain B in the same forest. We have already migrated all users and
>>> workstations from domain A to Domain B using ADMT successfully and
>>> now we want to migrate the member servers over.
>>>
>>> The file server with the 800GB of has over 50 shares and many sub
>>> folders have been given different NTFS permissions.
>>>
>>> We expect the ADMT to translate the security on shares and folders
>>> when we use ADMT to migrate the file server from domain A to domain
>>> B and need to work out how long this process will take.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>
>>> Dan
>>>
>>> "Danny Sanders" wrote:
>>>
>>>>> We have a file server with approx 800GB of data that we have to
>>>>> migrate
>>>>> from
>>>>> Domain A to Domain B in the same forest.
>>>>> We want to use the ADMT but need to understand how long it may
>>>>> take
>>>>> ADMT
>>>>> to
>>>>> run when translating security on the file server.
>>>> First off ADMT is for moving users, groups, and computers from one
>>>> domain to
>>>> the other. Not Files.
>>>> For copying the files from one server to another you can use
>>>> robocopy
>>>> with
>>>> the correct switches.
>>>> Secondly, why don't you just remove the file server from the one
>>>> domain and add it to the other then set up permissions as you like?
>>>> hth
>>>> DDS
>>>> "Desparate Dan" <> wrote in
>>>> message newsABFB322-900A-4E0E-AA23-...
>>>>> Hi All
>>>>>
>>>>> Please can someone help me with the query I have below.
>>>>>
>>>>> We have a file server with approx 800GB of data that we have to
>>>>> migrate
>>>>> from
>>>>> Domain A to Domain B in the same forest.
>>>>> We want to use the ADMT but need to understand how long it may
>>>>> take
>>>>> ADMT
>>>>> to
>>>>> run when translating security on the file server.
>>>>> Is there a way of working out how long the ADMT may take to run or
>>>>> any
>>>>> time
>>>>> estimations out there that someone may be aware of.
>>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>>> Dan
>>>>>

Thanks Meinolf.

It's a shame that the ADMT 3.0 no longer does a trial run test as in
previous editions.

As the hardware is SAN connected we really have no way of performing a true
test so we will just have to block out a sufficient production outage for
this server for the migration.

Thanks again

Dan



"Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" wrote:

> Hello Desparate,
>
> Found a test with 20GB for the translation which takes roundabout 2 minutes.
> So i would start a small test with your actual hardware to see the time it's
> need. OS version 2003.
>
> Best regards
>
> Meinolf Weber
> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
> no rights.
> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>
>
> > Thank-You Meinolf for the information.
> >
> > However we need to know how long the ADMT wil take to run on a file
> > server that has 800GB of file data on it when we migrate the file
> > server from Domain A to Domain B in the same Forest.
> >
> > Does anyone know if there is a way of working out how long the ADMT
> > wil take to translate security on an 800GB file server or could
> > soembody please share with me their experiences using ADMT to do such
> > a task.
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> > "Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" wrote:
> >
> >> Hello Desparate,
> >>
> >> ADMT will also migrate the member server like the workstations. So
> >> there shouldn't be an influence to the data and permissions. To
> >> prevent data loss make a backup before.
> >>
> >> Best regards
> >>
> >> Meinolf Weber
> >> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
> >> confers
> >> no rights.
> >> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> >> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
> >>> Hi Y'all
> >>>
> >>> Thanks Danny but we are not moving files from one server to another
> >>> we are performing a domain migration of a file server and keeping
> >>> the file server data on the same physical server as it is SAN
> >>> attached..
> >>>
> >>> Just to be clear in case my post is not clear, we want to migrate a
> >>> production file server that has 800GB of data from domain A to
> >>> domain B in the same forest. We have already migrated all users and
> >>> workstations from domain A to Domain B using ADMT successfully and
> >>> now we want to migrate the member servers over.
> >>>
> >>> The file server with the 800GB of has over 50 shares and many sub
> >>> folders have been given different NTFS permissions.
> >>>
> >>> We expect the ADMT to translate the security on shares and folders
> >>> when we use ADMT to migrate the file server from domain A to domain
> >>> B and need to work out how long this process will take.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks in advance.
> >>>
> >>> Dan
> >>>
> >>> "Danny Sanders" wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>> We have a file server with approx 800GB of data that we have to
> >>>>> migrate
> >>>>> from
> >>>>> Domain A to Domain B in the same forest.
> >>>>> We want to use the ADMT but need to understand how long it may
> >>>>> take
> >>>>> ADMT
> >>>>> to
> >>>>> run when translating security on the file server.
> >>>> First off ADMT is for moving users, groups, and computers from one
> >>>> domain to
> >>>> the other. Not Files.
> >>>> For copying the files from one server to another you can use
> >>>> robocopy
> >>>> with
> >>>> the correct switches.
> >>>> Secondly, why don't you just remove the file server from the one
> >>>> domain and add it to the other then set up permissions as you like?
> >>>> hth
> >>>> DDS
> >>>> "Desparate Dan" <> wrote in
> >>>> message newsABFB322-900A-4E0E-AA23-...
> >>>>> Hi All
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Please can someone help me with the query I have below.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> We have a file server with approx 800GB of data that we have to
> >>>>> migrate
> >>>>> from
> >>>>> Domain A to Domain B in the same forest.
> >>>>> We want to use the ADMT but need to understand how long it may
> >>>>> take
> >>>>> ADMT
> >>>>> to
> >>>>> run when translating security on the file server.
> >>>>> Is there a way of working out how long the ADMT may take to run or
> >>>>> any
> >>>>> time
> >>>>> estimations out there that someone may be aware of.
> >>>>> Thanks in advance.
> >>>>> Dan
> >>>>>
>
>
>

Dan,

I 've found that ADMT security translations are directly related to number
of files vs. size. The biggest server that I've translated has about 6
million files and it takes approximately 2 hours to complete. You can get a
test by just running a security translation in ADD mode and then REPLACE
when you actually move the computer.

I hope this helps you.
--
Tim

"Desparate Dan" <> wrote in message
news:E3598170-8575-41C5-9B6D-...
>
> Thanks Meinolf.
>
> It's a shame that the ADMT 3.0 no longer does a trial run test as in
> previous editions.
>
> As the hardware is SAN connected we really have no way of performing a
> true
> test so we will just have to block out a sufficient production outage for
> this server for the migration.
>
> Thanks again
>
> Dan
>
>
>
> "Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" wrote:
>
>> Hello Desparate,
>>
>> Found a test with 20GB for the translation which takes roundabout 2
>> minutes.
>> So i would start a small test with your actual hardware to see the time
>> it's
>> need. OS version 2003.
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Meinolf Weber
>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
>> confers
>> no rights.
>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>
>>
>> > Thank-You Meinolf for the information.
>> >
>> > However we need to know how long the ADMT wil take to run on a file
>> > server that has 800GB of file data on it when we migrate the file
>> > server from Domain A to Domain B in the same Forest.
>> >
>> > Does anyone know if there is a way of working out how long the ADMT
>> > wil take to translate security on an 800GB file server or could
>> > soembody please share with me their experiences using ADMT to do such
>> > a task.
>> >
>> > Thanks in advance.
>> >
>> > Dan
>> >
>> > "Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hello Desparate,
>> >>
>> >> ADMT will also migrate the member server like the workstations. So
>> >> there shouldn't be an influence to the data and permissions. To
>> >> prevent data loss make a backup before.
>> >>
>> >> Best regards
>> >>
>> >> Meinolf Weber
>> >> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
>> >> confers
>> >> no rights.
>> >> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>> >> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>> >>> Hi Y'all
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks Danny but we are not moving files from one server to another
>> >>> we are performing a domain migration of a file server and keeping
>> >>> the file server data on the same physical server as it is SAN
>> >>> attached..
>> >>>
>> >>> Just to be clear in case my post is not clear, we want to migrate a
>> >>> production file server that has 800GB of data from domain A to
>> >>> domain B in the same forest. We have already migrated all users and
>> >>> workstations from domain A to Domain B using ADMT successfully and
>> >>> now we want to migrate the member servers over.
>> >>>
>> >>> The file server with the 800GB of has over 50 shares and many sub
>> >>> folders have been given different NTFS permissions.
>> >>>
>> >>> We expect the ADMT to translate the security on shares and folders
>> >>> when we use ADMT to migrate the file server from domain A to domain
>> >>> B and need to work out how long this process will take.
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks in advance.
>> >>>
>> >>> Dan
>> >>>
>> >>> "Danny Sanders" wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>>> We have a file server with approx 800GB of data that we have to
>> >>>>> migrate
>> >>>>> from
>> >>>>> Domain A to Domain B in the same forest.
>> >>>>> We want to use the ADMT but need to understand how long it may
>> >>>>> take
>> >>>>> ADMT
>> >>>>> to
>> >>>>> run when translating security on the file server.
>> >>>> First off ADMT is for moving users, groups, and computers from one
>> >>>> domain to
>> >>>> the other. Not Files.
>> >>>> For copying the files from one server to another you can use
>> >>>> robocopy
>> >>>> with
>> >>>> the correct switches.
>> >>>> Secondly, why don't you just remove the file server from the one
>> >>>> domain and add it to the other then set up permissions as you like?
>> >>>> hth
>> >>>> DDS
>> >>>> "Desparate Dan" <> wrote in
>> >>>> message newsABFB322-900A-4E0E-AA23-...
>> >>>>> Hi All
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Please can someone help me with the query I have below.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> We have a file server with approx 800GB of data that we have to
>> >>>>> migrate
>> >>>>> from
>> >>>>> Domain A to Domain B in the same forest.
>> >>>>> We want to use the ADMT but need to understand how long it may
>> >>>>> take
>> >>>>> ADMT
>> >>>>> to
>> >>>>> run when translating security on the file server.
>> >>>>> Is there a way of working out how long the ADMT may take to run or
>> >>>>> any
>> >>>>> time
>> >>>>> estimations out there that someone may be aware of.
>> >>>>> Thanks in advance.
>> >>>>> Dan
>> >>>>>
>>
>>
>>

Thanks Tim - thats very helpful.

Dan

"Tim Chin" wrote:

> Dan,
>
> I 've found that ADMT security translations are directly related to number
> of files vs. size. The biggest server that I've translated has about 6
> million files and it takes approximately 2 hours to complete. You can get a
> test by just running a security translation in ADD mode and then REPLACE
> when you actually move the computer.
>
> I hope this helps you.
> --
> Tim
>
> "Desparate Dan" <> wrote in message
> news:E3598170-8575-41C5-9B6D-...
> >
> > Thanks Meinolf.
> >
> > It's a shame that the ADMT 3.0 no longer does a trial run test as in
> > previous editions.
> >
> > As the hardware is SAN connected we really have no way of performing a
> > true
> > test so we will just have to block out a sufficient production outage for
> > this server for the migration.
> >
> > Thanks again
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >
> >
> > "Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" wrote:
> >
> >> Hello Desparate,
> >>
> >> Found a test with 20GB for the translation which takes roundabout 2
> >> minutes.
> >> So i would start a small test with your actual hardware to see the time
> >> it's
> >> need. OS version 2003.
> >>
> >> Best regards
> >>
> >> Meinolf Weber
> >> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
> >> confers
> >> no rights.
> >> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> >> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
> >>
> >>
> >> > Thank-You Meinolf for the information.
> >> >
> >> > However we need to know how long the ADMT wil take to run on a file
> >> > server that has 800GB of file data on it when we migrate the file
> >> > server from Domain A to Domain B in the same Forest.
> >> >
> >> > Does anyone know if there is a way of working out how long the ADMT
> >> > wil take to translate security on an 800GB file server or could
> >> > soembody please share with me their experiences using ADMT to do such
> >> > a task.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks in advance.
> >> >
> >> > Dan
> >> >
> >> > "Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hello Desparate,
> >> >>
> >> >> ADMT will also migrate the member server like the workstations. So
> >> >> there shouldn't be an influence to the data and permissions. To
> >> >> prevent data loss make a backup before.
> >> >>
> >> >> Best regards
> >> >>
> >> >> Meinolf Weber
> >> >> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
> >> >> confers
> >> >> no rights.
> >> >> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> >> >> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
> >> >>> Hi Y'all
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Thanks Danny but we are not moving files from one server to another
> >> >>> we are performing a domain migration of a file server and keeping
> >> >>> the file server data on the same physical server as it is SAN
> >> >>> attached..
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Just to be clear in case my post is not clear, we want to migrate a
> >> >>> production file server that has 800GB of data from domain A to
> >> >>> domain B in the same forest. We have already migrated all users and
> >> >>> workstations from domain A to Domain B using ADMT successfully and
> >> >>> now we want to migrate the member servers over.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> The file server with the 800GB of has over 50 shares and many sub
> >> >>> folders have been given different NTFS permissions.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> We expect the ADMT to translate the security on shares and folders
> >> >>> when we use ADMT to migrate the file server from domain A to domain
> >> >>> B and need to work out how long this process will take.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Thanks in advance.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Dan
> >> >>>
> >> >>> "Danny Sanders" wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>> We have a file server with approx 800GB of data that we have to
> >> >>>>> migrate
> >> >>>>> from
> >> >>>>> Domain A to Domain B in the same forest.
> >> >>>>> We want to use the ADMT but need to understand how long it may
> >> >>>>> take
> >> >>>>> ADMT
> >> >>>>> to
> >> >>>>> run when translating security on the file server.
> >> >>>> First off ADMT is for moving users, groups, and computers from one
> >> >>>> domain to
> >> >>>> the other. Not Files.
> >> >>>> For copying the files from one server to another you can use
> >> >>>> robocopy
> >> >>>> with
> >> >>>> the correct switches.
> >> >>>> Secondly, why don't you just remove the file server from the one
> >> >>>> domain and add it to the other then set up permissions as you like?
> >> >>>> hth
> >> >>>> DDS
> >> >>>> "Desparate Dan" <> wrote in
> >> >>>> message newsABFB322-900A-4E0E-AA23-...
> >> >>>>> Hi All
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Please can someone help me with the query I have below.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> We have a file server with approx 800GB of data that we have to
> >> >>>>> migrate
> >> >>>>> from
> >> >>>>> Domain A to Domain B in the same forest.
> >> >>>>> We want to use the ADMT but need to understand how long it may
> >> >>>>> take
> >> >>>>> ADMT
> >> >>>>> to
> >> >>>>> run when translating security on the file server.
> >> >>>>> Is there a way of working out how long the ADMT may take to run or
> >> >>>>> any
> >> >>>>> time
> >> >>>>> estimations out there that someone may be aware of.
> >> >>>>> Thanks in advance.
> >> >>>>> Dan
> >> >>>>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>

Dan,

i've also seen in the past that duration time of security translation
depends on number of files, power and resources available of the machine
where the translation will run.

I was also disappointed that in ADMTv3x MS pull out some nice feature that
was very useful in ADMTv2 (trial run, summary reports tab of computer
migration...).

You should install an ADMTv2 instance on another machine and did a trial
run. Even if it'll be faster 'cause do not really write or update ACLs it
will give you an idea of the amount of time the operation will need to
complete. In the past i did a security translation on servers with 4 or 6TB
but i didn't remember how much time it took... perhaps i have logs
somewhere.. anyway i think that it depends too much on the machine type where
security translation it will run.

Hope this help somehow


"Desparate Dan" wrote:

> Thanks Tim - thats very helpful.
>
> Dan
>
> "Tim Chin" wrote:
>
> > Dan,
> >
> > I 've found that ADMT security translations are directly related to number
> > of files vs. size. The biggest server that I've translated has about 6
> > million files and it takes approximately 2 hours to complete. You can get a
> > test by just running a security translation in ADD mode and then REPLACE
> > when you actually move the computer.
> >
> > I hope this helps you.
> > --
> > Tim
> >
> > "Desparate Dan" <> wrote in message
> > news:E3598170-8575-41C5-9B6D-...
> > >
> > > Thanks Meinolf.
> > >
> > > It's a shame that the ADMT 3.0 no longer does a trial run test as in
> > > previous editions.
> > >
> > > As the hardware is SAN connected we really have no way of performing a
> > > true
> > > test so we will just have to block out a sufficient production outage for
> > > this server for the migration.
> > >
> > > Thanks again
> > >
> > > Dan
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hello Desparate,
> > >>
> > >> Found a test with 20GB for the translation which takes roundabout 2
> > >> minutes.
> > >> So i would start a small test with your actual hardware to see the time
> > >> it's
> > >> need. OS version 2003.
> > >>
> > >> Best regards
> > >>
> > >> Meinolf Weber
> > >> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
> > >> confers
> > >> no rights.
> > >> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> > >> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > Thank-You Meinolf for the information.
> > >> >
> > >> > However we need to know how long the ADMT wil take to run on a file
> > >> > server that has 800GB of file data on it when we migrate the file
> > >> > server from Domain A to Domain B in the same Forest.
> > >> >
> > >> > Does anyone know if there is a way of working out how long the ADMT
> > >> > wil take to translate security on an 800GB file server or could
> > >> > soembody please share with me their experiences using ADMT to do such
> > >> > a task.
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks in advance.
> > >> >
> > >> > Dan
> > >> >
> > >> > "Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> Hello Desparate,
> > >> >>
> > >> >> ADMT will also migrate the member server like the workstations. So
> > >> >> there shouldn't be an influence to the data and permissions. To
> > >> >> prevent data loss make a backup before.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Best regards
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Meinolf Weber
> > >> >> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
> > >> >> confers
> > >> >> no rights.
> > >> >> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> > >> >> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
> > >> >>> Hi Y'all
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Thanks Danny but we are not moving files from one server to another
> > >> >>> we are performing a domain migration of a file server and keeping
> > >> >>> the file server data on the same physical server as it is SAN
> > >> >>> attached..
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Just to be clear in case my post is not clear, we want to migrate a
> > >> >>> production file server that has 800GB of data from domain A to
> > >> >>> domain B in the same forest. We have already migrated all users and
> > >> >>> workstations from domain A to Domain B using ADMT successfully and
> > >> >>> now we want to migrate the member servers over.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> The file server with the 800GB of has over 50 shares and many sub
> > >> >>> folders have been given different NTFS permissions.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> We expect the ADMT to translate the security on shares and folders
> > >> >>> when we use ADMT to migrate the file server from domain A to domain
> > >> >>> B and need to work out how long this process will take.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Thanks in advance.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Dan
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> "Danny Sanders" wrote:
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>>> We have a file server with approx 800GB of data that we have to
> > >> >>>>> migrate
> > >> >>>>> from
> > >> >>>>> Domain A to Domain B in the same forest.
> > >> >>>>> We want to use the ADMT but need to understand how long it may
> > >> >>>>> take
> > >> >>>>> ADMT
> > >> >>>>> to
> > >> >>>>> run when translating security on the file server.
> > >> >>>> First off ADMT is for moving users, groups, and computers from one
> > >> >>>> domain to
> > >> >>>> the other. Not Files.
> > >> >>>> For copying the files from one server to another you can use
> > >> >>>> robocopy
> > >> >>>> with
> > >> >>>> the correct switches.
> > >> >>>> Secondly, why don't you just remove the file server from the one
> > >> >>>> domain and add it to the other then set up permissions as you like?
> > >> >>>> hth
> > >> >>>> DDS
> > >> >>>> "Desparate Dan" <> wrote in
> > >> >>>> message newsABFB322-900A-4E0E-AA23-...
> > >> >>>>> Hi All
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> Please can someone help me with the query I have below.
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> We have a file server with approx 800GB of data that we have to
> > >> >>>>> migrate
> > >> >>>>> from
> > >> >>>>> Domain A to Domain B in the same forest.
> > >> >>>>> We want to use the ADMT but need to understand how long it may
> > >> >>>>> take
> > >> >>>>> ADMT
> > >> >>>>> to
> > >> >>>>> run when translating security on the file server.
> > >> >>>>> Is there a way of working out how long the ADMT may take to run or
> > >> >>>>> any
> > >> >>>>> time
> > >> >>>>> estimations out there that someone may be aware of.
> > >> >>>>> Thanks in advance.
> > >> >>>>> Dan
> > >> >>>>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> >