Age of 64-bit has arrived, Age of 32-bit is vanishing!

Soon, no more 32-bit computers will ship...:cry:

-Out of the 11 HP laptops listed as "new arrivals" at Best Buy, 9 come
with 4GB of memory and 64-bit Vista. Ironically, the other two
new-arrival HP systems come with "Windows Vista Business downgraded to
XP Pro." -

-In other words, you get either XP or 64-bit Vista*:* 32-bit Vista is
not offered standard at all in this list of new arrivals.-

-'64-bit Vista finds a home on consumer laptops'
(http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-10...ml?tag=mncol)-


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rasmasyean

I'm surprised their laptops shipped still with XP X64bit...wow lol no
thank you.
Soon you'll see no more X32 period.


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*System specs below*

The date and time was 11/1/2008 2:02 PM, and on a whim, rasmasyean
pounded out on the keyboard:

> Soon, no more 32-bit computers will ship...:cry:
>
> -Out of the 11 HP laptops listed as "new arrivals" at Best Buy, 9 come
> with 4GB of memory and 64-bit Vista. Ironically, the other two
> new-arrival HP systems come with "Windows Vista Business downgraded to
> XP Pro." -
>
> -In other words, you get either XP or 64-bit Vista*:* 32-bit Vista is
> not offered standard at all in this list of new arrivals.-
>
> -'64-bit Vista finds a home on consumer laptops'
> (http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-10...ml?tag=mncol)-
>
>

Vanishing? Not for a long time. In six to ten years we might start
seeing it take hold. Once the remnants of XP start fading away.

If users aren't willing to give up perfectly good hardware and software
that won't run on a 32 bit Vista, I doubt shoving a 64 bit OS on
everyone will go over any better.

I would guess MS figures it takes a 64 bit CPU and 4 gig of RAM to get
Vista working properly. ;-)

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What has M/S got to do with HP shipping Vista 64 bit. M/S makes their
commission whether 32 bit or 64 bit is installed.

Some people just hate M/S so much that they are blinded to the facts that
exist.

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"Terry R." <> wrote in message
news:...
> The date and time was 11/1/2008 2:02 PM, and on a whim, rasmasyean pounded
> out on the keyboard:
>
>> Soon, no more 32-bit computers will ship...:cry:
>>
>> -Out of the 11 HP laptops listed as "new arrivals" at Best Buy, 9 come
>> with 4GB of memory and 64-bit Vista. Ironically, the other two
>> new-arrival HP systems come with "Windows Vista Business downgraded to
>> XP Pro." -
>>
>> -In other words, you get either XP or 64-bit Vista*:* 32-bit Vista is
>> not offered standard at all in this list of new arrivals.-
>>
>> -'64-bit Vista finds a home on consumer laptops'
>> (http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-10...ml?tag=mncol)-
>>
>>
>
> Vanishing? Not for a long time. In six to ten years we might start
> seeing it take hold. Once the remnants of XP start fading away.
>
> If users aren't willing to give up perfectly good hardware and software
> that won't run on a 32 bit Vista, I doubt shoving a 64 bit OS on everyone
> will go over any better.
>
> I would guess MS figures it takes a 64 bit CPU and 4 gig of RAM to get
> Vista working properly. ;-)
>
> --
> Terry R.
>
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rasmasyean wrote:
> Soon, no more 32-bit computers will ship...:cry:
>
> -Out of the 11 HP laptops listed as "new arrivals" at Best Buy, 9 come
> with 4GB of memory and 64-bit Vista. Ironically, the other two
> new-arrival HP systems come with "Windows Vista Business downgraded to
> XP Pro." -
>
> -In other words, you get either XP or 64-bit Vista*:* 32-bit Vista is
> not offered standard at all in this list of new arrivals.-
>
> -'64-bit Vista finds a home on consumer laptops'
> (http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-10...ml?tag=mncol)-
>

Well hopefully it will mean more 64bit apps rolling out <stares
meaningfully at Adobe and also at the music industry> as they're a bit
thin on the ground, especially at the cheaper end.

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"Bob Campbell" <> wrote in message
news: m...
> "Terry R." <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Vanishing? Not for a long time. In six to ten years we might start
>> seeing it take hold. Once the remnants of XP start fading away.
>
> XP is already fading away. Vista at nearly 20% and XP well below 70% for
> the first time in 5 years.
>
> If you are buying a machine today, 64 bit is definitely the way to go.
> Unless you have some vital piece of 32 bit software that won't run on 64
> bit (and there are damn few of those), there is no reason to hobble a 64
> bit machine with a 32 bit OS - especially with XP.
>
> I bought this 64 bit machine a year ago. It came with 32 bit Vista Home
> Premium, but I immediately wiped it and installed 64 bit Ultimate, and
> never looked back. Everything I have runs fine.
>
> 64 bit will take over way sooner than "six to ten years". It is
> *already* happening. The ability to use WAY more than 3.3 GB of RAM will
> be the driving factor, just like the ability to use more than 64K (16
> bit), and 640K (20 bit kludge) was the driving factor behind the move to
> 32 bit.


Windows 7 will be the big turning point for 64bit..


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On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 16:02:56 -0500, rasmasyean wrote:

> Soon, no more 32-bit computers will ship...:cry:
>
> -Out of the 11 HP laptops listed as "new arrivals" at Best Buy, 9 come
> with 4GB of memory and 64-bit Vista. Ironically, the other two
> new-arrival HP systems come with "Windows Vista Business downgraded to
> XP Pro." -
>
> -In other words, you get either XP or 64-bit Vista*:* 32-bit Vista is
> not offered standard at all in this list of new arrivals.-
>
> -'64-bit Vista finds a home on consumer laptops'
> (http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-10...ml?tag=mncol)-

And about time too. It certainly took MS a long time to get there - I was
using Tru64 Unix in about 1995.

ray wrote:
> On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 16:02:56 -0500, rasmasyean wrote:
>
>> Soon, no more 32-bit computers will ship...:cry:
>>
>> -Out of the 11 HP laptops listed as "new arrivals" at Best Buy, 9 come
>> with 4GB of memory and 64-bit Vista. Ironically, the other two
>> new-arrival HP systems come with "Windows Vista Business downgraded to
>> XP Pro." -
>>
>> -In other words, you get either XP or 64-bit Vista*:* 32-bit Vista is
>> not offered standard at all in this list of new arrivals.-
>>
>> -'64-bit Vista finds a home on consumer laptops'
>> (http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-10...ml?tag=mncol)-
>
> And about time too. It certainly took MS a long time to get there - I was
> using Tru64 Unix in about 1995.

Considering the fact that MS does not write software drivers for 3rd
party apps I'd say it is really the retail software industry as a whole
that is at fault.

"Warren Desjardins" <> wrote in message
news:...
>
> "Richard Urban" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> What has M/S got to do with HP shipping Vista 64 bit. M/S makes their
>> commission whether 32 bit or 64 bit is installed.
>> Some people just hate M/S so much that they are blinded to the facts that
>> exist.
>> --
>> Richard Urban
>> Microsoft MVP
>> Windows Desktop Experience

> Most of us don't hate M/S, we hate the OSs pushed off on us that are buggy
> and don't work with perfectly good hardware or software we use or even
> need.We hate things moved around or it's name changed just to prove Vista
> is "different" than XP.

Ditto!!
All I see in Vista is huff, fluff & bluff, nothing really improved and
harder to use.
They used server code base, so what.
As the old lady used to say in the commercial...WHERE'S THE BEEF? LOL

In article <> ,
Bob Campbell <> wrote:
>
>there is no reason to hobble a 64 bit
>machine with a 32 bit OS - especially with XP.
>

Other than an expanded memory space what exactly does a 64 bit
OS buy me?

>The ability to use WAY more than 3.3 GB of RAM will be the

Why? Other than very large Oracle servers I can't think of a
program that uses more than a gig. Maybe some large image editing
setups...

I thin kpeople would see more improvement from a solid state
disc drive with reasonable write speed than from 64 bit Windows.

BTW, you don't need a 64 bit OS to address more than 3GB.