AHCI Implementation

I implemented AHCI on a Vista Ultimate system with three SATA drives
(changed the registry to load the MSAHCI service). I think I ended up with
two arrays - one containing all the partitions on the boot drive and a
second array for the other two drives. I used Vista to recreate the
partitions on the second array and everything seemed to function normally -
except the Intel Matrix Storage Console 8.5 said that NCQ was not
implemented on the non-boot drives. I can go back and forth between IDE and
AHCI and Vista does not have a problem with the partitions on the boot drive
but the other two drives are a problem. I have given up on AHCI unless
someone can point me to some good technical information on how it works. I
have another system with the almost exact same configuration running Raid0
and wth two arrays it works just fine with NCQ turned on for both arrays. I
know, stick with IDE or Raid but AHCI has become a personal thing!! Also, I
was hoping I could find a way to go to a true Raid0 configuration on the
AHCI system without having to reinstall Vista. Help would be welcome.

Raid 0 is a stripe set, the set has to be created then win installed on it
Raid 1 on the other hand can usually be created using two disks, one of
which has data or win allready installed.

"Ken" <> wrote in message
news:...
>I implemented AHCI on a Vista Ultimate system with three SATA drives
> (changed the registry to load the MSAHCI service). I think I ended up
> with
> two arrays - one containing all the partitions on the boot drive and a
> second array for the other two drives. I used Vista to recreate the
> partitions on the second array and everything seemed to function
> normally -
> except the Intel Matrix Storage Console 8.5 said that NCQ was not
> implemented on the non-boot drives. I can go back and forth between IDE
> and
> AHCI and Vista does not have a problem with the partitions on the boot
> drive
> but the other two drives are a problem. I have given up on AHCI unless
> someone can point me to some good technical information on how it works.
> I
> have another system with the almost exact same configuration running Raid0
> and wth two arrays it works just fine with NCQ turned on for both arrays.
> I
> know, stick with IDE or Raid but AHCI has become a personal thing!! Also,
> I
> was hoping I could find a way to go to a true Raid0 configuration on the
> AHCI system without having to reinstall Vista. Help would be welcome.
>

What does that have to do with AHCI? I know a little about Raid since I
have it running it on other systems for several years. I have been running
this system in IDE mode because when I was Overclocking it a few months back
I lost the Raid array for some reason had to reload the drives. I read
somewhere that AHCI was better than IDE since it used all the features of
the new SATA drives. So.... I'm still looking for information on AHCI under
Vista and why it does what it does. Like I said, Vista seems to handle the
system drive in AHCI mode ok but does strange things with other drives.

"DL" <address@invalid> wrote in message
news:...
> Raid 0 is a stripe set, the set has to be created then win installed on it
> Raid 1 on the other hand can usually be created using two disks, one of
> which has data or win allready installed.
>
> "Ken" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>>I implemented AHCI on a Vista Ultimate system with three SATA drives
>> (changed the registry to load the MSAHCI service). I think I ended up
>> with
>> two arrays - one containing all the partitions on the boot drive and a
>> second array for the other two drives. I used Vista to recreate the
>> partitions on the second array and everything seemed to function
>> normally -
>> except the Intel Matrix Storage Console 8.5 said that NCQ was not
>> implemented on the non-boot drives. I can go back and forth between IDE
>> and
>> AHCI and Vista does not have a problem with the partitions on the boot
>> drive
>> but the other two drives are a problem. I have given up on AHCI unless
>> someone can point me to some good technical information on how it works.
>> I
>> have another system with the almost exact same configuration running
>> Raid0
>> and wth two arrays it works just fine with NCQ turned on for both arrays.
>> I
>> know, stick with IDE or Raid but AHCI has become a personal thing!!
>> Also, I
>> was hoping I could find a way to go to a true Raid0 configuration on the
>> AHCI system without having to reinstall Vista. Help would be welcome.
>>
>
>

It was a responce to the point that he wanted to impliment raid 0 without
reinstalling Vista, which if you had read the post you would have seen.
>>> was hoping I could find a way to go to a true Raid0 configuration on the
>>> AHCI system without having to reinstall Vista. Help would be welcome.


"Ken" <> wrote in message
news:%...
> What does that have to do with AHCI? I know a little about Raid since I
> have it running it on other systems for several years. I have been
> running this system in IDE mode because when I was Overclocking it a few
> months back I lost the Raid array for some reason had to reload the
> drives. I read somewhere that AHCI was better than IDE since it used all
> the features of the new SATA drives. So.... I'm still looking for
> information on AHCI under Vista and why it does what it does. Like I
> said, Vista seems to handle the system drive in AHCI mode ok but does
> strange things with other drives.
>
> "DL" <address@invalid> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Raid 0 is a stripe set, the set has to be created then win installed on
>> it
>> Raid 1 on the other hand can usually be created using two disks, one of
>> which has data or win allready installed.
>>
>> "Ken" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>>I implemented AHCI on a Vista Ultimate system with three SATA drives
>>> (changed the registry to load the MSAHCI service). I think I ended up
>>> with
>>> two arrays - one containing all the partitions on the boot drive and a
>>> second array for the other two drives. I used Vista to recreate the
>>> partitions on the second array and everything seemed to function
>>> normally -
>>> except the Intel Matrix Storage Console 8.5 said that NCQ was not
>>> implemented on the non-boot drives. I can go back and forth between IDE
>>> and
>>> AHCI and Vista does not have a problem with the partitions on the boot
>>> drive
>>> but the other two drives are a problem. I have given up on AHCI unless
>>> someone can point me to some good technical information on how it works.
>>> I
>>> have another system with the almost exact same configuration running
>>> Raid0
>>> and wth two arrays it works just fine with NCQ turned on for both
>>> arrays. I
>>> know, stick with IDE or Raid but AHCI has become a personal thing!!
>>> Also, I
>>> was hoping I could find a way to go to a true Raid0 configuration on the
>>> AHCI system without having to reinstall Vista. Help would be welcome.
>>>
>>
>>
>

Use Acronis to make an image of your Vista installation, make a Raid0 array
and restore the Vista image on it; you might have some Raid drivers
issues... repair Vista from the installed image.
Michael

"Ken" <> wrote in message
news:...
>I implemented AHCI on a Vista Ultimate system with three SATA drives
> (changed the registry to load the MSAHCI service). I think I ended up
> with
> two arrays - one containing all the partitions on the boot drive and a
> second array for the other two drives. I used Vista to recreate the
> partitions on the second array and everything seemed to function
> normally -
> except the Intel Matrix Storage Console 8.5 said that NCQ was not
> implemented on the non-boot drives. I can go back and forth between IDE
> and
> AHCI and Vista does not have a problem with the partitions on the boot
> drive
> but the other two drives are a problem. I have given up on AHCI unless
> someone can point me to some good technical information on how it works.
> I
> have another system with the almost exact same configuration running Raid0
> and wth two arrays it works just fine with NCQ turned on for both arrays.
> I
> know, stick with IDE or Raid but AHCI has become a personal thing!! Also,
> I
> was hoping I could find a way to go to a true Raid0 configuration on the
> AHCI system without having to reinstall Vista. Help would be welcome.
>

"Ken" <> wrote in message
news:...
>I implemented AHCI on a Vista Ultimate system with three SATA drives
> (changed the registry to load the MSAHCI service). I think I ended up
> with
> two arrays - one containing all the partitions on the boot drive and a
> second array for the other two drives. I used Vista to recreate the
> partitions on the second array and everything seemed to function
> normally -
> except the Intel Matrix Storage Console 8.5 said that NCQ was not
> implemented on the non-boot drives. I can go back and forth between IDE
> and
> AHCI and Vista does not have a problem with the partitions on the boot
> drive
> but the other two drives are a problem. I have given up on AHCI unless
> someone can point me to some good technical information on how it works.
> I
> have another system with the almost exact same configuration running Raid0
> and wth two arrays it works just fine with NCQ turned on for both arrays.
> I
> know, stick with IDE or Raid but AHCI has become a personal thing!! Also,
> I
> was hoping I could find a way to go to a true Raid0 configuration on the
> AHCI system without having to reinstall Vista. Help would be welcome.
>

This may depend on the particular MB BIOS. On my Asus P5B Dlx there
are three settings for SATA drives, the default use as IDE, AHCI for
single drives or drives not in a RAID setting, and RAID for setting up
RAID 0,1,5,or 10, or using the Intel Matrix Storage Tecchnology option
ROM to set up advanced RAID.

Sorry about that - I need to read my own questions closer! I guess I am
obsessed with the ACHI part! I have tried to restore an IDE VISTA system
partition to a new Raid0 array using Acronis and it don't work. VISTA
comes up with all kinds of exception messages. As I recall, I used to be
able to do that using Ghost 2003 and Windows XP Professional - assuming XP
had the Raid Drivers previously installed. I was half hoping AHCI would
provide a bridge to trick VISA into accepting a restore to a Raid0
enviornment.

"DL" <address@invalid> wrote in message
news:%...
> It was a responce to the point that he wanted to impliment raid 0 without
> reinstalling Vista, which if you had read the post you would have seen.
>>>> was hoping I could find a way to go to a true Raid0 configuration on
>>>> the
>>>> AHCI system without having to reinstall Vista. Help would be welcome.
>
>
> "Ken" <> wrote in message
> news:%...
>> What does that have to do with AHCI? I know a little about Raid since I
>> have it running it on other systems for several years. I have been
>> running this system in IDE mode because when I was Overclocking it a few
>> months back I lost the Raid array for some reason had to reload the
>> drives. I read somewhere that AHCI was better than IDE since it used all
>> the features of the new SATA drives. So.... I'm still looking for
>> information on AHCI under Vista and why it does what it does. Like I
>> said, Vista seems to handle the system drive in AHCI mode ok but does
>> strange things with other drives.
>>
>> "DL" <address@invalid> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>> Raid 0 is a stripe set, the set has to be created then win installed on
>>> it
>>> Raid 1 on the other hand can usually be created using two disks, one of
>>> which has data or win allready installed.
>>>
>>> "Ken" <> wrote in message
>>> news:...
>>>>I implemented AHCI on a Vista Ultimate system with three SATA drives
>>>> (changed the registry to load the MSAHCI service). I think I ended up
>>>> with
>>>> two arrays - one containing all the partitions on the boot drive and a
>>>> second array for the other two drives. I used Vista to recreate the
>>>> partitions on the second array and everything seemed to function
>>>> normally -
>>>> except the Intel Matrix Storage Console 8.5 said that NCQ was not
>>>> implemented on the non-boot drives. I can go back and forth between
>>>> IDE and
>>>> AHCI and Vista does not have a problem with the partitions on the boot
>>>> drive
>>>> but the other two drives are a problem. I have given up on AHCI unless
>>>> someone can point me to some good technical information on how it
>>>> works. I
>>>> have another system with the almost exact same configuration running
>>>> Raid0
>>>> and wth two arrays it works just fine with NCQ turned on for both
>>>> arrays. I
>>>> know, stick with IDE or Raid but AHCI has become a personal thing!!
>>>> Also, I
>>>> was hoping I could find a way to go to a true Raid0 configuration on
>>>> the
>>>> AHCI system without having to reinstall Vista. Help would be welcome.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

Been there done that and it did not work for me at least.

"Phillips" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Use Acronis to make an image of your Vista installation, make a Raid0
> array and restore the Vista image on it; you might have some Raid drivers
> issues... repair Vista from the installed image.
> Michael
>
> "Ken" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>>I implemented AHCI on a Vista Ultimate system with three SATA drives
>> (changed the registry to load the MSAHCI service). I think I ended up
>> with
>> two arrays - one containing all the partitions on the boot drive and a
>> second array for the other two drives. I used Vista to recreate the
>> partitions on the second array and everything seemed to function
>> normally -
>> except the Intel Matrix Storage Console 8.5 said that NCQ was not
>> implemented on the non-boot drives. I can go back and forth between IDE
>> and
>> AHCI and Vista does not have a problem with the partitions on the boot
>> drive
>> but the other two drives are a problem. I have given up on AHCI unless
>> someone can point me to some good technical information on how it works.
>> I
>> have another system with the almost exact same configuration running
>> Raid0
>> and wth two arrays it works just fine with NCQ turned on for both arrays.
>> I
>> know, stick with IDE or Raid but AHCI has become a personal thing!!
>> Also, I
>> was hoping I could find a way to go to a true Raid0 configuration on the
>> AHCI system without having to reinstall Vista. Help would be welcome.
>>
>

Yes, I have all the same stuff on my P5B Deluxe MB and my two abit IP35 Pro
motherboards. I have used the IDE and Raid settings with no problems or
issues. My main question was/is does anybody out there know how AHCI works
under VISTA or at least point me to some technical information on what the
heck it is really doing/trying to do in a multi disk situation.

"Ian D" <> wrote in message
news:...
>
> "Ken" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>>I implemented AHCI on a Vista Ultimate system with three SATA drives
>> (changed the registry to load the MSAHCI service). I think I ended up
>> with
>> two arrays - one containing all the partitions on the boot drive and a
>> second array for the other two drives. I used Vista to recreate the
>> partitions on the second array and everything seemed to function
>> normally -
>> except the Intel Matrix Storage Console 8.5 said that NCQ was not
>> implemented on the non-boot drives. I can go back and forth between IDE
>> and
>> AHCI and Vista does not have a problem with the partitions on the boot
>> drive
>> but the other two drives are a problem. I have given up on AHCI unless
>> someone can point me to some good technical information on how it works.
>> I
>> have another system with the almost exact same configuration running
>> Raid0
>> and wth two arrays it works just fine with NCQ turned on for both arrays.
>> I
>> know, stick with IDE or Raid but AHCI has become a personal thing!!
>> Also, I
>> was hoping I could find a way to go to a true Raid0 configuration on the
>> AHCI system without having to reinstall Vista. Help would be welcome.
>>
>
> This may depend on the particular MB BIOS. On my Asus P5B Dlx there
> are three settings for SATA drives, the default use as IDE, AHCI for
> single drives or drives not in a RAID setting, and RAID for setting up
> RAID 0,1,5,or 10, or using the Intel Matrix Storage Tecchnology option
> ROM to set up advanced RAID.
>

Just go to Microsoft website and search for "vista AHCI implementation" or
such. There are some .doc and power point files you might comb through.
Michael

"Ken" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Yes, I have all the same stuff on my P5B Deluxe MB and my two abit IP35
> Pro motherboards. I have used the IDE and Raid settings with no problems
> or issues. My main question was/is does anybody out there know how AHCI
> works under VISTA or at least point me to some technical information on
> what the heck it is really doing/trying to do in a multi disk situation.
>
> "Ian D" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>>
>> "Ken" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>>I implemented AHCI on a Vista Ultimate system with three SATA drives
>>> (changed the registry to load the MSAHCI service). I think I ended up
>>> with
>>> two arrays - one containing all the partitions on the boot drive and a
>>> second array for the other two drives. I used Vista to recreate the
>>> partitions on the second array and everything seemed to function
>>> normally -
>>> except the Intel Matrix Storage Console 8.5 said that NCQ was not
>>> implemented on the non-boot drives. I can go back and forth between IDE
>>> and
>>> AHCI and Vista does not have a problem with the partitions on the boot
>>> drive
>>> but the other two drives are a problem. I have given up on AHCI unless
>>> someone can point me to some good technical information on how it works.
>>> I
>>> have another system with the almost exact same configuration running
>>> Raid0
>>> and wth two arrays it works just fine with NCQ turned on for both
>>> arrays. I
>>> know, stick with IDE or Raid but AHCI has become a personal thing!!
>>> Also, I
>>> was hoping I could find a way to go to a true Raid0 configuration on the
>>> AHCI system without having to reinstall Vista. Help would be welcome.
>>>
>>
>> This may depend on the particular MB BIOS. On my Asus P5B Dlx there
>> are three settings for SATA drives, the default use as IDE, AHCI for
>> single drives or drives not in a RAID setting, and RAID for setting up
>> RAID 0,1,5,or 10, or using the Intel Matrix Storage Tecchnology option
>> ROM to set up advanced RAID.
>>
>