All is CONFIRMED

I am very happy to say that things I have been saying over the past 1 year
are all confirmed. Of course I am sad to see that I had to say all these
things in the first place.
Vista should have been better, then no need for criticism and rejection
would exist.

- Vista is far slower than XP
- Vista search is horrid, slow, gets corrupted and thrashes the disk. The
service should be turned off. It doesnt work.
- The vista start menu design is extremely bad, with menus that collapse
upon itself.
- Vista is unstable and incompatible with no great reason since it is NT
kernel.
- Vista is not user friendly, creating frustration to the simple user
- Readyboost is a gimmick that helps only a small percentage of machines.
Its more of a crutch to help vista pull its own obese weight. Many have
reported a NEGATIVE result when trying it on machines with much ram.
- Vista is not compatible with XP when in dual boot, since its restore
format conflicts with XP and XP detects it and erases it. Clearly a vista
problem since the vista designers should have taken this into account.
-The colors and fonts and general design of the theme makes it hard to see
the information presented. Numerous people have complained about this with
good cause.
- The SPEECH to Text function is a joke. It doesnt work!
- Vistas "better memory management" is a myth. By loading vast amount of
data on to the ram and therefore "using it all" there is no significant
improvement in performance compared to XP. In fact XP wins hands down on
almost all comparisons.
- The fast vista boot is also a myth. Systems with lots of programs
installed,
start just as slow as XP
- The "Branded sounds" in Vista was a stupid thing that users don't like and
are looking for ways to change.
- Windows Mail uses EML format and that creates thousands upon thousands of
files when you have lots of emails, the result is slower loading of windows
mail and very bad performance.
- The simplified vista DEFRAGMENT with no visual feedback is slower, and
most people absolutely hate it. A clear degrade from XP's defrag. The result
is people searching for third party solutions
-Copying and moving files in vista is a joke.. even deleting small files
takes up to much time.
-Network speed is horrendous
-People hate the internet explorer 7 toolbar that cannot be configured.
-SP1 will not save vista, its bad design is so well integrated that nothing
can save it.
-Windows vista is over-all comparably the worse OS Microsoft has ever made..
even worse that windows Me.
-The cost of use of vista (in time, labor and upgrade expenses) is more than
anything ever seen before.
-People who really like vista are stupid. No one who has above average
intelligence could actually think vista is a good OS. Sorry guys.

Over all vista has a "not finished" badly designed, amateur, and stupid
feeling to it that frustrates the common user. So much that people have shot
vista computers with guns!


I have more.. I might add with later posts...

I fully agree with you and went back to XP Pro
"I eat vista" <> wrote in message
news:...
>I am very happy to say that things I have been saying over the past 1 year
> are all confirmed. Of course I am sad to see that I had to say all these
> things in the first place.
> Vista should have been better, then no need for criticism and rejection
> would exist.
>
> - Vista is far slower than XP
> - Vista search is horrid, slow, gets corrupted and thrashes the disk. The
> service should be turned off. It doesnt work.
> - The vista start menu design is extremely bad, with menus that collapse
> upon itself.
> - Vista is unstable and incompatible with no great reason since it is NT
> kernel.
> - Vista is not user friendly, creating frustration to the simple user
> - Readyboost is a gimmick that helps only a small percentage of machines.
> Its more of a crutch to help vista pull its own obese weight. Many have
> reported a NEGATIVE result when trying it on machines with much ram.
> - Vista is not compatible with XP when in dual boot, since its restore
> format conflicts with XP and XP detects it and erases it. Clearly a vista
> problem since the vista designers should have taken this into account.
> -The colors and fonts and general design of the theme makes it hard to see
> the information presented. Numerous people have complained about this with
> good cause.
> - The SPEECH to Text function is a joke. It doesnt work!
> - Vistas "better memory management" is a myth. By loading vast amount of
> data on to the ram and therefore "using it all" there is no significant
> improvement in performance compared to XP. In fact XP wins hands down on
> almost all comparisons.
> - The fast vista boot is also a myth. Systems with lots of programs
> installed,
> start just as slow as XP
> - The "Branded sounds" in Vista was a stupid thing that users don't like
> and
> are looking for ways to change.
> - Windows Mail uses EML format and that creates thousands upon thousands
> of
> files when you have lots of emails, the result is slower loading of
> windows
> mail and very bad performance.
> - The simplified vista DEFRAGMENT with no visual feedback is slower, and
> most people absolutely hate it. A clear degrade from XP's defrag. The
> result
> is people searching for third party solutions
> -Copying and moving files in vista is a joke.. even deleting small files
> takes up to much time.
> -Network speed is horrendous
> -People hate the internet explorer 7 toolbar that cannot be configured.
> -SP1 will not save vista, its bad design is so well integrated that
> nothing
> can save it.
> -Windows vista is over-all comparably the worse OS Microsoft has ever
> made..
> even worse that windows Me.
> -The cost of use of vista (in time, labor and upgrade expenses) is more
> than anything ever seen before.
> -People who really like vista are stupid. No one who has above average
> intelligence could actually think vista is a good OS. Sorry guys.
>
> Over all vista has a "not finished" badly designed, amateur, and stupid
> feeling to it that frustrates the common user. So much that people have
> shot vista computers with guns!
>
>
> I have more.. I might add with later posts...
>
>
>
>

"I eat vista" <> wrote in message
news:...

> -People who really like vista are stupid. No one who has above average
> intelligence could actually think vista is a good OS. Sorry guys.

That's an opinion, not a fact. It also presupposes that people who really
like Vista think it's a good OS. I really like Vista but would never call
it
a good OS. It won't be good for a few years until most of the major
problems have been fixed by service packs, updates, etc. Look at how
long XP has been out and bugs are still being fixed in it!

Tom Lake

I eat vista wrote:
> I am very happy to say that things I have been saying over the past 1 year
> are all confirmed. Of course I am sad to see that I had to say all these
> things in the first place.
> Vista should have been better, then no need for criticism and rejection
> would exist.
>
> - Vista is far slower than XP
> - Vista search is horrid, slow, gets corrupted and thrashes the disk. The
> service should be turned off. It doesnt work.
> - The vista start menu design is extremely bad, with menus that collapse
> upon itself.
> - Vista is unstable and incompatible with no great reason since it is NT
> kernel.
> - Vista is not user friendly, creating frustration to the simple user
> - Readyboost is a gimmick that helps only a small percentage of machines.
> Its more of a crutch to help vista pull its own obese weight. Many have
> reported a NEGATIVE result when trying it on machines with much ram.
> - Vista is not compatible with XP when in dual boot, since its restore
> format conflicts with XP and XP detects it and erases it. Clearly a vista
> problem since the vista designers should have taken this into account.
> -The colors and fonts and general design of the theme makes it hard to see
> the information presented. Numerous people have complained about this with
> good cause.
> - The SPEECH to Text function is a joke. It doesnt work!
> - Vistas "better memory management" is a myth. By loading vast amount of
> data on to the ram and therefore "using it all" there is no significant
> improvement in performance compared to XP. In fact XP wins hands down on
> almost all comparisons.
> - The fast vista boot is also a myth. Systems with lots of programs
> installed,
> start just as slow as XP
> - The "Branded sounds" in Vista was a stupid thing that users don't like and
> are looking for ways to change.
> - Windows Mail uses EML format and that creates thousands upon thousands of
> files when you have lots of emails, the result is slower loading of windows
> mail and very bad performance.
> - The simplified vista DEFRAGMENT with no visual feedback is slower, and
> most people absolutely hate it. A clear degrade from XP's defrag. The result
> is people searching for third party solutions
> -Copying and moving files in vista is a joke.. even deleting small files
> takes up to much time.
> -Network speed is horrendous
> -People hate the internet explorer 7 toolbar that cannot be configured.
> -SP1 will not save vista, its bad design is so well integrated that nothing
> can save it.
> -Windows vista is over-all comparably the worse OS Microsoft has ever made..
> even worse that windows Me.
> -The cost of use of vista (in time, labor and upgrade expenses) is more than
> anything ever seen before.
> -People who really like vista are stupid. No one who has above average
> intelligence could actually think vista is a good OS. Sorry guys.
>
> Over all vista has a "not finished" badly designed, amateur, and stupid
> feeling to it that frustrates the common user. So much that people have shot
> vista computers with guns!
>
>
> I have more.. I might add with later posts...
>

Please add some of my 'favorite' annoyances:

- Impossible to change language of the OS (unless it is Zulu)
- Impossible to resize some windows (core-Vista windows. I have windows
in IIS7/msconfig that contain information I cannot read because it is
behind a button or something like that.)
- Why can Vista not copy a 300MB file from cdrom?
I am sure my old W95 box could do that...
I get exceptions/errors thrown at my head if I try. (Workaround, zip the
file from cdrom to desktop, unzip it there. Even if the zipping gives 0
results in smaller filesize, it circumvents Vistas inability to copy
large files.)

Regards,
Erwin Moller

I eat vista;454408 Wrote:
>
>
> I have more.. I might add with later posts...

I feel so fortunate :sarc:

Honestly, most of this is mis-informed opinion. Vista was a bumpy ride
back in January but things have gotten much better.


--
bob_c_b

On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 10:41:40 -0400, Tom Lake wrote:

> "I eat vista" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>
>> -People who really like vista are stupid. No one who has above average
>> intelligence could actually think vista is a good OS. Sorry guys.
>
> That's an opinion, not a fact. It also presupposes that people who
> really like Vista think it's a good OS. I really like Vista but would
> never call it
> a good OS. It won't be good for a few years until most of the major
> problems have been fixed by service packs, updates, etc. Look at how
> long XP has been out and bugs are still being fixed in it!
>

Most of them won't probably be significantly addressed. Some will
certainly be, but for the most part, what actual incentive does MS have
to do anything about it?

MS doesn't make it's majority of windows sales from people willingly
going out and buying it.

They get their majority of Windows sales from the OEM PC retail channels
where most the time the customer ultimately has no choice. If they want
to buy a new PC, it'll probably have Vista on it if they want it or not.

Especially starting next year when MS will stop selling XP.

So considering that kind of an environment, what incentive does MS have
to provide a better product? What incentive does MS have to fix existing
problems? What incentive does MS have to do anything when most their
customers are forced to use their product no matter what state it is in?

Yes alternatives are emerging, and I am using such an alternative almost
exclusively myself these days. However, until OEM's start adopting such
alternatives mainstream and really start offering them as mainstream
replacements and not a "You have to know it exists to find it" type of
deal, and until it starts hurting MS' bottom line...until then, MS is
going to continue to be the complacent lazy giant it is right now. Though
if that does happen...then it might be too late for MS.

Gaining and keeping customers is easy. Regaining lost customers on the
other hand, now that one is extremely difficult.

--
Stephan
2003 Yamaha R6

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Then Switch To Either Windows Server 2008 Beta 3 Public Beta, Or Open Source
Linux Ubuntu 7.04 RTW And Stop Complaining About Windows Vista RTM, Just
FYI.

"I eat vista" <> wrote in message
news:...
> I am very happy to say that things I have been saying over the past 1 year
> are all confirmed. Of course I am sad to see that I had to say all these
> things in the first place.
> Vista should have been better, then no need for criticism and rejection
> would exist.
>
> - Vista is far slower than XP
> - Vista search is horrid, slow, gets corrupted and thrashes the disk. The
> service should be turned off. It doesnt work.
> - The vista start menu design is extremely bad, with menus that collapse
> upon itself.
> - Vista is unstable and incompatible with no great reason since it is NT
> kernel.
> - Vista is not user friendly, creating frustration to the simple user
> - Readyboost is a gimmick that helps only a small percentage of machines.
> Its more of a crutch to help vista pull its own obese weight. Many have
> reported a NEGATIVE result when trying it on machines with much ram.
> - Vista is not compatible with XP when in dual boot, since its restore
> format conflicts with XP and XP detects it and erases it. Clearly a vista
> problem since the vista designers should have taken this into account.
> -The colors and fonts and general design of the theme makes it hard to see
> the information presented. Numerous people have complained about this with
> good cause.
> - The SPEECH to Text function is a joke. It doesnt work!
> - Vistas "better memory management" is a myth. By loading vast amount of
> data on to the ram and therefore "using it all" there is no significant
> improvement in performance compared to XP. In fact XP wins hands down on
> almost all comparisons.
> - The fast vista boot is also a myth. Systems with lots of programs
> installed,
> start just as slow as XP
> - The "Branded sounds" in Vista was a stupid thing that users don't like
> and
> are looking for ways to change.
> - Windows Mail uses EML format and that creates thousands upon thousands
> of
> files when you have lots of emails, the result is slower loading of
> windows
> mail and very bad performance.
> - The simplified vista DEFRAGMENT with no visual feedback is slower, and
> most people absolutely hate it. A clear degrade from XP's defrag. The
> result
> is people searching for third party solutions
> -Copying and moving files in vista is a joke.. even deleting small files
> takes up to much time.
> -Network speed is horrendous
> -People hate the internet explorer 7 toolbar that cannot be configured.
> -SP1 will not save vista, its bad design is so well integrated that
> nothing
> can save it.
> -Windows vista is over-all comparably the worse OS Microsoft has ever
> made..
> even worse that windows Me.
> -The cost of use of vista (in time, labor and upgrade expenses) is more
> than anything ever seen before.
> -People who really like vista are stupid. No one who has above average
> intelligence could actually think vista is a good OS. Sorry guys.
>
> Over all vista has a "not finished" badly designed, amateur, and stupid
> feeling to it that frustrates the common user. So much that people have
> shot vista computers with guns!
>
>
> I have more.. I might add with later posts...
>
>
>
>

I eat vista wrote:
> I am very happy to say that things I have been saying over the past 1 year
> are all confirmed. Of course I am sad to see that I had to say all these
> things in the first place.
> Vista should have been better, then no need for criticism and rejection
> would exist.
>
> - Vista is far slower than XP
> - Vista search is horrid, slow, gets corrupted and thrashes the disk. The
> service should be turned off. It doesnt work.
> - The vista start menu design is extremely bad, with menus that collapse
> upon itself.
> - Vista is unstable and incompatible with no great reason since it is NT
> kernel.
> - Vista is not user friendly, creating frustration to the simple user
> - Readyboost is a gimmick that helps only a small percentage of machines.
> Its more of a crutch to help vista pull its own obese weight. Many have
> reported a NEGATIVE result when trying it on machines with much ram.
> - Vista is not compatible with XP when in dual boot, since its restore
> format conflicts with XP and XP detects it and erases it. Clearly a vista
> problem since the vista designers should have taken this into account.
> -The colors and fonts and general design of the theme makes it hard to see
> the information presented. Numerous people have complained about this with
> good cause.
> - The SPEECH to Text function is a joke. It doesnt work!
> - Vistas "better memory management" is a myth. By loading vast amount of
> data on to the ram and therefore "using it all" there is no significant
> improvement in performance compared to XP. In fact XP wins hands down on
> almost all comparisons.
> - The fast vista boot is also a myth. Systems with lots of programs
> installed,
> start just as slow as XP
> - The "Branded sounds" in Vista was a stupid thing that users don't like and
> are looking for ways to change.
> - Windows Mail uses EML format and that creates thousands upon thousands of
> files when you have lots of emails, the result is slower loading of windows
> mail and very bad performance.
> - The simplified vista DEFRAGMENT with no visual feedback is slower, and
> most people absolutely hate it. A clear degrade from XP's defrag. The result
> is people searching for third party solutions
> -Copying and moving files in vista is a joke.. even deleting small files
> takes up to much time.
> -Network speed is horrendous
> -People hate the internet explorer 7 toolbar that cannot be configured.
> -SP1 will not save vista, its bad design is so well integrated that nothing
> can save it.
> -Windows vista is over-all comparably the worse OS Microsoft has ever made..
> even worse that windows Me.
> -The cost of use of vista (in time, labor and upgrade expenses) is more than
> anything ever seen before.
> -People who really like vista are stupid. No one who has above average
> intelligence could actually think vista is a good OS. Sorry guys.
>
> Over all vista has a "not finished" badly designed, amateur, and stupid
> feeling to it that frustrates the common user. So much that people have shot
> vista computers with guns!
>
>
> I have more.. I might add with later posts...
>
>
>
>
hehehe...most of what you post is simply not true and the rest is just
your personal opinion.
My advice to you is to go back to XP and never leave your moms basement
again...lol!
Frank

Again, another useless post from an IDIOT. Nobody should switch to Windows
2008 Server as a desktop solution. Just FYI. Stupid response.


<> wrote in message
news:474E2359-1D57-4244-8C35-...
> Then Switch To Either Windows Server 2008 Beta 3 Public Beta, Or Open
> Source Linux Ubuntu 7.04 RTW And Stop Complaining About Windows Vista RTM,
> Just FYI.
>
> "I eat vista" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> I am very happy to say that things I have been saying over the past 1
>> year
>> are all confirmed. Of course I am sad to see that I had to say all these
>> things in the first place.
>> Vista should have been better, then no need for criticism and rejection
>> would exist.
>>
>> - Vista is far slower than XP
>> - Vista search is horrid, slow, gets corrupted and thrashes the disk. The
>> service should be turned off. It doesnt work.
>> - The vista start menu design is extremely bad, with menus that collapse
>> upon itself.
>> - Vista is unstable and incompatible with no great reason since it is NT
>> kernel.
>> - Vista is not user friendly, creating frustration to the simple user
>> - Readyboost is a gimmick that helps only a small percentage of machines.
>> Its more of a crutch to help vista pull its own obese weight. Many have
>> reported a NEGATIVE result when trying it on machines with much ram.
>> - Vista is not compatible with XP when in dual boot, since its restore
>> format conflicts with XP and XP detects it and erases it. Clearly a vista
>> problem since the vista designers should have taken this into account.
>> -The colors and fonts and general design of the theme makes it hard to
>> see
>> the information presented. Numerous people have complained about this
>> with
>> good cause.
>> - The SPEECH to Text function is a joke. It doesnt work!
>> - Vistas "better memory management" is a myth. By loading vast amount of
>> data on to the ram and therefore "using it all" there is no significant
>> improvement in performance compared to XP. In fact XP wins hands down on
>> almost all comparisons.
>> - The fast vista boot is also a myth. Systems with lots of programs
>> installed,
>> start just as slow as XP
>> - The "Branded sounds" in Vista was a stupid thing that users don't like
>> and
>> are looking for ways to change.
>> - Windows Mail uses EML format and that creates thousands upon thousands
>> of
>> files when you have lots of emails, the result is slower loading of
>> windows
>> mail and very bad performance.
>> - The simplified vista DEFRAGMENT with no visual feedback is slower, and
>> most people absolutely hate it. A clear degrade from XP's defrag. The
>> result
>> is people searching for third party solutions
>> -Copying and moving files in vista is a joke.. even deleting small files
>> takes up to much time.
>> -Network speed is horrendous
>> -People hate the internet explorer 7 toolbar that cannot be configured.
>> -SP1 will not save vista, its bad design is so well integrated that
>> nothing
>> can save it.
>> -Windows vista is over-all comparably the worse OS Microsoft has ever
>> made..
>> even worse that windows Me.
>> -The cost of use of vista (in time, labor and upgrade expenses) is more
>> than anything ever seen before.
>> -People who really like vista are stupid. No one who has above average
>> intelligence could actually think vista is a good OS. Sorry guys.
>>
>> Over all vista has a "not finished" badly designed, amateur, and stupid
>> feeling to it that frustrates the common user. So much that people have
>> shot vista computers with guns!
>>
>>
>> I have more.. I might add with later posts...
>>
>>
>>
>>

Windows Server 2008 Beta 3 Public Beta Is A Much Better Operating System
Then Windows Vista RTM, Just FYI.

"Bill Yanaire" <> wrote in message
news:u#HqASU#...
> Again, another useless post from an IDIOT. Nobody should switch to
> Windows 2008 Server as a desktop solution. Just FYI. Stupid response.
>
>
> <> wrote in message
> news:474E2359-1D57-4244-8C35-...
>> Then Switch To Either Windows Server 2008 Beta 3 Public Beta, Or Open
>> Source Linux Ubuntu 7.04 RTW And Stop Complaining About Windows Vista
>> RTM, Just FYI.
>>
>> "I eat vista" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>> I am very happy to say that things I have been saying over the past 1
>>> year
>>> are all confirmed. Of course I am sad to see that I had to say all these
>>> things in the first place.
>>> Vista should have been better, then no need for criticism and rejection
>>> would exist.
>>>
>>> - Vista is far slower than XP
>>> - Vista search is horrid, slow, gets corrupted and thrashes the disk.
>>> The
>>> service should be turned off. It doesnt work.
>>> - The vista start menu design is extremely bad, with menus that collapse
>>> upon itself.
>>> - Vista is unstable and incompatible with no great reason since it is NT
>>> kernel.
>>> - Vista is not user friendly, creating frustration to the simple user
>>> - Readyboost is a gimmick that helps only a small percentage of
>>> machines.
>>> Its more of a crutch to help vista pull its own obese weight. Many have
>>> reported a NEGATIVE result when trying it on machines with much ram.
>>> - Vista is not compatible with XP when in dual boot, since its restore
>>> format conflicts with XP and XP detects it and erases it. Clearly a
>>> vista
>>> problem since the vista designers should have taken this into account.
>>> -The colors and fonts and general design of the theme makes it hard to
>>> see
>>> the information presented. Numerous people have complained about this
>>> with
>>> good cause.
>>> - The SPEECH to Text function is a joke. It doesnt work!
>>> - Vistas "better memory management" is a myth. By loading vast amount of
>>> data on to the ram and therefore "using it all" there is no significant
>>> improvement in performance compared to XP. In fact XP wins hands down on
>>> almost all comparisons.
>>> - The fast vista boot is also a myth. Systems with lots of programs
>>> installed,
>>> start just as slow as XP
>>> - The "Branded sounds" in Vista was a stupid thing that users don't like
>>> and
>>> are looking for ways to change.
>>> - Windows Mail uses EML format and that creates thousands upon thousands
>>> of
>>> files when you have lots of emails, the result is slower loading of
>>> windows
>>> mail and very bad performance.
>>> - The simplified vista DEFRAGMENT with no visual feedback is slower, and
>>> most people absolutely hate it. A clear degrade from XP's defrag. The
>>> result
>>> is people searching for third party solutions
>>> -Copying and moving files in vista is a joke.. even deleting small files
>>> takes up to much time.
>>> -Network speed is horrendous
>>> -People hate the internet explorer 7 toolbar that cannot be configured.
>>> -SP1 will not save vista, its bad design is so well integrated that
>>> nothing
>>> can save it.
>>> -Windows vista is over-all comparably the worse OS Microsoft has ever
>>> made..
>>> even worse that windows Me.
>>> -The cost of use of vista (in time, labor and upgrade expenses) is more
>>> than anything ever seen before.
>>> -People who really like vista are stupid. No one who has above average
>>> intelligence could actually think vista is a good OS. Sorry guys.
>>>
>>> Over all vista has a "not finished" badly designed, amateur, and stupid
>>> feeling to it that frustrates the common user. So much that people have
>>> shot vista computers with guns!
>>>
>>>
>>> I have more.. I might add with later posts...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>