All this crap about drivers

I don't get it.

Is it common practise for people to buy new OS's and install them on
their existing computers and expect everything to work perfectly?

I wouldn't dream of doing that. I did what I imagined everyone else
would have done - use their existing PC up until it became so outdated
it would no longer run new software, then buy a brand new system with
the latest OS, latest software, latest hardware, then simply restore
from backups any old stuff that I still wanted from my last machine.

Is this not what people are doing? Are they getting their 4 or 5 year
old systems, installing Vista on it and then being surprised that it's
not powerful enough to run and it won't recognise their old hardware?

..... I don't get it.

You probably never will.
What bothers people is that they buy a new system and expect it to be better
than their old.

http://weblog.infoworld.com/save-xp/



"Lukan" <> wrote in message
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> I don't get it.
>
> Is it common practise for people to buy new OS's and install them on their
> existing computers and expect everything to work perfectly?
>
> I wouldn't dream of doing that. I did what I imagined everyone else would
> have done - use their existing PC up until it became so outdated it would
> no longer run new software, then buy a brand new system with the latest
> OS, latest software, latest hardware, then simply restore from backups any
> old stuff that I still wanted from my last machine.
>
> Is this not what people are doing? Are they getting their 4 or 5 year old
> systems, installing Vista on it and then being surprised that it's not
> powerful enough to run and it won't recognise their old hardware?
>
> .... I don't get it.

"Lukan" <> wrote in message
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> Is this not what people are doing? Are they getting their 4 or 5 year old
> systems, installing Vista on it and then being surprised that it's not
> powerful enough to run and it won't recognise their old hardware?
>
> .... I don't get it.


Yes, that's exactly what lots of people are doing. It gives them something
to complain about.

I think there is a combo of both. I have a desktop computer that started out
with Windows 98 and with hardware updates as well, is now XP Pro. No plans
to take it to Vista, but I could if I wanted to. Then I have 2 laptops that
I bought
with Vista - one was 64 bit that we reformatted to 32 bit since a program
needed
on it wouldn't run on 64 bit and an older laptop that used to have XP Pro
that now
has Vista on it as well.

But I always do clean installs when changing OS which I think a lot of
people don't
do. They just use the upgrade editions and imo, that is asking for trouble.
I always
re-format the drive and start fresh and have had very little problems.

Think it depends on your level of expertise.

Lori

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"Lukan" <> wrote in message
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> I don't get it.
>
> Is it common practise for people to buy new OS's and install them on their
> existing computers and expect everything to work perfectly?
>
> I wouldn't dream of doing that. I did what I imagined everyone else would
> have done - use their existing PC up until it became so outdated it would
> no longer run new software, then buy a brand new system with the latest
> OS, latest software, latest hardware, then simply restore from backups any
> old stuff that I still wanted from my last machine.
>
> Is this not what people are doing? Are they getting their 4 or 5 year old
> systems, installing Vista on it and then being surprised that it's not
> powerful enough to run and it won't recognise their old hardware?
>
> .... I don't get it.

On Apr 14, 2:22*am, Lukan <gr...@charltjonn.org> wrote:
> I don't get it.
>
> Is it common practise for people to buy new OS's and install them on
> their existing computers and expect everything to work perfectly?
>
> I wouldn't dream of doing that. *I did what I imagined everyone else
> would have done - use their existing PC up until it became so outdated
> it would no longer run new software, then buy a brand new system with
> the latest OS, latest software, latest hardware, then simply restore
> from backups any old stuff that I still wanted from my last machine.
>
> Is this not what people are doing? *Are they getting their 4 or 5 year
> old systems, installing Vista on it and then being surprised that it's
> not powerful enough to run and it won't recognise their old hardware?
>
> .... I don't get it.

I agree with your perspective. A couple of points to consider; 1)
Microsoft did not push the upgrade to Vista route as they did with
past OS'es, nonetheless, many people did upgrade without buying new,
2) many new machines sold were and are underpowered for Vista.

Microsoft does make hardware recommendations for a minimum
configuration; however, I don't think that is nearly enough. Those
people with the minimum configuration are very unhappy with Vista. For
them, going back to XP is better. But, for those who are not
underpowered, Vista is faster, better and more productive than XP. I
think MS made a mistake with the minimum HW recommendation. I also
think that there are way too many flavors of Vista and that a minimum
HW config should've been a higher standard for each.

I wouldn't recommend running Vista with less than a 256MB video
graphics card, less than 2GB RAM or slower than a 1.9 GHz CPU. Still
there are a lot of computers being sold today that don't meet my
recommendations. I think those purchasers will be less than satisfied
with their Vista experience.

I have also noticed that there are a lot of people with complaints who
simply haven't learned how to use Vista's new features. I suspect that
they try to use Vista the exact same way they used XP and that is just
not taking advantage of the Vista experience.

-solon fox

Lukan wrote:

> I don't get it.
>
> Is it common practise for people to buy new OS's and install them on
> their existing computers and expect everything to work perfectly?
>
> I wouldn't dream of doing that. I did what I imagined everyone else
> would have done - use their existing PC up until it became so outdated
> it would no longer run new software, then buy a brand new system with
> the latest OS, latest software, latest hardware, then simply restore
> from backups any old stuff that I still wanted from my last machine.
>
> Is this not what people are doing? Are they getting their 4 or 5 year
> old systems, installing Vista on it and then being surprised that it's
> not powerful enough to run and it won't recognise their old hardware?
>
> .... I don't get it.

What about all the people complaining about Vista coming with new
machines?

Do you get that?

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On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 06:40:57 -0400, "Bob Campbell" <>
wrote:

>"Lukan" <> wrote in message
>news:ftut6m$45h$...
>> Is this not what people are doing? Are they getting their 4 or 5 year old
>> systems, installing Vista on it and then being surprised that it's not
>> powerful enough to run and it won't recognise their old hardware?
>>
>> .... I don't get it.
>
>
>Yes, that's exactly what lots of people are doing. It gives them something
>to complain about.

I rather see people complain about FACTUAL things that are messed up
in Vista than crawling on their hands and knees seeing who can get to
the head of the line to kiss Microsoft butt singing another chorus of
Steve Ballmer super star. That idiot can't even get the Yahoo deal
done. Just wondering, you buy you knee pads by the carton?

"kurttrail" <> wrote in message
news:H2JMj.36338$.. .
> Lukan wrote:
>
>> I don't get it.
>>
>> Is it common practise for people to buy new OS's and install them on
>> their existing computers and expect everything to work perfectly?
>>
>> I wouldn't dream of doing that. I did what I imagined everyone else
>> would have done - use their existing PC up until it became so outdated
>> it would no longer run new software, then buy a brand new system with
>> the latest OS, latest software, latest hardware, then simply restore
>> from backups any old stuff that I still wanted from my last machine.
>>
>> Is this not what people are doing? Are they getting their 4 or 5 year
>> old systems, installing Vista on it and then being surprised that it's
>> not powerful enough to run and it won't recognise their old hardware?
>>
>> .... I don't get it.
>
> What about all the people complaining about Vista coming with new
> machines?
>
> Do you get that?
>
What about all the people who install Ubuntu and say, WTF?

"LAB Enterprises" <> wrote in message
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> one was 64 bit that we reformatted to 32 bit since a program needed on it
> wouldn't run on 64 bit

What program did not run on 64 bit? Did it need a special driver? I've
never heard of a 32 bit APP that would not run on 64 bit Vista.