To all: Do a clean install...

A lot of the problems you are running in to with SP1 can be eliminated
simply by doing a clean install:
Vista
mobo chipset and LAN drivers
SP1
back up with something like Acronis TI 11 so you can always restart from
here if you choose.
go for it.


Just a thought.

You'll spend a lot of time trying to modify an already modified system and
make it work. Life's too short for that! You can insist on should's, but
this is a real world.

Vista with SP1 is really simple, and it works!
--
Kris
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DFI Infinity Blood-Iron P35-T2RL | E2200Alen 2.2@2.86 TtP0310 |
| 2x1gb Mushkin HP 800@1040 | MSI NX8600GTS-OC 256mb |
| Raidmax RX530-SS psu | Vista Ult 32 SP1

Kris wrote:
> A lot of the problems you are running in to with SP1 can be eliminated
> simply by doing a clean install:
> Vista
> mobo chipset and LAN drivers
> SP1
> back up with something like Acronis TI 11 so you can always restart from
> here if you choose.
> go for it.
>
>
> Just a thought.
>
> You'll spend a lot of time trying to modify an already modified system and
> make it work. Life's too short for that! You can insist on should's, but
> this is a real world.
>
> Vista with SP1 is really simple, and it works!



When i was fooling around trying to get SP1 installed...I did have a
clean install of Vista. I tried a lot of different ways and finally got
it installed by specifying the /quiet switch. No, I don't know why that
worked.

However I just realized one thing I did not try that maybe would have
worked too.

Take a fresh drive and install SP1 first...THEN Vista <G>

(Just an early April 1 joke)

Kris wrote:
> A lot of the problems you are running in to with SP1 can be eliminated
> simply by doing a clean install:
> Vista
> mobo chipset and LAN drivers
> SP1
> back up with something like Acronis TI 11 so you can always restart from
> here if you choose.
> go for it.
>
>
> Just a thought.
>
> You'll spend a lot of time trying to modify an already modified system and
> make it work. Life's too short for that! You can insist on should's, but
> this is a real world.
>
> Vista with SP1 is really simple, and it works!

That Is Not Possible 4 Some Windows Vista Users, As Some OEM's Do Not
Give The Customer The Operating System Restore CD, Just FYI.

On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 15:30:45 -0400, Kris <> wrote:

> A lot of the problems you are running in to with SP1


I have run into *no* problems with SP1.


> can be eliminated
> simply by doing a clean install:


A clean installation is almost never required. Doing so typically
creates lots of extra work, and can often create problems of its own.

My Windows Ultimate system was upgraded from Windows XP Professional
in November 2006. It has been running trouble free since then, and has
continued to be trouble-free since I installed SP1 last week.



> Vista
> mobo chipset and LAN drivers
> SP1
> back up with something like Acronis TI 11 so you can always restart from
> here if you choose.
> go for it.
>
>
> Just a thought.
>
> You'll spend a lot of time trying to modify an already modified system and
> make it work. Life's too short for that! You can insist on should's, but
> this is a real world.
>
> Vista with SP1 is really simple, and it works!
> --
> Kris
> ------------
> DFI Infinity Blood-Iron P35-T2RL | E2200Alen 2.2@2.86 TtP0310 |
> | 2x1gb Mushkin HP 800@1040 | MSI NX8600GTS-OC 256mb |
> | Raidmax RX530-SS psu | Vista Ult 32 SP1

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Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
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Ken Blake, MVP wrote:

> On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 15:30:45 -0400, Kris <> wrote:
>
>> A lot of the problems you are running in to with SP1
>
>
> I have run into *no* problems with SP1.
>

So your install is perfect? Totally bug-free after SP1?

That would be a miracle.

>
>> can be eliminated
>> simply by doing a clean install:
>
>
> A clean installation is almost never required.

You are quite correct, Ken. It is not required, but I know I like
formatting and clean installing, from time to time, especially when it
comes Service Pack time.

It's a shame that MS killed of slipstreaming SPs, and creating install
disks with the SP integrated.

That would be my preferred, not required, method of deploying Service
Packs.

> Doing so typically
> creates lots of extra work,

Well worth it, IMO.

> and can often create problems of its own.

More than trying to install a Service Pack on top of an already messed up
install? I think not.

> My Windows Ultimate system was upgraded from Windows XP Professional in
> November 2006. It has been running trouble free since then, and has
> continued to be trouble-free since I installed SP1 last week.

Yes, I think you've already told us that you have the Jesus Christ of
Vista installs.

Vista, like every OS made by humans, or that will ever be made by humans,
is imperfect in its very nature, because it is made by us imperfect human
beings. You lose all credibility when you so openly lie.

"No problems" "Trouble-free" No one in their right mind is gonna
believe that.

It's like a Mac advocate saying that OSX is totally secure from malware.
No intelligent non-fanboy human being believes that, any more than they
would believe that you have a "trouble-free" install of Vista, as that
just cannot possibly exist.

Vista isn't the effin' Second Coming. Vista is flawed, just like every
other thing made by humans.

--
Peace!
Kurt
Former Self-anointed Moderator
microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"

wrote:
> Kris wrote:
>> A lot of the problems you are running in to with SP1 can be eliminated
>> simply by doing a clean install:
>> Vista
>> mobo chipset and LAN drivers
>> SP1
>> back up with something like Acronis TI 11 so you can always restart from
>> here if you choose.
>> go for it.
>>
>>
>> Just a thought.
>>
>> You'll spend a lot of time trying to modify an already modified system
>> and
>> make it work. Life's too short for that! You can insist on should's,
>> but
>> this is a real world.
>>
>> Vista with SP1 is really simple, and it works!
>
> That Is Not Possible 4 Some Windows Vista Users, As Some OEM's Do Not
> Give The Customer The Operating System Restore CD, Just FYI.

If they don't give you the restore CD they have an image on a partition
on the hard drive which you can use to reinstall clean or create a disc
from the image in order to reinstall clean.

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The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly Known as Nina DiBoy'
wrote:
> wrote:
>> Kris wrote:
>>> A lot of the problems you are running in to with SP1 can be eliminated
>>> simply by doing a clean install:
>>> Vista
>>> mobo chipset and LAN drivers
>>> SP1
>>> back up with something like Acronis TI 11 so you can always restart from
>>> here if you choose.
>>> go for it.
>>>
>>>
>>> Just a thought.
>>>
>>> You'll spend a lot of time trying to modify an already modified
>>> system and
>>> make it work. Life's too short for that! You can insist on
>>> should's, but
>>> this is a real world.
>>>
>>> Vista with SP1 is really simple, and it works!
>>
>> That Is Not Possible 4 Some Windows Vista Users, As Some OEM's Do Not
>> Give The Customer The Operating System Restore CD, Just FYI.
>
> If they don't give you the restore CD they have an image on a partition
> on the hard drive which you can use to reinstall clean or create a disc
> from the image in order to reinstall clean.
>
All That Does Is Re-Install All The Ad Ware And Spy Ware With The
Operating System Itself, Just FYI.

<> wrote in message
news:...
> Kris wrote:
>> A lot of the problems you are running in to with SP1 can be eliminated
>> simply by doing a clean install:
>> Vista
>> mobo chipset and LAN drivers
>> SP1
>> back up with something like Acronis TI 11 so you can always restart from
>> here if you choose.
>> go for it.
>>
>>
>> Just a thought.
>>
>> You'll spend a lot of time trying to modify an already modified system
>> and
>> make it work. Life's too short for that! You can insist on should's,
>> but
>> this is a real world.
>>
>> Vista with SP1 is really simple, and it works!
>
> That Is Not Possible 4 Some Windows Vista Users, As Some OEM's Do Not Give
> The Customer The Operating System Restore CD, Just FYI.

Oops, I Goofed. It Is Possible And I Just Spanked Myself. Just FYI. OEM's
Give Their Customer The Restore Capability, Just FYI

My Doctors Asked My To Reformat Their Machines And Install Ubuntu Then
Windows 2008 Server Then Vista RTM With SP1, I Am So Excited. Just FYI

<> wrote in message
news:...
> The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly Known as Nina DiBoy'
> wrote:
>> wrote:
>>> Kris wrote:
>>>> A lot of the problems you are running in to with SP1 can be eliminated
>>>> simply by doing a clean install:
>>>> Vista
>>>> mobo chipset and LAN drivers
>>>> SP1
>>>> back up with something like Acronis TI 11 so you can always restart
>>>> from
>>>> here if you choose.
>>>> go for it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Just a thought.
>>>>
>>>> You'll spend a lot of time trying to modify an already modified system
>>>> and
>>>> make it work. Life's too short for that! You can insist on should's,
>>>> but
>>>> this is a real world.
>>>>
>>>> Vista with SP1 is really simple, and it works!
>>>
>>> That Is Not Possible 4 Some Windows Vista Users, As Some OEM's Do Not
>>> Give The Customer The Operating System Restore CD, Just FYI.
>>
>> If they don't give you the restore CD they have an image on a partition
>> on the hard drive which you can use to reinstall clean or create a disc
>> from the image in order to reinstall clean.
>>
> All That Does Is Re-Install All The Ad Ware And Spy Ware With The
> Operating System Itself, Just FYI.

Not Really Once I Thought About It. Just FYI. Ad Ware Should Be Adware And
Spy Ware Should Be Spyware, Just FYI. Too Much Medication Is Causing My
Tiny Brain To Hurt. Where Is Spanky When I Need Him. Spanky Is My Hero.
Just FYI.

I Want To Be Just Like Spanky deMonkey. Just FYI. Now I Should Reformat My
Machine Again. Sounds Like A Perfect Night. Just FYI

"kurttrail" <> wrote in message
news:UGAFj.324$...
> Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 15:30:45 -0400, Kris <> wrote:
>>
>>> A lot of the problems you are running in to with SP1
>>
>>
>> I have run into *no* problems with SP1.
>>
>
> So your install is perfect? Totally bug-free after SP1?
>
> That would be a miracle.

That Would Be A Miracle For You Because It Is Beyond Your Capabilities. For
Me, I Do It All Day Long And All Evening Long. Just FYI. Now Where Is The
TV Guide? Just FYI

>
>>
>>> can be eliminated
>>> simply by doing a clean install:
>>
>>
>> A clean installation is almost never required.
>
> You are quite correct, Ken. It is not required, but I know I like
> formatting and clean installing, from time to time, especially when it
> comes Service Pack time.
>
> It's a shame that MS killed of slipstreaming SPs, and creating install
> disks with the SP integrated.
>
> That would be my preferred, not required, method of deploying Service
> Packs.
>
>> Doing so typically
>> creates lots of extra work,
>
> Well worth it, IMO.
>
>> and can often create problems of its own.
>
> More than trying to install a Service Pack on top of an already messed up
> install? I think not.
>
>> My Windows Ultimate system was upgraded from Windows XP Professional in
>> November 2006. It has been running trouble free since then, and has
>> continued to be trouble-free since I installed SP1 last week.
>
> Yes, I think you've already told us that you have the Jesus Christ of
> Vista installs.
>
> Vista, like every OS made by humans, or that will ever be made by humans,
> is imperfect in its very nature, because it is made by us imperfect human
> beings. You lose all credibility when you so openly lie.
>
> "No problems" "Trouble-free" No one in their right mind is gonna
> believe that.
>
> It's like a Mac advocate saying that OSX is totally secure from malware.
> No intelligent non-fanboy human being believes that, any more than they
> would believe that you have a "trouble-free" install of Vista, as that
> just cannot possibly exist.
>
> Vista isn't the effin' Second Coming. Vista is flawed, just like every
> other thing made by humans.
>
> --
> Peace!
> Kurt
> Former Self-anointed Moderator
> microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
> "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"
>