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daniel
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      09-23-2007
it is just amazing reading all the complaints about vista. just, well sorry,
laughable.
I bought 3 laptops in january, all came with vista. I have never had ONE
problem with either one.

all those complaints!!!
the defrag sucks ?
Aero sucks ?
Chkdsk don't work ?
just upgraded the pc from xp to vista, now it's all garbage ? (bad choice
if you're not computer savvy,
your xp works just fine? then why fix something if it's not broken???).
just downloaded a game, installed it and now, VISTA is slowing everything
down ?
where the heck is gpedit ?
my office 2003 don't work with vista!
why is there only one log-on picture ?

tons and tons of it.
well, there are also tons and tons of vista forums which give you the best
advice, many tips and tricks.
there are many new free programs on the net, programmed already for vista
which can help you with so many things.
defrag, you want to see a picture of the process? get SpeedItUp ver 4,
you'll have your picture and more.
don't like Aero, see How-to Geek, it's all about vista. Helpero Vista
Support, Geeks to go Tech and then, of course, microsofts vista forums.
tons of great advice from very knowledgable people who have no problems with
vista.
need drivers, how about Drivers.com and there are others where you can get
free drivers.

I agree, there are a few things to learn about vista. but they are
interesting and not at all complicated.
one has to take the time to learn a bit about it. that's what I did. now I
know it.

I like vista. I did change it to Classic View on the beginning to make it
easier to find things but now, I am all vista.
there are some free programs out there with tweaks to make it even faster.
there are even programs which help you setup a wireless network with your
other computers.

I read, many have problems with backing up the original system. or backing
up files and then they can get it 'back'. lot's of help with that on the
forums from people who found the solution.

like I said, you find everything on the forums.

some advice:
stay away from upgrading older computers to vista. if your xp or even win 2k
works fine, leave it the way it is. if you really want vista, get a new
computer with the vista OS.

if you install a new program, do a clean install. how? you'll find that in
many forums.

if you install games from the net, watch it!!!
many have ads and even spyware which work in the background and they will
slow you down.
so, it's not vista's fault, it's your own! if vista run fast on the
beginning and now you installed/uninstalled 50 programs, it's not vista
doing it. or xp or any others.

need a good browser? try Avant. I use it since 4 years now. nothing
compares to it. firefox, opera, nooo.
example: I have 14websites open (on tabs). but not like IE. I can block out
anything I don't want. (active x, scripts, java applets, and many more).
just don't get the newest one. not vista compatible yet. get the older
version: ver 11.0 build 8.
then rename Avant.exe to iexplorer.exe. IE will still work, so will Avant
as default.

AVG is a good virus checker but Avast is better. checks and protects a lot
more.
(check virus program comparison. google)

Firewalls: do a comparison, you'll find that BalckIce is the best. I use
Sygate(number 2) 'cause it's free and
does more then the free Zonealarm(number 3). (well, if they offer free
ones, why not).

if you install games from the net, check it with Ad-Aware. will avoid a lot
of problems.

I also use RegSeeker (vista) to clean the registry after uninstalling a
program.
(type in the name of the program, say: SuperFind(fantastic program, by the
way), it will find that name in all the HKEY's, then Slect All, then Delete
or Block Out, depending how confident you're. it will make a backup before
deleting. then the registry is clean again and won't clatter up with the
left-overs of uninstalled programs.

when Uninstalling a program:
most of the programs leave the dll's, ocx's and what have you, in the
system32 folder. they can interfere with others
what I do: before I install a new program, I check the time. say: 11:48
am. if I don't like this program and I uninstall it again, then I open the
explorer (or Free Commander, very good), open the system32 folder, sort the
files to: Date Imported or Date Received. now I see today's date and the
time of the files which were left over from that installation. I mark those
files and move it into a temp0 directory.
I reboot, if everything works correct, I know I can now delete those files.
they are not being used from any
other program. another 'clutter' gone.
(I do search for other files with hat date and time with Superfind on drive
C:\).

CodeStuff Starter, one of the best programs to controll what is loaded on
start up. (all windows ver).

anyway, there will be most likely hell to pay for me from others here
writing all this but maybe it helps some people.

Vista overall: reliable, fast, lot's of things one can do with it, great
forums. better then XP? for me, yes.
then again, never had problems with XP either. it just came with the
computer.

good luck






vista's upgrades: I have it set to alert me but not auto install. that way,
I can see what the new upgrades are.




















 
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Mick Murphy
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      09-23-2007
About time; a very balanced post!

"daniel" wrote:

> it is just amazing reading all the complaints about vista. just, well sorry,
> laughable.
> I bought 3 laptops in january, all came with vista. I have never had ONE
> problem with either one.
>
> all those complaints!!!
> the defrag sucks ?
> Aero sucks ?
> Chkdsk don't work ?
> just upgraded the pc from xp to vista, now it's all garbage ? (bad choice
> if you're not computer savvy,
> your xp works just fine? then why fix something if it's not broken???).
> just downloaded a game, installed it and now, VISTA is slowing everything
> down ?
> where the heck is gpedit ?
> my office 2003 don't work with vista!
> why is there only one log-on picture ?
>
> tons and tons of it.
> well, there are also tons and tons of vista forums which give you the best
> advice, many tips and tricks.
> there are many new free programs on the net, programmed already for vista
> which can help you with so many things.
> defrag, you want to see a picture of the process? get SpeedItUp ver 4,
> you'll have your picture and more.
> don't like Aero, see How-to Geek, it's all about vista. Helpero Vista
> Support, Geeks to go Tech and then, of course, microsofts vista forums.
> tons of great advice from very knowledgable people who have no problems with
> vista.
> need drivers, how about Drivers.com and there are others where you can get
> free drivers.
>
> I agree, there are a few things to learn about vista. but they are
> interesting and not at all complicated.
> one has to take the time to learn a bit about it. that's what I did. now I
> know it.
>
> I like vista. I did change it to Classic View on the beginning to make it
> easier to find things but now, I am all vista.
> there are some free programs out there with tweaks to make it even faster.
> there are even programs which help you setup a wireless network with your
> other computers.
>
> I read, many have problems with backing up the original system. or backing
> up files and then they can get it 'back'. lot's of help with that on the
> forums from people who found the solution.
>
> like I said, you find everything on the forums.
>
> some advice:
> stay away from upgrading older computers to vista. if your xp or even win 2k
> works fine, leave it the way it is. if you really want vista, get a new
> computer with the vista OS.
>
> if you install a new program, do a clean install. how? you'll find that in
> many forums.
>
> if you install games from the net, watch it!!!
> many have ads and even spyware which work in the background and they will
> slow you down.
> so, it's not vista's fault, it's your own! if vista run fast on the
> beginning and now you installed/uninstalled 50 programs, it's not vista
> doing it. or xp or any others.
>
> need a good browser? try Avant. I use it since 4 years now. nothing
> compares to it. firefox, opera, nooo.
> example: I have 14websites open (on tabs). but not like IE. I can block out
> anything I don't want. (active x, scripts, java applets, and many more).
> just don't get the newest one. not vista compatible yet. get the older
> version: ver 11.0 build 8.
> then rename Avant.exe to iexplorer.exe. IE will still work, so will Avant
> as default.
>
> AVG is a good virus checker but Avast is better. checks and protects a lot
> more.
> (check virus program comparison. google)
>
> Firewalls: do a comparison, you'll find that BalckIce is the best. I use
> Sygate(number 2) 'cause it's free and
> does more then the free Zonealarm(number 3). (well, if they offer free
> ones, why not).
>
> if you install games from the net, check it with Ad-Aware. will avoid a lot
> of problems.
>
> I also use RegSeeker (vista) to clean the registry after uninstalling a
> program.
> (type in the name of the program, say: SuperFind(fantastic program, by the
> way), it will find that name in all the HKEY's, then Slect All, then Delete
> or Block Out, depending how confident you're. it will make a backup before
> deleting. then the registry is clean again and won't clatter up with the
> left-overs of uninstalled programs.
>
> when Uninstalling a program:
> most of the programs leave the dll's, ocx's and what have you, in the
> system32 folder. they can interfere with others
> what I do: before I install a new program, I check the time. say: 11:48
> am. if I don't like this program and I uninstall it again, then I open the
> explorer (or Free Commander, very good), open the system32 folder, sort the
> files to: Date Imported or Date Received. now I see today's date and the
> time of the files which were left over from that installation. I mark those
> files and move it into a temp0 directory.
> I reboot, if everything works correct, I know I can now delete those files.
> they are not being used from any
> other program. another 'clutter' gone.
> (I do search for other files with hat date and time with Superfind on drive
> C:\).
>
> CodeStuff Starter, one of the best programs to controll what is loaded on
> start up. (all windows ver).
>
> anyway, there will be most likely hell to pay for me from others here
> writing all this but maybe it helps some people.
>
> Vista overall: reliable, fast, lot's of things one can do with it, great
> forums. better then XP? for me, yes.
> then again, never had problems with XP either. it just came with the
> computer.
>
> good luck
>
>
>
>
>
>
> vista's upgrades: I have it set to alert me but not auto install. that way,
> I can see what the new upgrades are.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

 
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John Adams
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      09-23-2007
Good post, daniel.

For the majority of us who have had a great experience with Vista, it's
always good to see a sensible post about it.

- John

"daniel" <> wrote in message
news:WwzJi.8530$ ...
> it is just amazing reading all the complaints about vista. just, well
> sorry, laughable.
> I bought 3 laptops in january, all came with vista. I have never had ONE
> problem with either one.
>
> all those complaints!!!
> the defrag sucks ?
> Aero sucks ?
> Chkdsk don't work ?
> just upgraded the pc from xp to vista, now it's all garbage ? (bad choice
> if you're not computer savvy,
> your xp works just fine? then why fix something if it's not broken???).
> just downloaded a game, installed it and now, VISTA is slowing everything
> down ?
> where the heck is gpedit ?
> my office 2003 don't work with vista!
> why is there only one log-on picture ?
>
> tons and tons of it.
> well, there are also tons and tons of vista forums which give you the best
> advice, many tips and tricks.
> there are many new free programs on the net, programmed already for vista
> which can help you with so many things.
> defrag, you want to see a picture of the process? get SpeedItUp ver 4,
> you'll have your picture and more.
> don't like Aero, see How-to Geek, it's all about vista. Helpero Vista
> Support, Geeks to go Tech and then, of course, microsofts vista forums.
> tons of great advice from very knowledgable people who have no problems
> with vista.
> need drivers, how about Drivers.com and there are others where you can get
> free drivers.
>
> I agree, there are a few things to learn about vista. but they are
> interesting and not at all complicated.
> one has to take the time to learn a bit about it. that's what I did. now I
> know it.
>
> I like vista. I did change it to Classic View on the beginning to make it
> easier to find things but now, I am all vista.
> there are some free programs out there with tweaks to make it even faster.
> there are even programs which help you setup a wireless network with your
> other computers.
>
> I read, many have problems with backing up the original system. or backing
> up files and then they can get it 'back'. lot's of help with that on the
> forums from people who found the solution.
>
> like I said, you find everything on the forums.
>
> some advice:
> stay away from upgrading older computers to vista. if your xp or even win
> 2k works fine, leave it the way it is. if you really want vista, get a new
> computer with the vista OS.
>
> if you install a new program, do a clean install. how? you'll find that
> in many forums.
>
> if you install games from the net, watch it!!!
> many have ads and even spyware which work in the background and they will
> slow you down.
> so, it's not vista's fault, it's your own! if vista run fast on the
> beginning and now you installed/uninstalled 50 programs, it's not vista
> doing it. or xp or any others.
>
> need a good browser? try Avant. I use it since 4 years now. nothing
> compares to it. firefox, opera, nooo.
> example: I have 14websites open (on tabs). but not like IE. I can block
> out anything I don't want. (active x, scripts, java applets, and many
> more).
> just don't get the newest one. not vista compatible yet. get the older
> version: ver 11.0 build 8.
> then rename Avant.exe to iexplorer.exe. IE will still work, so will Avant
> as default.
>
> AVG is a good virus checker but Avast is better. checks and protects a lot
> more.
> (check virus program comparison. google)
>
> Firewalls: do a comparison, you'll find that BalckIce is the best. I use
> Sygate(number 2) 'cause it's free and
> does more then the free Zonealarm(number 3). (well, if they offer free
> ones, why not).
>
> if you install games from the net, check it with Ad-Aware. will avoid a
> lot of problems.
>
> I also use RegSeeker (vista) to clean the registry after uninstalling a
> program.
> (type in the name of the program, say: SuperFind(fantastic program, by the
> way), it will find that name in all the HKEY's, then Slect All, then
> Delete or Block Out, depending how confident you're. it will make a backup
> before deleting. then the registry is clean again and won't clatter up
> with the left-overs of uninstalled programs.
>
> when Uninstalling a program:
> most of the programs leave the dll's, ocx's and what have you, in the
> system32 folder. they can interfere with others
> what I do: before I install a new program, I check the time. say: 11:48
> am. if I don't like this program and I uninstall it again, then I open the
> explorer (or Free Commander, very good), open the system32 folder, sort
> the files to: Date Imported or Date Received. now I see today's date and
> the time of the files which were left over from that installation. I mark
> those files and move it into a temp0 directory.
> I reboot, if everything works correct, I know I can now delete those
> files. they are not being used from any
> other program. another 'clutter' gone.
> (I do search for other files with hat date and time with Superfind on
> drive C:\).
>
> CodeStuff Starter, one of the best programs to controll what is loaded on
> start up. (all windows ver).
>
> anyway, there will be most likely hell to pay for me from others here
> writing all this but maybe it helps some people.
>
> Vista overall: reliable, fast, lot's of things one can do with it, great
> forums. better then XP? for me, yes.
> then again, never had problems with XP either. it just came with the
> computer.
>
> good luck
>
>
>
>
>
>
> vista's upgrades: I have it set to alert me but not auto install. that
> way, I can see what the new upgrades are.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


 
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John Adams
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      09-23-2007
I should also say, I think that 99% of the problems people have with Vista
are related to one of these issues:

1.) OEM version misconfigured from the manufacturer
2.) Trying to use Vista on a system that is simply too old
3.) Trying to use Vista without Vista compatible devices.

For me: New Computer + Vista Certified Hardware and Drivers + Retail Vista
that I set up myself = Good Vista Experience


"daniel" <> wrote in message
news:WwzJi.8530$ ...
> it is just amazing reading all the complaints about vista. just, well
> sorry, laughable.
> I bought 3 laptops in january, all came with vista. I have never had ONE
> problem with either one.
>
> all those complaints!!!
> the defrag sucks ?
> Aero sucks ?
> Chkdsk don't work ?
> just upgraded the pc from xp to vista, now it's all garbage ? (bad choice
> if you're not computer savvy,
> your xp works just fine? then why fix something if it's not broken???).
> just downloaded a game, installed it and now, VISTA is slowing everything
> down ?
> where the heck is gpedit ?
> my office 2003 don't work with vista!
> why is there only one log-on picture ?
>
> tons and tons of it.
> well, there are also tons and tons of vista forums which give you the best
> advice, many tips and tricks.
> there are many new free programs on the net, programmed already for vista
> which can help you with so many things.
> defrag, you want to see a picture of the process? get SpeedItUp ver 4,
> you'll have your picture and more.
> don't like Aero, see How-to Geek, it's all about vista. Helpero Vista
> Support, Geeks to go Tech and then, of course, microsofts vista forums.
> tons of great advice from very knowledgable people who have no problems
> with vista.
> need drivers, how about Drivers.com and there are others where you can get
> free drivers.
>
> I agree, there are a few things to learn about vista. but they are
> interesting and not at all complicated.
> one has to take the time to learn a bit about it. that's what I did. now I
> know it.
>
> I like vista. I did change it to Classic View on the beginning to make it
> easier to find things but now, I am all vista.
> there are some free programs out there with tweaks to make it even faster.
> there are even programs which help you setup a wireless network with your
> other computers.
>
> I read, many have problems with backing up the original system. or backing
> up files and then they can get it 'back'. lot's of help with that on the
> forums from people who found the solution.
>
> like I said, you find everything on the forums.
>
> some advice:
> stay away from upgrading older computers to vista. if your xp or even win
> 2k works fine, leave it the way it is. if you really want vista, get a new
> computer with the vista OS.
>
> if you install a new program, do a clean install. how? you'll find that
> in many forums.
>
> if you install games from the net, watch it!!!
> many have ads and even spyware which work in the background and they will
> slow you down.
> so, it's not vista's fault, it's your own! if vista run fast on the
> beginning and now you installed/uninstalled 50 programs, it's not vista
> doing it. or xp or any others.
>
> need a good browser? try Avant. I use it since 4 years now. nothing
> compares to it. firefox, opera, nooo.
> example: I have 14websites open (on tabs). but not like IE. I can block
> out anything I don't want. (active x, scripts, java applets, and many
> more).
> just don't get the newest one. not vista compatible yet. get the older
> version: ver 11.0 build 8.
> then rename Avant.exe to iexplorer.exe. IE will still work, so will Avant
> as default.
>
> AVG is a good virus checker but Avast is better. checks and protects a lot
> more.
> (check virus program comparison. google)
>
> Firewalls: do a comparison, you'll find that BalckIce is the best. I use
> Sygate(number 2) 'cause it's free and
> does more then the free Zonealarm(number 3). (well, if they offer free
> ones, why not).
>
> if you install games from the net, check it with Ad-Aware. will avoid a
> lot of problems.
>
> I also use RegSeeker (vista) to clean the registry after uninstalling a
> program.
> (type in the name of the program, say: SuperFind(fantastic program, by the
> way), it will find that name in all the HKEY's, then Slect All, then
> Delete or Block Out, depending how confident you're. it will make a backup
> before deleting. then the registry is clean again and won't clatter up
> with the left-overs of uninstalled programs.
>
> when Uninstalling a program:
> most of the programs leave the dll's, ocx's and what have you, in the
> system32 folder. they can interfere with others
> what I do: before I install a new program, I check the time. say: 11:48
> am. if I don't like this program and I uninstall it again, then I open the
> explorer (or Free Commander, very good), open the system32 folder, sort
> the files to: Date Imported or Date Received. now I see today's date and
> the time of the files which were left over from that installation. I mark
> those files and move it into a temp0 directory.
> I reboot, if everything works correct, I know I can now delete those
> files. they are not being used from any
> other program. another 'clutter' gone.
> (I do search for other files with hat date and time with Superfind on
> drive C:\).
>
> CodeStuff Starter, one of the best programs to controll what is loaded on
> start up. (all windows ver).
>
> anyway, there will be most likely hell to pay for me from others here
> writing all this but maybe it helps some people.
>
> Vista overall: reliable, fast, lot's of things one can do with it, great
> forums. better then XP? for me, yes.
> then again, never had problems with XP either. it just came with the
> computer.
>
> good luck
>
>
>
>
>
>
> vista's upgrades: I have it set to alert me but not auto install. that
> way, I can see what the new upgrades are.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


 
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Slobber Mouth *Albright*
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      09-23-2007
daniel wrote:
> it is just amazing reading all the complaints about vista. just, well
> sorry, laughable.
> I bought 3 laptops in january, all came with vista. I have never had ONE
> problem with either one.
>


People post here to get help, and all they see are people with their
johnsons out slinging and squatting them in the NG. None of these so
called *worthless regulars* have any business even turning on a computer
-- no business whatsoever using a computer. They are worthless, starting
with the old dog and demented one John Albright.
 
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Adam Albright
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      09-23-2007
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 19:55:34 GMT, "daniel" <> wrote:

>it is just amazing reading all the complaints about vista. just, well sorry,
>laughable. I bought 3 laptops in january, all came with vista. I have never had ONE
>problem with either one.


I'm happy for you!

However, what's really laughable is people come into this group all
the time and extensively say the same thing you just said not
realizing the few Mickey Mouse things they may do with THEIR computers
pales compared to what others do.

Ergo, your experience with how Vista may fail... or not, is directly
proportional to HOW you use your computer, what software you have
installed as well as what hardware combinations you're using.

Don't think so? Then consider this. Many people consider bowling a
simple game and off the top of their heads think there at most could
be only a handful of possible pin combinations remaining after your
throw the ball. Well surprise, there are way more. I forget exactly, I
think it is 1012 or 1023 possible combinations. Anyway, check out
these two pages.

http://mathforum.org/dr.math/faq/faq.comb.perm.html

http://www.math3center.info/mathematical.html

Now that you had a peek into the world of mathematical combinations
and permutations consider the reality of Windows Vista. Unlike bowling
where there's only 10 pins in the mix, there are literally tens of
thousands of possible combinations of hardware alone, then throw in
all the possible mixtures of various hardware and software
combinations anyone may have on any particular system at any point in
time and you may begin to understand why I call the newsgroup troll
Frank a raving lunatic for him foolishly and constantly naming
everybody an idiot if they have trouble with Vista based on his
screwball premise he claims he didn't, therefore nobody else should
either. He foolishly thinks that if he don't see any particular
problem, then no such problem exists. Silly fool that Frankie is, he
actually IS that stupid.

Now don't you feel just a bit silly for implying there are no problems
with Vista? Consider yourself lucky you haven't run into any...yet.
Others simply haven't been a fortunate as you as Google is a grim
reminder of. I tend to feel sorry for people having problems. Others
here, who I call idiots and they are, have no compassion. Yet you can
bet anything if they did have problems they would be screaming the
loudest.

 
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Adam Albright
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      09-23-2007
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 16:29:30 -0400, Slobber Mouth *Albright*
<> wrote:

>daniel wrote:
>> it is just amazing reading all the complaints about vista. just, well
>> sorry, laughable.
>> I bought 3 laptops in january, all came with vista. I have never had ONE
>> problem with either one.
>>

>
>People post here to get help, and all they see are people with their
>johnsons out slinging and squatting them in the NG.


Typical newsgroup moron, can't even get a name right. What a idiot you
are!

 
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seven
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      09-23-2007
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 16:31:28 -0400, Adam Albright <> wrote:

> On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 19:55:34 GMT, "daniel" <> wrote:
>
>> it is just amazing reading all the complaints about vista. just, well
>> sorry,
>> laughable. I bought 3 laptops in january, all came with vista. I have
>> never had ONE
>> problem with either one.

>
> I'm happy for you!
>
> However, what's really laughable is people come into this group all
> the time and extensively say the same thing you just said not
> realizing the few Mickey Mouse things they may do with THEIR computers
> pales compared to what others do.
>
> Ergo, your experience with how Vista may fail... or not, is directly
> proportional to HOW you use your computer, what software you have
> installed as well as what hardware combinations you're using.
>
> Don't think so? Then consider this. Many people consider bowling a
> simple game and off the top of their heads think there at most could
> be only a handful of possible pin combinations remaining after your
> throw the ball. Well surprise, there are way more. I forget exactly, I
> think it is 1012 or 1023 possible combinations. Anyway, check out
> these two pages.
>
> http://mathforum.org/dr.math/faq/faq.comb.perm.html
>
> http://www.math3center.info/mathematical.html
>
> Now that you had a peek into the world of mathematical combinations
> and permutations consider the reality of Windows Vista. Unlike bowling
> where there's only 10 pins in the mix, there are literally tens of
> thousands of possible combinations of hardware alone, then throw in
> all the possible mixtures of various hardware and software
> combinations anyone may have on any particular system at any point in
> time and you may begin to understand why I call the newsgroup troll
> Frank a raving lunatic for him foolishly and constantly naming
> everybody an idiot if they have trouble with Vista based on his
> screwball premise he claims he didn't, therefore nobody else should
> either. He foolishly thinks that if he don't see any particular
> problem, then no such problem exists. Silly fool that Frankie is, he
> actually IS that stupid.
>
> Now don't you feel just a bit silly for implying there are no problems
> with Vista? Consider yourself lucky you haven't run into any...yet.
> Others simply haven't been a fortunate as you as Google is a grim
> reminder of. I tend to feel sorry for people having problems. Others
> here, who I call idiots and they are, have no compassion. Yet you can
> bet anything if they did have problems they would be screaming the
> loudest.
>


Ok, Poindexter.
So , in your theory...it would be possible after one roll of the bowling
bowl to knock down only the 5 pin?
 
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      09-23-2007
daniel wrote:
> it is just amazing reading all the complaints about vista. just, well
> sorry, laughable.
> I bought 3 laptops in january, all came with vista. I have never had ONE
> problem with either one.
>
> all those complaints!!!
> the defrag sucks ?
> Aero sucks ?
> Chkdsk don't work ?
> just upgraded the pc from xp to vista, now it's all garbage ? (bad
> choice if you're not computer savvy,
> your xp works just fine? then why fix something if it's not broken???).
> just downloaded a game, installed it and now, VISTA is slowing
> everything down ?
> where the heck is gpedit ?
> my office 2003 don't work with vista!
> why is there only one log-on picture ?
>
> tons and tons of it.
> well, there are also tons and tons of vista forums which give you the
> best advice, many tips and tricks.
> there are many new free programs on the net, programmed already for
> vista which can help you with so many things.
> defrag, you want to see a picture of the process? get SpeedItUp ver 4,
> you'll have your picture and more.
> don't like Aero, see How-to Geek, it's all about vista. Helpero Vista
> Support, Geeks to go Tech and then, of course, microsofts vista forums.
> tons of great advice from very knowledgable people who have no problems
> with vista.
> need drivers, how about Drivers.com and there are others where you can
> get free drivers.
>
> I agree, there are a few things to learn about vista. but they are
> interesting and not at all complicated.
> one has to take the time to learn a bit about it. that's what I did. now
> I know it.
>
> I like vista. I did change it to Classic View on the beginning to make
> it easier to find things but now, I am all vista.
> there are some free programs out there with tweaks to make it even faster.
> there are even programs which help you setup a wireless network with
> your other computers.
>
> I read, many have problems with backing up the original system. or
> backing up files and then they can get it 'back'. lot's of help with
> that on the forums from people who found the solution.
>
> like I said, you find everything on the forums.
>
> some advice:
> stay away from upgrading older computers to vista. if your xp or even
> win 2k works fine, leave it the way it is. if you really want vista, get
> a new computer with the vista OS.
>
> if you install a new program, do a clean install. how? you'll find that
> in many forums.
>
> if you install games from the net, watch it!!!
> many have ads and even spyware which work in the background and they
> will slow you down.
> so, it's not vista's fault, it's your own! if vista run fast on the
> beginning and now you installed/uninstalled 50 programs, it's not vista
> doing it. or xp or any others.
>
> need a good browser? try Avant. I use it since 4 years now. nothing
> compares to it. firefox, opera, nooo.
> example: I have 14websites open (on tabs). but not like IE. I can block
> out anything I don't want. (active x, scripts, java applets, and many
> more).
> just don't get the newest one. not vista compatible yet. get the older
> version: ver 11.0 build 8.
> then rename Avant.exe to iexplorer.exe. IE will still work, so will
> Avant as default.
>
> AVG is a good virus checker but Avast is better. checks and protects a
> lot more.
> (check virus program comparison. google)
>
> Firewalls: do a comparison, you'll find that BalckIce is the best. I
> use Sygate(number 2) 'cause it's free and
> does more then the free Zonealarm(number 3). (well, if they offer free
> ones, why not).
>
> if you install games from the net, check it with Ad-Aware. will avoid a
> lot of problems.
>
> I also use RegSeeker (vista) to clean the registry after uninstalling a
> program.
> (type in the name of the program, say: SuperFind(fantastic program, by
> the way), it will find that name in all the HKEY's, then Slect All, then
> Delete or Block Out, depending how confident you're. it will make a
> backup before deleting. then the registry is clean again and won't
> clatter up with the left-overs of uninstalled programs.
>
> when Uninstalling a program:
> most of the programs leave the dll's, ocx's and what have you, in the
> system32 folder. they can interfere with others
> what I do: before I install a new program, I check the time. say:
> 11:48 am. if I don't like this program and I uninstall it again, then I
> open the explorer (or Free Commander, very good), open the system32
> folder, sort the files to: Date Imported or Date Received. now I see
> today's date and the time of the files which were left over from that
> installation. I mark those files and move it into a temp0 directory.
> I reboot, if everything works correct, I know I can now delete those
> files. they are not being used from any
> other program. another 'clutter' gone.
> (I do search for other files with hat date and time with Superfind on
> drive C:\).
>
> CodeStuff Starter, one of the best programs to controll what is loaded
> on start up. (all windows ver).
>
> anyway, there will be most likely hell to pay for me from others here
> writing all this but maybe it helps some people.
>
> Vista overall: reliable, fast, lot's of things one can do with it, great
> forums. better then XP? for me, yes.
> then again, never had problems with XP either. it just came with the
> computer.



Some good advice, but you still fall into the category of "Shill"
because like others here you simply refuse to acknowledge that not
everything is the users fault, actually you deliberately IMPLY that
everything is the users fault.

You said

> one has to take the time to learn a bit about it. that's what I did. now
> I know it.



We are pleased you now know it all, however given that statement when
you add the words

>
> good luck
>


one is obliged to ask why, with everything so perfect and with infinite
knowledge one should need "Luck".

> vista's upgrades: I have it set to alert me but not auto install. that
> way, I can see what the new upgrades are.



Incorrect, you can see what MS let you see and you can see what they
tell you the upgrades (Updates) are. As we have recently learned you
only "Think" you have control, as did we all, but really you don't.
 
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      09-23-2007
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 17:00:42 -0400, seven <> wrote:

>On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 16:31:28 -0400, Adam Albright <> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 19:55:34 GMT, "daniel" <> wrote:
>>
>>> it is just amazing reading all the complaints about vista. just, well
>>> sorry,
>>> laughable. I bought 3 laptops in january, all came with vista. I have
>>> never had ONE
>>> problem with either one.

>>
>> I'm happy for you!
>>
>> However, what's really laughable is people come into this group all
>> the time and extensively say the same thing you just said not
>> realizing the few Mickey Mouse things they may do with THEIR computers
>> pales compared to what others do.
>>
>> Ergo, your experience with how Vista may fail... or not, is directly
>> proportional to HOW you use your computer, what software you have
>> installed as well as what hardware combinations you're using.
>>
>> Don't think so? Then consider this. Many people consider bowling a
>> simple game and off the top of their heads think there at most could
>> be only a handful of possible pin combinations remaining after your
>> throw the ball. Well surprise, there are way more. I forget exactly, I
>> think it is 1012 or 1023 possible combinations. Anyway, check out
>> these two pages.
>>
>> http://mathforum.org/dr.math/faq/faq.comb.perm.html
>>
>> http://www.math3center.info/mathematical.html
>>
>> Now that you had a peek into the world of mathematical combinations
>> and permutations consider the reality of Windows Vista. Unlike bowling
>> where there's only 10 pins in the mix, there are literally tens of
>> thousands of possible combinations of hardware alone, then throw in
>> all the possible mixtures of various hardware and software
>> combinations anyone may have on any particular system at any point in
>> time and you may begin to understand why I call the newsgroup troll
>> Frank a raving lunatic for him foolishly and constantly naming
>> everybody an idiot if they have trouble with Vista based on his
>> screwball premise he claims he didn't, therefore nobody else should
>> either. He foolishly thinks that if he don't see any particular
>> problem, then no such problem exists. Silly fool that Frankie is, he
>> actually IS that stupid.
>>
>> Now don't you feel just a bit silly for implying there are no problems
>> with Vista? Consider yourself lucky you haven't run into any...yet.
>> Others simply haven't been a fortunate as you as Google is a grim
>> reminder of. I tend to feel sorry for people having problems. Others
>> here, who I call idiots and they are, have no compassion. Yet you can
>> bet anything if they did have problems they would be screaming the
>> loudest.
>>

>
>Ok, Poindexter.
>So , in your theory...it would be possible after one roll of the bowling
>bowl to knock down only the 5 pin?


Obviously you missed the whole point which was about possible
combinations and permutations, not bowling. No wonder you're a
****wit.

 
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