Allowing a non-admin user run a program

I've successfully installed a typing tutor program on my Dell Inspiron 1720
running Vista Home Premium. I have no problem using it, but I really
installed it for my mother-in-law to use. She does NOT have an admin
account. If she tries to run it, it asks her for the admin password. I
don't want her to have the admin password, BUT I DO want her to be able to
use this program.

Surely, it is possible to do this with Vista's <Oh so wonderfully new and
enhanced> security. I haven't figured it out yet. Can someone tell me how
to do this.

Thanks1

If this is the same program I installed recently (Typing Instructor for Kids)
then I would first note that this issue is due to the fact that the program
in question is not Vista-comaptible. In fact, it is not compatible with any
version of Windows that came after Windows ME. The issue is that the program
requires modify access to its installation folders in C:\Program Files, which
is unacceptable, of course.

On the other hand, the issue is easy to fix: Simply give your mother-in-law
access to that folder. Right-click on the folder that the program is
installed in, click on the Security tab, the click on the "Edit" button
(administrator access required at this point), click on Users, and put a
check mark in the Modify field. That should do it.

"Billiken66" wrote:

> I've successfully installed a typing tutor program on my Dell Inspiron 1720
> running Vista Home Premium. I have no problem using it, but I really
> installed it for my mother-in-law to use. She does NOT have an admin
> account. If she tries to run it, it asks her for the admin password. I
> don't want her to have the admin password, BUT I DO want her to be able to
> use this program.
>
> Surely, it is possible to do this with Vista's <Oh so wonderfully new and
> enhanced> security. I haven't figured it out yet. Can someone tell me how
> to do this.
>
> Thanks1

John,
Nope, the program is Typing Quick and Easy v17.0, and in the system
requirements section on the box, Windows Vista is listed first (then XP and
2000). I would have assumed this meant the thing was Vista compatible.

I'll give what you suggested a try, however.

Thanks for the input.

"John Myers" wrote:

> If this is the same program I installed recently (Typing Instructor for Kids)
> then I would first note that this issue is due to the fact that the program
> in question is not Vista-comaptible. In fact, it is not compatible with any
> version of Windows that came after Windows ME. The issue is that the program
> requires modify access to its installation folders in C:\Program Files, which
> is unacceptable, of course.
>
> On the other hand, the issue is easy to fix: Simply give your mother-in-law
> access to that folder. Right-click on the folder that the program is
> installed in, click on the Security tab, the click on the "Edit" button
> (administrator access required at this point), click on Users, and put a
> check mark in the Modify field. That should do it.
>
> "Billiken66" wrote:
>
> > I've successfully installed a typing tutor program on my Dell Inspiron 1720
> > running Vista Home Premium. I have no problem using it, but I really
> > installed it for my mother-in-law to use. She does NOT have an admin
> > account. If she tries to run it, it asks her for the admin password. I
> > don't want her to have the admin password, BUT I DO want her to be able to
> > use this program.
> >
> > Surely, it is possible to do this with Vista's <Oh so wonderfully new and
> > enhanced> security. I haven't figured it out yet. Can someone tell me how
> > to do this.
> >
> > Thanks1

Well, that's not doing it! It certainly enabled me to change the security
properties of the folder where the program resides, it still won't run
without an admin password.

I get a window, coming from User Access Control that says:

"An unidentified program wants access to your computer" with a warning
about running unidentified programs. If you want to continue you have to
enter the password for MY account, which is the only user account to have
admin rights.

Anybody got any other suggestions.

"John Myers" wrote:

> If this is the same program I installed recently (Typing Instructor for Kids)
> then I would first note that this issue is due to the fact that the program
> in question is not Vista-comaptible. In fact, it is not compatible with any
> version of Windows that came after Windows ME. The issue is that the program
> requires modify access to its installation folders in C:\Program Files, which
> is unacceptable, of course.
>
> On the other hand, the issue is easy to fix: Simply give your mother-in-law
> access to that folder. Right-click on the folder that the program is
> installed in, click on the Security tab, the click on the "Edit" button
> (administrator access required at this point), click on Users, and put a
> check mark in the Modify field. That should do it.
>
> "Billiken66" wrote:
>
> > I've successfully installed a typing tutor program on my Dell Inspiron 1720
> > running Vista Home Premium. I have no problem using it, but I really
> > installed it for my mother-in-law to use. She does NOT have an admin
> > account. If she tries to run it, it asks her for the admin password. I
> > don't want her to have the admin password, BUT I DO want her to be able to
> > use this program.
> >
> > Surely, it is possible to do this with Vista's <Oh so wonderfully new and
> > enhanced> security. I haven't figured it out yet. Can someone tell me how
> > to do this.
> >
> > Thanks1

Ahh, that's too bad... So, the program wants access to some other system
areas. There's lots of possibilities there, none of which are very easy to
explain. Have you tried contacting their support? Walking you through the
steps to get this program to comply via this forum is going to be hard
otherwise.

In all seriousness, though, if their tech support can't help you, I would
recommend you return the software and get some that works with Vista. The
behavior you describe, althogh sadly not at all uncommon, clearly means that
the software is NOT compatible with Vista, or any other modern operating
system that has come out in this century. Thus, the merchandise does not
perform as advertised, and you can return it for a full refund. That is what
I would do. I am frankly getting sick and tired of incompetent and/or lazy
software developers that try to foist software on consumers that ignores
guidelines that Microsoft has advertised for more than a decade now. Off the
soapbox...

"Billiken66" wrote:

> Well, that's not doing it! It certainly enabled me to change the security
> properties of the folder where the program resides, it still won't run
> without an admin password.
>
> I get a window, coming from User Access Control that says:
>
> "An unidentified program wants access to your computer" with a warning
> about running unidentified programs. If you want to continue you have to
> enter the password for MY account, which is the only user account to have
> admin rights.
>
> Anybody got any other suggestions.
>
> "John Myers" wrote:
>
> > If this is the same program I installed recently (Typing Instructor for Kids)
> > then I would first note that this issue is due to the fact that the program
> > in question is not Vista-comaptible. In fact, it is not compatible with any
> > version of Windows that came after Windows ME. The issue is that the program
> > requires modify access to its installation folders in C:\Program Files, which
> > is unacceptable, of course.
> >
> > On the other hand, the issue is easy to fix: Simply give your mother-in-law
> > access to that folder. Right-click on the folder that the program is
> > installed in, click on the Security tab, the click on the "Edit" button
> > (administrator access required at this point), click on Users, and put a
> > check mark in the Modify field. That should do it.
> >
> > "Billiken66" wrote:
> >
> > > I've successfully installed a typing tutor program on my Dell Inspiron 1720
> > > running Vista Home Premium. I have no problem using it, but I really
> > > installed it for my mother-in-law to use. She does NOT have an admin
> > > account. If she tries to run it, it asks her for the admin password. I
> > > don't want her to have the admin password, BUT I DO want her to be able to
> > > use this program.
> > >
> > > Surely, it is possible to do this with Vista's <Oh so wonderfully new and
> > > enhanced> security. I haven't figured it out yet. Can someone tell me how
> > > to do this.
> > >
> > > Thanks1

I agree with John, this doesn't sound like a problem with Windows, it sounds
like the program itself.

Kurt Dillard

"John Myers" <> wrote in message
news:0F54F221-C7A3-4C02-B361-...
> Ahh, that's too bad... So, the program wants access to some other system
> areas. There's lots of possibilities there, none of which are very easy to
> explain. Have you tried contacting their support? Walking you through the
> steps to get this program to comply via this forum is going to be hard
> otherwise.
>
> In all seriousness, though, if their tech support can't help you, I would
> recommend you return the software and get some that works with Vista. The
> behavior you describe, althogh sadly not at all uncommon, clearly means
> that
> the software is NOT compatible with Vista, or any other modern operating
> system that has come out in this century. Thus, the merchandise does not
> perform as advertised, and you can return it for a full refund. That is
> what
> I would do. I am frankly getting sick and tired of incompetent and/or lazy
> software developers that try to foist software on consumers that ignores
> guidelines that Microsoft has advertised for more than a decade now. Off
> the
> soapbox...
>
> "Billiken66" wrote:
>
>> Well, that's not doing it! It certainly enabled me to change the
>> security
>> properties of the folder where the program resides, it still won't run
>> without an admin password.
>>
>> I get a window, coming from User Access Control that says:
>>
>> "An unidentified program wants access to your computer" with a warning
>> about running unidentified programs. If you want to continue you have to
>> enter the password for MY account, which is the only user account to have
>> admin rights.
>>
>> Anybody got any other suggestions.
>>
>> "John Myers" wrote:
>>
>> > If this is the same program I installed recently (Typing Instructor for
>> > Kids)
>> > then I would first note that this issue is due to the fact that the
>> > program
>> > in question is not Vista-comaptible. In fact, it is not compatible with
>> > any
>> > version of Windows that came after Windows ME. The issue is that the
>> > program
>> > requires modify access to its installation folders in C:\Program Files,
>> > which
>> > is unacceptable, of course.
>> >
>> > On the other hand, the issue is easy to fix: Simply give your
>> > mother-in-law
>> > access to that folder. Right-click on the folder that the program is
>> > installed in, click on the Security tab, the click on the "Edit" button
>> > (administrator access required at this point), click on Users, and put
>> > a
>> > check mark in the Modify field. That should do it.
>> >
>> > "Billiken66" wrote:
>> >
>> > > I've successfully installed a typing tutor program on my Dell
>> > > Inspiron 1720
>> > > running Vista Home Premium. I have no problem using it, but I really
>> > > installed it for my mother-in-law to use. She does NOT have an admin
>> > > account. If she tries to run it, it asks her for the admin password.
>> > > I
>> > > don't want her to have the admin password, BUT I DO want her to be
>> > > able to
>> > > use this program.
>> > >
>> > > Surely, it is possible to do this with Vista's <Oh so wonderfully new
>> > > and
>> > > enhanced> security. I haven't figured it out yet. Can someone tell
>> > > me how
>> > > to do this.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks1

First of all I want to thank both of you for trying to assist me. I did send
an e-mail to the vendor on Sunday and have not received a response yet. I'm
not holding my breath, either.

I also agree with you both that this doesn't sound like a problem with
Vista. Plenty of programs, when written to the correct standards, can be
installed and run by a standard user. I think they may need to be installed
by a admin user, but they don't have the issue with requiring and admin user
password.

After some more research, it became pretty clear. The message says:
"An unidentified program wants access to your computer".
I didn't have to look too far in the Vista help for this explanation:
"An unidentified program is one that doesn't have a valid digital signature
from its publisher to ensure that the program is what it claims to be. This
doesn't necessarily indicate danger, as many older, legitimate programs lack
signatures. However, you should use extra caution and only allow this program
to run if you obtained it from a trusted source, such as the original CD or a
publisher's website."

I thank you gentlemen for your time. Looks like I'll be visiting
MicroCenter this weekend!

"Kurt" wrote:

> I agree with John, this doesn't sound like a problem with Windows, it sounds
> like the program itself.
>
> Kurt Dillard
>
> "John Myers" <> wrote in message
> news:0F54F221-C7A3-4C02-B361-...
> > Ahh, that's too bad... So, the program wants access to some other system
> > areas. There's lots of possibilities there, none of which are very easy to
> > explain. Have you tried contacting their support? Walking you through the
> > steps to get this program to comply via this forum is going to be hard
> > otherwise.
> >
> > In all seriousness, though, if their tech support can't help you, I would
> > recommend you return the software and get some that works with Vista. The
> > behavior you describe, althogh sadly not at all uncommon, clearly means
> > that
> > the software is NOT compatible with Vista, or any other modern operating
> > system that has come out in this century. Thus, the merchandise does not
> > perform as advertised, and you can return it for a full refund. That is
> > what
> > I would do. I am frankly getting sick and tired of incompetent and/or lazy
> > software developers that try to foist software on consumers that ignores
> > guidelines that Microsoft has advertised for more than a decade now. Off
> > the
> > soapbox...
> >
> > "Billiken66" wrote:
> >
> >> Well, that's not doing it! It certainly enabled me to change the
> >> security
> >> properties of the folder where the program resides, it still won't run
> >> without an admin password.
> >>
> >> I get a window, coming from User Access Control that says:
> >>
> >> "An unidentified program wants access to your computer" with a warning
> >> about running unidentified programs. If you want to continue you have to
> >> enter the password for MY account, which is the only user account to have
> >> admin rights.
> >>
> >> Anybody got any other suggestions.
> >>
> >> "John Myers" wrote:
> >>
> >> > If this is the same program I installed recently (Typing Instructor for
> >> > Kids)
> >> > then I would first note that this issue is due to the fact that the
> >> > program
> >> > in question is not Vista-comaptible. In fact, it is not compatible with
> >> > any
> >> > version of Windows that came after Windows ME. The issue is that the
> >> > program
> >> > requires modify access to its installation folders in C:\Program Files,
> >> > which
> >> > is unacceptable, of course.
> >> >
> >> > On the other hand, the issue is easy to fix: Simply give your
> >> > mother-in-law
> >> > access to that folder. Right-click on the folder that the program is
> >> > installed in, click on the Security tab, the click on the "Edit" button
> >> > (administrator access required at this point), click on Users, and put
> >> > a
> >> > check mark in the Modify field. That should do it.
> >> >
> >> > "Billiken66" wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > I've successfully installed a typing tutor program on my Dell
> >> > > Inspiron 1720
> >> > > running Vista Home Premium. I have no problem using it, but I really
> >> > > installed it for my mother-in-law to use. She does NOT have an admin
> >> > > account. If she tries to run it, it asks her for the admin password.
> >> > > I
> >> > > don't want her to have the admin password, BUT I DO want her to be
> >> > > able to
> >> > > use this program.
> >> > >
> >> > > Surely, it is possible to do this with Vista's <Oh so wonderfully new
> >> > > and
> >> > > enhanced> security. I haven't figured it out yet. Can someone tell
> >> > > me how
> >> > > to do this.
> >> > >
> >> > > Thanks1
>

Billiken66;641005 Wrote:
> Well, that's not doing it! It certainly enabled me to change th
> securit
> properties of the folder where the program resides, it still won't ru
> without an admin password
>
> I get a window, coming from User Access Control that says
>
> "An unidentified program wants access to your computer" with
> warnin
> about running unidentified programs. If you want to continue you hav
> t
> enter the password for MY account, which is the only user account t
> hav
> admin rights
>
> Anybody got any other suggestions
>
> "John Myers" wrote
> > > >
> > > If this is the same program I installed recently (Typing Instructo
> > for Kids
> > > then I would first note that this issue is due to the fact that th
> > progra
> > > in question is not Vista-comaptible. In fact, it is not compatibl
> > with an
> > > version of Windows that came after Windows ME. The issue is that th
> > progra
> > > requires modify access to its installation folders in C:\Progra
> > Files, whic
> > > is unacceptable, of course
> >
> > > On the other hand, the issue is easy to fix: Simply give you
> > mother-in-la
> > > access to that folder. Right-click on the folder that the program i
> > > installed in, click on the Security tab, the click on the "Edit
> > butto
> > > (administrator access required at this point), click on Users, an
> > put
> > > check mark in the Modify field. That should do it
> >
> > > "Billiken66" wrote
> > >> > > > >
> > > > > I've successfully installed a typing tutor program on my Del
> > > Inspiron 172
> > > > > running Vista Home Premium. I have no problem using it, but
> > > reall
> > > > > installed it for my mother-in-law to use. She does NOT have a
> > > admi
> > > > > account. If she tries to run it, it asks her for the admi
> > > password.
> > > > > don't want her to have the admin password, BUT I DO want her to b
> > > able t
> > > > > use this program
> > > >
> > > > > Surely, it is possible to do this with Vista's <Oh so wonderfull
> > > new an
> > > > > enhanced> security. I haven't figured it out yet. Can someon
> > > tell me ho
> > > > > to do this
> > > >
> > > > > Thanks1 > > > > > >

I realize this thread is old, but I recently installed the same progra
(Typing Quick & Easy) and had the same problem, this time in a schoo
setting (need to let the students access the program on their ow
non-admin accounts), and I thought my workaround the UAC (it's progra
specific) is a little easier on the non-techie than doing stuff lik
running the program as a scheduled task

The User Access Control warning here is actually a result not of th
typing program itself, but of the file "ISI Updater.exe". If you jus
want to run the program and not worry about running an updater ever
time, you can just run the file "TypingInstructor.exe" instead, and i
should start up the typing program with no UAC problems

To do this, just find the file in Program Files>Typing Quick & Easy an
either run it from there or make a shortcut to it and put it whereve
you want

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