Always Showing I have to Update Again

Hello everyone and thank you for taking your time to try to help me. For some
strange reason, my windows updates shows an icon in the system tray saying
that I need to update. If I do the update, then about 2-3 minutes later the
icon reappears and shows the same update again to install. I've tried to
search, but I can't find anything.

I am running Windows 2000 and I tried to find the update in my Add/Remove
programs to get rid of it, but it wasn't even there. For some reason it
doesn't even install it!

This is the update that is always reappearing and won't let me install:

Security Update For Microsoft Data Access Components (KB832483)

It's very weird and I hope I can solve it. Thank you.

sabster,

According to:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sec.../MS04-003.mspx

> The same update applies to all these versions of MDAC

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en

> • Microsoft Data Access Components 2.5 (included with Microsoft Windows 2000)
> • Microsoft Data Access Components 2.6 (included with Microsoft SQL Server 2000)
> • Microsoft Data Access Components 2.7 (included with Microsoft Windows XP)
> • Microsoft Data Access Components 2.8 (included with Microsoft Windows Server 2003)

Download the update from the above link. Close Internet Explorer (or
whichever browser you use), then install the update.

From : http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sec.../MS04-003.mspx
Under the General Information heading, click the plus sign next to
Security Update Information
Ditto for Microsoft Data Access Components (all versions).

> Restart Requirement
>
> You must restart your computer after you apply this security update.


MowGreen [MVP 2003-2006]
===============
*-343-* FDNY
Never Forgotten
===============


sabster wrote:

> Hello everyone and thank you for taking your time to try to help me. For some
> strange reason, my windows updates shows an icon in the system tray saying
> that I need to update. If I do the update, then about 2-3 minutes later the
> icon reappears and shows the same update again to install. I've tried to
> search, but I can't find anything.
>
> I am running Windows 2000 and I tried to find the update in my Add/Remove
> programs to get rid of it, but it wasn't even there. For some reason it
> doesn't even install it!
>
> This is the update that is always reappearing and won't let me install:
>
> Security Update For Microsoft Data Access Components (KB832483)
>
> It's very weird and I hope I can solve it. Thank you.

Iam having the same problem with update #817787. I have done this update 35+
times successfully but after a few minutes it says I need to do it again.
Does anyone know what the proplem is? Thank you

"sabster" wrote:

> Hello everyone and thank you for taking your time to try to help me. For some
> strange reason, my windows updates shows an icon in the system tray saying
> that I need to update. If I do the update, then about 2-3 minutes later the
> icon reappears and shows the same update again to install. I've tried to
> search, but I can't find anything.
>
> I am running Windows 2000 and I tried to find the update in my Add/Remove
> programs to get rid of it, but it wasn't even there. For some reason it
> doesn't even install it!
>
> This is the update that is always reappearing and won't let me install:
>
> Security Update For Microsoft Data Access Components (KB832483)
>
> It's very weird and I hope I can solve it. Thank you.

KB817787 is included in Service Pack 2. It would behoove you to get SP2
installed since support for SP1 ends this October :
From : http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/sp2/default.mspx

> After October 10, 2006, Windows XP Service Pack 1 will transition to a
> non-supported status

Suggest you either order the CD (Free with a small postage charge) :
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/d...s/default.mspx
or download the full SP2 package :
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en

Get Your PC Ready for SP2
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/s...hattoknow.mspx

Service Pack Installation Checklist
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/spackins.htm


MowGreen [MVP 2003-2006]
===============
*-343-* FDNY
Never Forgotten
===============


ju3 wrote:
> Iam having the same problem with update #817787. I have done this update 35+
> times successfully but after a few minutes it says I need to do it again.
> Does anyone know what the proplem is? Thank you
>
> "sabster" wrote:
>
>
>>Hello everyone and thank you for taking your time to try to help me. For some
>>strange reason, my windows updates shows an icon in the system tray saying
>>that I need to update. If I do the update, then about 2-3 minutes later the
>>icon reappears and shows the same update again to install. I've tried to
>>search, but I can't find anything.
>>
>>I am running Windows 2000 and I tried to find the update in my Add/Remove
>>programs to get rid of it, but it wasn't even there. For some reason it
>>doesn't even install it!
>>
>>This is the update that is always reappearing and won't let me install:
>>
>>Security Update For Microsoft Data Access Components (KB832483)
>>
>>It's very weird and I hope I can solve it. Thank you.

Thank you for taking time to try to answer my question, but your solution
didn't work. I downloaded the update and closed everything. I even restarted
the computer to try the file again.

This is the error I get:
"Target file is already at higher version. For Details see DaHotgix.log."

Then after I hit ok, I get this error:
"An error occured during setup.
For more information you can look at the log file: C:/WINNT/dahotfix.log.
You may need to contact your proudct support representative."

After I hit OK, it closes.

Definetly strange, huh?

"MowGreen [MVP]" wrote:

> sabster,
>
> According to:
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sec.../MS04-003.mspx
>
> > The same update applies to all these versions of MDAC
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en
>
> > • Microsoft Data Access Components 2.5 (included with Microsoft Windows 2000)
> > • Microsoft Data Access Components 2.6 (included with Microsoft SQL Server 2000)
> > • Microsoft Data Access Components 2.7 (included with Microsoft Windows XP)
> > • Microsoft Data Access Components 2.8 (included with Microsoft Windows Server 2003)
>
> Download the update from the above link. Close Internet Explorer (or
> whichever browser you use), then install the update.
>
> From : http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sec.../MS04-003.mspx
> Under the General Information heading, click the plus sign next to
> Security Update Information
> Ditto for Microsoft Data Access Components (all versions).
>
> > Restart Requirement
> >
> > You must restart your computer after you apply this security update.
>
>
> MowGreen [MVP 2003-2006]
> ===============
> *-343-* FDNY
> Never Forgotten
> ===============
>
>
> sabster wrote:
>
> > Hello everyone and thank you for taking your time to try to help me. For some
> > strange reason, my windows updates shows an icon in the system tray saying
> > that I need to update. If I do the update, then about 2-3 minutes later the
> > icon reappears and shows the same update again to install. I've tried to
> > search, but I can't find anything.
> >
> > I am running Windows 2000 and I tried to find the update in my Add/Remove
> > programs to get rid of it, but it wasn't even there. For some reason it
> > doesn't even install it!
> >
> > This is the update that is always reappearing and won't let me install:
> >
> > Security Update For Microsoft Data Access Components (KB832483)
> >
> > It's very weird and I hope I can solve it. Thank you.
>

I appear to be having a similar, if not the same, problem. Here is the
snippet from my dahotfix.log:

================================================== =
[15:43:33]: Target file is already at higher version.[15:43:33]:
================================================== =
Target file : C:\WINNT\system32\odbc32.dll version:[3.520.6306.0]
Source file version:[3.520.6301.0]
[15:43:33]: The action (NULL!AllOrNoneFileByFileVersionCheck) returned FALSE.
Either all of the PreInstallActions for this package returned FALSE, or
there was a fatal error while executing an action.
The package will not be installed. This error will not halt the setup
process.
[15:43:33]: Executing PreInstallActions for package.
[15:43:33]: Loading function (CheckMDACVersionExact) from internal function
list.
[15:43:33]: 2.62,false[15:43:33]: Checking version of Microsoft Data Access
Components that is currently installed on the machine.
[15:43:33]: An error occurred while setup was trying to verify the version
of Microsoft Data Access Components current installed on the machine.
Either the version currently installed does not match the version of this
hotfix package, or setup was unable to determine the version currently
installed.
[15:43:33]: The action (NULL!CheckMDACVersionExact) returned FALSE.
Either all of the PreInstallActions for this package returned FALSE, or
there was a fatal error while executing an action.
The package will not be installed. This error will not halt the setup
process.
[15:43:33]: Executing PreInstallActions for package.
[15:43:33]: Loading function (CheckMDACVersionExact) from internal function
list.
[15:43:33]: 2.62,false[15:43:33]: Checking version of Microsoft Data Access
Components that is currently installed on the machine.
[15:43:33]: An error occurred while setup was trying to verify the version
of Microsoft Data Access Components current installed on the machine.
Either the version currently installed does not match the version of this
hotfix package, or setup was unable to determine the version currently
installed.
[15:43:33]: The action (NULL!CheckMDACVersionExact) returned FALSE.
Either all of the PreInstallActions for this package returned FALSE, or
there was a fatal error while executing an action.
The package will not be installed. This error will not halt the setup
process.
[15:43:33]: Executing PreInstallActions for package.
[15:43:33]: Loading function (CheckMDACVersionExact) from internal function
list.
[15:43:33]: 2.70,false[15:43:33]: Checking version of Microsoft Data Access
Components that is currently installed on the machine.
[15:43:33]: An error occurred while setup was trying to verify the version
of Microsoft Data Access Components current installed on the machine.
Either the version currently installed does not match the version of this
hotfix package, or setup was unable to determine the version currently
installed.
[15:43:33]: The action (NULL!CheckMDACVersionExact) returned FALSE.
Either all of the PreInstallActions for this package returned FALSE, or
there was a fatal error while executing an action.
The package will not be installed. This error will not halt the setup
process.
[15:43:33]: Executing PreInstallActions for package.
[15:43:33]: Loading function (CheckMDACVersionExact) from internal function
list.
[15:43:33]: 2.70,false[15:43:33]: Checking version of Microsoft Data Access
Components that is currently installed on the machine.
[15:43:33]: An error occurred while setup was trying to verify the version
of Microsoft Data Access Components current installed on the machine.
Either the version currently installed does not match the version of this
hotfix package, or setup was unable to determine the version currently
installed.
[15:43:33]: The action (NULL!CheckMDACVersionExact) returned FALSE.
Either all of the PreInstallActions for this package returned FALSE, or
there was a fatal error while executing an action.
The package will not be installed. This error will not halt the setup
process.
[15:43:33]: Executing PreInstallActions for package.
[15:43:33]: Loading function (CheckMDACVersionExact) from internal function
list.
[15:43:33]: 2.71,false[15:43:33]: Checking version of Microsoft Data Access
Components that is currently installed on the machine.
[15:43:33]: An error occurred while setup was trying to verify the version
of Microsoft Data Access Components current installed on the machine.
Either the version currently installed does not match the version of this
hotfix package, or setup was unable to determine the version currently
installed.
[15:43:33]: The action (NULL!CheckMDACVersionExact) returned FALSE.
Either all of the PreInstallActions for this package returned FALSE, or
there was a fatal error while executing an action.
The package will not be installed. This error will not halt the setup
process.
[15:43:33]: Executing PreInstallActions for package.
[15:43:33]: Loading function (CheckMDACVersionExact) from internal function
list.
[15:43:33]: 2.71,false[15:43:33]: Checking version of Microsoft Data Access
Components that is currently installed on the machine.
[15:43:33]: An error occurred while setup was trying to verify the version
of Microsoft Data Access Components current installed on the machine.
Either the version currently installed does not match the version of this
hotfix package, or setup was unable to determine the version currently
installed.
[15:43:33]: The action (NULL!CheckMDACVersionExact) returned FALSE.
Either all of the PreInstallActions for this package returned FALSE, or
there was a fatal error while executing an action.
The package will not be installed. This error will not halt the setup
process.
[15:43:33]: Executing PreInstallActions for package.
[15:43:33]: Loading function (CheckMDACVersionExact) from internal function
list.
[15:43:33]: 2.80,false[15:43:33]: Checking version of Microsoft Data Access
Components that is currently installed on the machine.
[15:43:33]: An error occurred while setup was trying to verify the version
of Microsoft Data Access Components current installed on the machine.
Either the version currently installed does not match the version of this
hotfix package, or setup was unable to determine the version currently
installed.
[15:43:33]: The action (NULL!CheckMDACVersionExact) returned FALSE.
Either all of the PreInstallActions for this package returned FALSE, or
there was a fatal error while executing an action.
The package will not be installed. This error will not halt the setup
process.
[15:43:33]: Destroying Job Queues.
[15:43:33]: Checking state of setup at end of installation.
Setup was NOT successful.
[15:43:33]: Shutting down Hotfix Installer.

Any help on this would be greatly appreciated. If you need to see other log
files, please let me know so that I can post those, too.

Thanks in advance,

Wil

"sabster" wrote:

> Thank you for taking time to try to answer my question, but your solution
> didn't work. I downloaded the update and closed everything. I even restarted
> the computer to try the file again.
>
> This is the error I get:
> "Target file is already at higher version. For Details see DaHotgix.log."
>
> Then after I hit ok, I get this error:
> "An error occured during setup.
> For more information you can look at the log file: C:/WINNT/dahotfix.log.
> You may need to contact your proudct support representative."
>
> After I hit OK, it closes.
>
> Definetly strange, huh?
>
> "MowGreen [MVP]" wrote:
>
> > sabster,
> >
> > According to:
> > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sec.../MS04-003.mspx
> >
> > > The same update applies to all these versions of MDAC
> >
> > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en
> >
> > > • Microsoft Data Access Components 2.5 (included with Microsoft Windows 2000)
> > > • Microsoft Data Access Components 2.6 (included with Microsoft SQL Server 2000)
> > > • Microsoft Data Access Components 2.7 (included with Microsoft Windows XP)
> > > • Microsoft Data Access Components 2.8 (included with Microsoft Windows Server 2003)
> >
> > Download the update from the above link. Close Internet Explorer (or
> > whichever browser you use), then install the update.
> >
> > From : http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sec.../MS04-003.mspx
> > Under the General Information heading, click the plus sign next to
> > Security Update Information
> > Ditto for Microsoft Data Access Components (all versions).
> >
> > > Restart Requirement
> > >
> > > You must restart your computer after you apply this security update.
> >
> >
> > MowGreen [MVP 2003-2006]
> > ===============
> > *-343-* FDNY
> > Never Forgotten
> > ===============
> >
> >
> > sabster wrote:
> >
> > > Hello everyone and thank you for taking your time to try to help me. For some
> > > strange reason, my windows updates shows an icon in the system tray saying
> > > that I need to update. If I do the update, then about 2-3 minutes later the
> > > icon reappears and shows the same update again to install. I've tried to
> > > search, but I can't find anything.
> > >
> > > I am running Windows 2000 and I tried to find the update in my Add/Remove
> > > programs to get rid of it, but it wasn't even there. For some reason it
> > > doesn't even install it!
> > >
> > > This is the update that is always reappearing and won't let me install:
> > >
> > > Security Update For Microsoft Data Access Components (KB832483)
> > >
> > > It's very weird and I hope I can solve it. Thank you.
> >

You're not the only experiencing this issue. Check the dahotfix.log to
see if it matches these entries :

> Target file is already at higher version.]:
> ================================================== =
> Target file : C:\WINNT\system32\odbc32.dll version:[3.520.6306.0]
> Source file version:[3.520.6301.0]
> [15:43:33]: The action (NULL!AllOrNoneFileByFileVersionCheck) returned FALSE.
> Either all of the PreInstallActions for this package returned FALSE, or
> there was a fatal error while executing an action.
> The package will not be installed. This error will not halt the setup
> process.
> [15:43:33]: Executing PreInstallActions for package.
> [15:43:33]: Loading function (CheckMDACVersionExact) from internal function
> list.
> [15:43:33]: 2.62,false[15:43:33]: Checking version of Microsoft Data Access
> Components that is currently installed on the machine.
> [15:43:33]: An error occurred while setup was trying to verify the version
> of Microsoft Data Access Components current installed on the machine.
> Either the version currently installed does not match the version of this
> hotfix package, or setup was unable to determine the version currently
> installed.
> [15:43:33]: The action (NULL!CheckMDACVersionExact) returned FALSE.
> Either all of the PreInstallActions for this package returned FALSE, or
> there was a fatal error while executing an action.
> The package will not be installed. This error will not halt the setup
> process.
> [15:43:33]: Executing PreInstallActions for package.
> [15:43:33]: Loading function (CheckMDACVersionExact) from internal function
> list.
> [15:43:33]: 2.62,false[15:43:33]: Checking version of Microsoft Data Access
> Components that is currently installed on the machine.
> [15:43:33]: An error occurred while setup was trying to verify the version
> of Microsoft Data Access Components current installed on the machine.
> Either the version currently installed does not match the version of this
> hotfix package, or setup was unable to determine the version currently
> installed.
> [15:43:33]: The action (NULL!CheckMDACVersionExact) returned FALSE.
> Either all of the PreInstallActions for this package returned FALSE, or
> there was a fatal error while executing an action.
> The package will not be installed. This error will not halt the setup
> process.
> [15:43:33]: Executing PreInstallActions for package.
> [15:43:33]: Loading function (CheckMDACVersionExact) from internal function
> list.
> [15:43:33]: 2.70,false[15:43:33]: Checking version of Microsoft Data Access
> Components that is currently installed on the machine.
> [15:43:33]: An error occurred while setup was trying to verify the version
> of Microsoft Data Access Components current installed on the machine.
> Either the version currently installed does not match the version of this
> hotfix package, or setup was unable to determine the version currently
> installed.

Strongly suggest you contact MS via email :
http://support.microsoft.com/oas/def...spx?gprid=6527
Apparently, there is still an issue with this Security update.

OR, download the MDAC Utility: Component Checker :
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en

" The tool is designed to help you determine installed version
information and diagnose installation issues with the Microsoft Data
Access Components (MDAC)"

If the Component Checker shows the version of MDAC as damaged, we can
attempt to reinstall it.


MowGreen [MVP 2003-2006]
===============
*-343-* FDNY
Never Forgotten
===============


sabster wrote:
> Thank you for taking time to try to answer my question, but your solution
> didn't work. I downloaded the update and closed everything. I even restarted
> the computer to try the file again.
>
> This is the error I get:
> "Target file is already at higher version. For Details see DaHotgix.log."
>
> Then after I hit ok, I get this error:
> "An error occured during setup.
> For more information you can look at the log file: C:/WINNT/dahotfix.log.
> You may need to contact your proudct support representative."
>
> After I hit OK, it closes.
>
> Definetly strange, huh?
>
> "MowGreen [MVP]" wrote:
>
>> sabster,
>>
>> According to:
>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sec.../MS04-003.mspx
>>
>>> The same update applies to all these versions of MDAC
>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en
>>
>>> • Microsoft Data Access Components 2.5 (included with Microsoft Windows 2000)
>>> • Microsoft Data Access Components 2.6 (included with Microsoft SQL Server 2000)
>>> • Microsoft Data Access Components 2.7 (included with Microsoft Windows XP)
>>> • Microsoft Data Access Components 2.8 (included with Microsoft Windows Server 2003)
>> Download the update from the above link. Close Internet Explorer (or
>> whichever browser you use), then install the update.
>>
>> From : http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sec.../MS04-003.mspx
>> Under the General Information heading, click the plus sign next to
>> Security Update Information
>> Ditto for Microsoft Data Access Components (all versions).
>>
>>> Restart Requirement
>>>
>>> You must restart your computer after you apply this security update.
>>
>> MowGreen [MVP 2003-2006]
>> ===============
>> *-343-* FDNY
>> Never Forgotten
>> ===============
>>
>>
>> sabster wrote:
>>
>>> Hello everyone and thank you for taking your time to try to help me. For some
>>> strange reason, my windows updates shows an icon in the system tray saying
>>> that I need to update. If I do the update, then about 2-3 minutes later the
>>> icon reappears and shows the same update again to install. I've tried to
>>> search, but I can't find anything.
>>>
>>> I am running Windows 2000 and I tried to find the update in my Add/Remove
>>> programs to get rid of it, but it wasn't even there. For some reason it
>>> doesn't even install it!
>>>
>>> This is the update that is always reappearing and won't let me install:
>>>
>>> Security Update For Microsoft Data Access Components (KB832483)
>>>
>>> It's very weird and I hope I can solve it. Thank you.

"Wil" <> wrote in message
news:821D8BB4-F474-4285-A7ED-...
>I appear to be having a similar, if not the same, problem. Here is the
> snippet from my dahotfix.log:
>
> ================================================== =
> [15:43:33]: Target file is already at higher version.[15:43:33]:
> ================================================== =
> Target file : C:\WINNT\system32\odbc32.dll version:[3.520.6306.0]
> Source file version:[3.520.6301.0]


That's pretty clear, isn't it? Somehow you already have a version of
a module which this update wants to install which supersedes the version
that it wants to install. Therefore, it won't install it.

Try to find out where you got the version that you have?
E.g. search your harddrive (including hidden files and folders)
for all instances of odbc32.dll

Tip: if you have the Windows Resource Kit for your OS or even just
your OS Support Tools package installed you may find that you have
a tool called filever.exe installed. Using that tool from a cmd window
may give a better presentation of the state of this module on your system.

One likely possibility is that besides in the usual operational directories
you will find it in some uninstall directories or other directories associated
with another update.

You need information such as that in order to decide what you can do
about resolving the discrepancy--e.g. perhaps uninstall whatever it is
which gave you the superseding version (which may be associated with
a less critical update and hence may not have been considered by the
update you are trying to install, etc.)


Hmm... or not.

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sec.../MS06-014.mspx

(MSN search for
odbc32 "3.520.6306.0"
)

That's 911562 and it's rated critical; so clearly that one would
properly supersede KB832483 (the one that OP is trying to install.)


Ok. So my next guess would be that there is some other module
contained in KB832483 which has been regressed from what
it would have installed and thus KB832483 is deemed necessary
to be reinstalled but it can't be reinstalled because some of the
other modules it contains (e.g. odbc32.dll) already supersede
the one which is being installed and thus prevent that regressed
module from being restored by that update.

The trick will be figuring out which module(s) are causing the
update to be reapplied. Perhaps this is a good occasion to
try using verbose mode logging? E.g. if WindowsUpdate.log
doesn't show you why KB832483 is being installed using just
ordinary logging, extra logging may provide more clues.
(ref. KB902093)

Alternatively you may be able to deduce the problem module(s)
by using the manifest contained in

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sec.../MS04-003.mspx

Hmm... that lists the same few modules multiple times,
apparently dependent on the level of MDAC that you have installed.

FYI there is a separate downloadable tool which may help clarify
what you have and in fact might even identify any discrepancies
for you:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en


Good luck

Robert Aldwinckle
---

The answer seems to be:

Try installing MDAC 2.8 SP1 first, before applying 832483
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en

- reply by Robin Walker at topic 'updating problem (windows 2000)' on 25 June

Worked for me

Me too