Another example why Vista is a piece of crap

Never a dull day. As previously mentioned I have a lot of external
drives that I mount and unmount several times during the course of a
day. Now Vista has found a new way to annoy me. My Cannon MP600
printer also runs off a USB hub. Out of the blue, when unmounting a
external drive by clicking on the Safely Remove Icon on the Task bar
Vista brings up drive letter Y for the drive I want to mount but it
also asks if I want to unmount Drive J.

Well you damn dumb piece of ****. I don't have any drive J. Vista sees
my Canon printer and Vista being crap gave it a drive letter. Oh well
so what. I was able to unmount the actual drive without Vista nagging
further.

Just for kicks I looked in Windows Explorer to see how drive J was
listed if at all. Sure enough it's listed as a "removable disk".

Microsoft, you got to have some of the dumbest programmers on the
planet that your software can confuse a printer with a hard drive.
Well golly, according to Vista my printer under properties has zero
bytes used and zero bytes total. Maybe next Vista will ask if I want
to format my printer.

On Tue, 9 Sep 2008 23:49:22 +0300, "leap frog vista"
<> wrote:

>does the printer have a card reader?

Yep.

On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 00:05:38 +0300, "leap frog vista"
<> wrote:

>most modern printers have card readers and they show as removable disks
>
>As I saw yours does have one
>http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/co...&modelid=13800
>
>"Print from compatible memory cards: The memory card slot lets you print
>photos direct. No computer needed!1"
>
>the card readers are made for taking the memory stick from a digital camera
>and inserting it in the printer
>to print directly OR/AND transfer files from the stick to the pc.
>
>this is totally normal.
>
>Vista is **** but lets insult it for the correct reasons ! LOL

Vista should be smart enough to know the difference between printers
and memory cards. I guess not. The reason I brought it up was I was
trying to shut down the external drive Y. Vista claimed it "was in
use", it wasn't, and somehow must have got confused with the printer
still being on since both are on the same USB hub. I turned the
printer off, only then would Vista let me unmount the external drive
"safely". I normally don't have the printer on when accessing my
external drives so this is the first time I've seen this.

On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 01:11:20 +0300, "leap frog vista"
<> wrote:

>Vista just sees the memory slots on the printer as separate drives.. it
>doesn't care if its on a printer or not. Xp does this too...
>
>vista may say the drive is in use because for example it had created
>thumbnails for files on the drive...
>
>If im sure that I don't have an app with some document open (for example a
>corel draw image or word file)
>then I just unplug whatever I want without worrying.
>
>why listen to a stupid OS that you know is fuked up? Unplug the thing as
>long as you don't have an important file open
>and forget about unmounting.

That's asking for trouble. You never know when Vista might query the
drive and if it happens to be in the process of reading or writing to
the drive when you attempt to unmount it you run a high risk of
corrupting some or all of the drive's contents.

On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 16:24:29 +0300, Warp 10 wrote:

> By default, USB storage is optimized for quick removal. What that means
> in practice is that write caching is turned off, so windows doesn't wait
> and keep stuff in memory waiting for the best time to write it to the
> drive. That also means that windows doesn't have to flush the cache
> before telling you it is safe to remove the drive.
>
> Optimize for quick removal doesn't mean there will never be a write in
> progress when you pull out the drive, and if there is, you might loose
> data. You are probably safe if you wait until the drive hasn't shown any
> activity for 10-15 seconds.
>
>
>
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Hey Alias

Something happened to this ng in the past couple of days. Frank, Da Lamb
Chop and Da Baboon do not seem to be hassling other posters when they wish
to express their views. What do you think is happening here?