another vista stupidity that thank god didnt happen this time!

they wanted to call IE7 for vista IE7 PLUS
while leaving the IE7 name for windows XP machines...

http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2006/05/26/608255.aspx


It seems that while with XP they were going for simplicity and ease of use
in vista they went with the "mix everything up as much as you can so simple
things can get confusing"

And no im not talking about me. I know everything about vista..
I am talking about the average user out there who hava a superficial
knowlage of computers.

Bink wrote:

> they wanted to call IE7 for vista IE7 PLUS
> while leaving the IE7 name for windows XP machines...
>
> http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2006/05/26/608255.aspx
>
>
> It seems that while with XP they were going for simplicity and ease
> of use in vista they went with the "mix everything up as much as you
> can so simple things can get confusing"
>
> And no im not talking about me. I know everything about vista..
> I am talking about the average user out there who hava a superficial
> knowlage of computers.

I disagree with you completely. They didn't go for simplicity in XP.
People just got used to it, and tired of spending time on telling
everyone else how bad it was. Take a look at newsgroups when XP came
out. Exactly the same whining about this and that and the other. People
didn't know the OS yet and drivers weren't available for everything.
It's the same all over again with Vista. I've been through all major
Windows updates (and Linux updates for that matter), and it's always
the same gripe when something new is out until the dust settles and
people find that they actually are getting the job done anyway.

For my use Vista is better than XP ever was. It's faster, more stable
and better looking. The important aspects of Vista is under the hood
(memory management, disk access etc.). And under the hood Vista is the
best Windows ever.

I still miss the up button in Explorer though! What's up with that?
People tell me I do not need it for some reason. I do need it. Where
did it go?

--
//ceed

The "breadcrumb" system in windows explorer works like an up button if you
press it... its more versitle but as all things vista is non itnuitive. a
person can understand an up button but if someone does not explain the
breadcrumb fuctionality you dont know it and therefore you dont use it.
google breadcrumb vista and you will see what I mean.

there is an extension if you want to add an up button:
http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windo...up-button-too/


XP had a clear interface with silly but understabible colors... with new
themes based on msstyles you could make it look very cool too.

XP was not new exactly it was based on win2k...
but win2k was not a consumer OS.

Over all XP was a huge improvment over win98

and vista is an obscure and strange degrade to XP.. ugly in all aspects.

as for under the hood. dont make me laugh.. vista is slower by 20-50 % than
XP depending on your hardware...

the memory managment and other idiotic tricks like readyboost have no
meaning since the performance of the OS is clearly worse than XP.


Its NOT about getting used to something.. I test various OS for fun.. I like
the challange of learning new things all the time..
I learn new programs and get used to new updates on a multitude of
programs... I keep myself well informed..
and I am always at the razor edge of advancements.


and thats why I hate vista.. its a bad creation its a leap backwards... one
that belongs in the bin basket.





"ceed" <> wrote in message
news: t...
> Bink wrote:
>
>> they wanted to call IE7 for vista IE7 PLUS
>> while leaving the IE7 name for windows XP machines...
>>
>> http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2006/05/26/608255.aspx
>>
>>
>> It seems that while with XP they were going for simplicity and ease
>> of use in vista they went with the "mix everything up as much as you
>> can so simple things can get confusing"
>>
>> And no im not talking about me. I know everything about vista..
>> I am talking about the average user out there who hava a superficial
>> knowlage of computers.
>
> I disagree with you completely. They didn't go for simplicity in XP.
> People just got used to it, and tired of spending time on telling
> everyone else how bad it was. Take a look at newsgroups when XP came
> out. Exactly the same whining about this and that and the other. People
> didn't know the OS yet and drivers weren't available for everything.
> It's the same all over again with Vista. I've been through all major
> Windows updates (and Linux updates for that matter), and it's always
> the same gripe when something new is out until the dust settles and
> people find that they actually are getting the job done anyway.
>
> For my use Vista is better than XP ever was. It's faster, more stable
> and better looking. The important aspects of Vista is under the hood
> (memory management, disk access etc.). And under the hood Vista is the
> best Windows ever.
>
> I still miss the up button in Explorer though! What's up with that?
> People tell me I do not need it for some reason. I do need it. Where
> did it go?
>
> --
> //ceed

I eat vista wrote:

|The "breadcrumb" system in windows explorer works like an up button
|if you press it... its more versitle but as all things vista is non
|itnuitive. a person can understand an up button but if someone does
|not explain the breadcrumb fuctionality you dont know it and
|therefore you dont use it. google breadcrumb vista and you will see
|what I mean.
|
|there is an extension if you want to add an up button:
|http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windo...orer-add-on-fo
|r-windows-vista-and-an-up-button-too/
|
|
|XP had a clear interface with silly but understabible colors... with
|new themes based on msstyles you could make it look very cool too.
|
|XP was not new exactly it was based on win2k...
|but win2k was not a consumer OS.
|
|Over all XP was a huge improvment over win98
|
|and vista is an obscure and strange degrade to XP.. ugly in all
|aspects.
|
|as for under the hood. dont make me laugh.. vista is slower by 20-50
|% than XP depending on your hardware...
|
|the memory managment and other idiotic tricks like readyboost have no
|meaning since the performance of the OS is clearly worse than XP.
|
|
|Its NOT about getting used to something.. I test various OS for fun..
|I like the challange of learning new things all the time.. I learn
|new programs and get used to new updates on a multitude of
|programs... I keep myself well informed.. and I am always at the
|razor edge of advancements.
|
|
|and thats why I hate vista.. its a bad creation its a leap
|backwards... one that belongs in the bin basket.
|
|

I'm not going to have the discussion again for the Nth time. But you
can't just say things like "%30-50 slower" without quantifying it. It's
a fact that Vista has better disk access and memory management than XP.

If it seems to be slower it may be things running on top causing that
like the Aero look. That has nothing to do with the core OS at all and
can be removed. One could have a discussion about what should be
included in an OS, but that's another story. I just remove stuff if I
do not like it and are left with a better core OS than XP ever was. And
then there are people who like fluff on top of their OS and are willing
to take a speed hit for it, or purchase more hw power to run it all.
They should really love Vista!

I've seen people argue against Vista using facts and knowledge. You are
not one of them.

Finally, I think Vista is the best looking Windows product ever.
Period!

--
//ceed

I am basing my opinion on hundreds of hours of work time on vista and other
OS, experimenting, installing testing, etc.

What I am saying is a fact without even a speck of doubt.

sorry aero was meant to use the GPU instead of the CPU thus that cant be the
reason why its slower.

its slower because its overly bloated with insignificant things that you
cant disable easily.. believe me.. I have made a science out of trying to
get some performance out of the monstrosity called vista..

its a painstaking and aggravating battle...

Even Vlite cant remove enough things.. you end up with a hacked up machine.

Dual cores with more than 1 gb act strangely slow.. this just should not be!

server 2008 is faster when you don't install the desktop experience (bloated
trash) but still its slower than XP.

Vista is the worse OS Microsoft has ever made(*). PERIOD.

This is because of the way they are designing it...

(*)taking in to account the advancements of current technology Vista is even
worse than windows Me of its time.


"ceed" <> wrote in message
news: t...
>I eat vista wrote:
>
> |The "breadcrumb" system in windows explorer works like an up button
> |if you press it... its more versitle but as all things vista is non
> |itnuitive. a person can understand an up button but if someone does
> |not explain the breadcrumb fuctionality you dont know it and
> |therefore you dont use it. google breadcrumb vista and you will see
> |what I mean.
> |
> |there is an extension if you want to add an up button:
> |http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windo...orer-add-on-fo
> |r-windows-vista-and-an-up-button-too/
> |
> |
> |XP had a clear interface with silly but understabible colors... with
> |new themes based on msstyles you could make it look very cool too.
> |
> |XP was not new exactly it was based on win2k...
> |but win2k was not a consumer OS.
> |
> |Over all XP was a huge improvment over win98
> |
> |and vista is an obscure and strange degrade to XP.. ugly in all
> |aspects.
> |
> |as for under the hood. dont make me laugh.. vista is slower by 20-50
> |% than XP depending on your hardware...
> |
> |the memory managment and other idiotic tricks like readyboost have no
> |meaning since the performance of the OS is clearly worse than XP.
> |
> |
> |Its NOT about getting used to something.. I test various OS for fun..
> |I like the challange of learning new things all the time.. I learn
> |new programs and get used to new updates on a multitude of
> |programs... I keep myself well informed.. and I am always at the
> |razor edge of advancements.
> |
> |
> |and thats why I hate vista.. its a bad creation its a leap
> |backwards... one that belongs in the bin basket.
> |
> |
>
> I'm not going to have the discussion again for the Nth time. But you
> can't just say things like "%30-50 slower" without quantifying it. It's
> a fact that Vista has better disk access and memory management than XP.
>
> If it seems to be slower it may be things running on top causing that
> like the Aero look. That has nothing to do with the core OS at all and
> can be removed. One could have a discussion about what should be
> included in an OS, but that's another story. I just remove stuff if I
> do not like it and are left with a better core OS than XP ever was. And
> then there are people who like fluff on top of their OS and are willing
> to take a speed hit for it, or purchase more hw power to run it all.
> They should really love Vista!
>
> I've seen people argue against Vista using facts and knowledge. You are
> not one of them.
>
> Finally, I think Vista is the best looking Windows product ever.
> Period!
>
> --
> //ceed

"Bink" <> wrote in message
news:...
> they wanted to call IE7 for vista IE7 PLUS
> while leaving the IE7 name for windows XP machines...
> And no im not talking about me. I know everything about vista..
> I am talking about the average user out there who hava a superficial
> knowlage of computers.
>

HA HA HA - You know everything about Vista but NOTHING about spelling. You
KNOW very little about Vista you A$$

KNOWLEDGE is the correct spelling, Mr. Know-It-All.

Just FYI

Bink wrote:

>
> ...And no im not talking about me. I know everything about vista..

Right capin' crunch...you know everything...hahaha...lol!
BTW, how's that inter-galactic spaceship coming along, huh?
Ready for warp speed?
Frank

I eat vista wrote:

> I am basing my opinion on hundreds of hours of work time on vista and other
> OS, experimenting, installing testing, etc.

Shut up! It's only your opinion...nothing more...and just who the fukk
are you...you're capin' crunch!
>
> What I am saying is a fact without even a speck of doubt.

Don't make me laugh! You're just another confused trying-to-learn-Vista
user.
Grow up! Get out of your mom's basement and see the light!
>
> sorry aero was meant to use the GPU instead of the CPU thus that cant be the
> reason why its slower.

Slower than what...the other 'aero"...you're really confused.
>
> its slower because its overly bloated with insignificant things that you
> cant disable easily.. believe me.. I have made a science out of trying to
> get some performance out of the monstrosity called vista..

Look, if you can't figure out the simple things...like how to customize
Vista then go back to etch a sketch ok?
>
> its a painstaking and aggravating battle...

That bad huh? Well it's all between your brain (?) and the keyboard.
>
> Even Vlite cant remove enough things.. you end up with a hacked up machine.
>

Only an idiot like you would try and hack up Vista...moron!

> Dual cores with more than 1 gb act strangely slow.. this just should not be!


Not really, considering how much you've screwed up a fine working system!
>
> server 2008 is faster when you don't install the desktop experience (bloated
> trash) but still its slower than XP.

Wanna bet?
>
> Vista is the worse OS Microsoft has ever made(*). PERIOD.

You're the worst computer users of all times. You've screwed up
everything you've touched.
Go back to that spaceship you've got in the basement and leave the heavy
lifting to us real computer users ok capin' crunch?
>
> This is because of the way they are designing it...

Hahaha...yeah, you need to go to linux and roll your own, ok?
>
> (*)taking in to account the advancements of current technology Vista is even
> worse than windows Me of its time.

You need to get an education so you can stop making such a fool out of
yourself.
BTW, what time will we hit warp speed capin' crunch?
Frank

Oh, and BTW, you only eat sh*t!

frank you are the most pathetic loser I have ever seen in a newsgroup or
anywhere for that matter.

You beat them all .. at least you are number one at something



"Frank" <> wrote in message
news:%...
>I eat vista wrote:
>
>> I am basing my opinion on hundreds of hours of work time on vista and
>> other OS, experimenting, installing testing, etc.
>
> Shut up! It's only your opinion...nothing more...and just who the fukk are
> you...you're capin' crunch!
>>
>> What I am saying is a fact without even a speck of doubt.
>
> Don't make me laugh! You're just another confused trying-to-learn-Vista
> user.
> Grow up! Get out of your mom's basement and see the light!
>>
>> sorry aero was meant to use the GPU instead of the CPU thus that cant be
>> the reason why its slower.
>
> Slower than what...the other 'aero"...you're really confused.
>>
>> its slower because its overly bloated with insignificant things that you
>> cant disable easily.. believe me.. I have made a science out of trying to
>> get some performance out of the monstrosity called vista..
>
> Look, if you can't figure out the simple things...like how to customize
> Vista then go back to etch a sketch ok?
>>
>> its a painstaking and aggravating battle...
>
> That bad huh? Well it's all between your brain (?) and the keyboard.
>>
>> Even Vlite cant remove enough things.. you end up with a hacked up
>> machine.
>>
>
> Only an idiot like you would try and hack up Vista...moron!
>
>> Dual cores with more than 1 gb act strangely slow.. this just should not
>> be!
>
>
> Not really, considering how much you've screwed up a fine working system!
>>
>> server 2008 is faster when you don't install the desktop experience
>> (bloated trash) but still its slower than XP.
>
> Wanna bet?
>>
>> Vista is the worse OS Microsoft has ever made(*). PERIOD.
>
> You're the worst computer users of all times. You've screwed up everything
> you've touched.
> Go back to that spaceship you've got in the basement and leave the heavy
> lifting to us real computer users ok capin' crunch?
>>
>> This is because of the way they are designing it...
>
> Hahaha...yeah, you need to go to linux and roll your own, ok?
>>
>> (*)taking in to account the advancements of current technology Vista is
>> even worse than windows Me of its time.
>
> You need to get an education so you can stop making such a fool out of
> yourself.
> BTW, what time will we hit warp speed capin' crunch?
> Frank
>
> Oh, and BTW, you only eat sh*t!

Has a monkey gone out of your but or is it you who inhabit the dark smelly
caves?

I will add you to the list of incredibly stupid vista newsgroup users. The
list is not very long but you deserve a space in it!


"Ezmerelda LaDouche" <> wrote in message
news:...
>
> "Bink" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> they wanted to call IE7 for vista IE7 PLUS
>> while leaving the IE7 name for windows XP machines...
>> And no im not talking about me. I know everything about vista..
>> I am talking about the average user out there who hava a superficial
>> knowlage of computers.
>>
>
> HA HA HA - You know everything about Vista but NOTHING about spelling.
> You KNOW very little about Vista you A$$
>
> KNOWLEDGE is the correct spelling, Mr. Know-It-All.
>
> Just FYI
>