Any "hack" to force Vista to hibernate?

Is there any known hack to force Vista Ultimate
into hibernation mode?

I suspect not, because in Vista Help there is a
statement that hibernation is no longer available.


Exact wording in Vista Help:

"This version of Windows combines standby and
hibernate into a single power-saving state
called sleep"



Later on in the same Vista Help it contradicts
itself by stating:

"Hibernate is still available as an advanced
power setting, see 'Change power management
settings'. "

When a user faithfully jumps through those
hoops, hibernate refuses to work in Vista.


Hibernate, in XP, is a state where you can have
an application open and running on the desktop,
WordPad for example.

If you hibernate in XP, it saves the present state
of the open WordPad to disk, then turns off the PC.

Turns the desktop PC completely off.


Next time you apply power to the PC, say weeks later,
WordPad opens on your desktop automatically, with the
same document half finished, just the way you left it
when you hibernated weeks earlier.

Mark-

Sleep refers to a hybrid suspend/hibernate mode, the system state is written
to the hard drive, but RAM remains powered so the machine can quickly
resume.

Hybrid sleep can be disabled in the advanced power options which will
present you with the classic suspend and hibernate options in the Start
Menu.

A system using hybrid sleep can also go into hibernation after a given
amount of time to avoid running a battery down.

--
Paul Smith,
Yeovil, UK.
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User.
http://www.dasmirnov.net/blog/
http://www.windowsresource.net/

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"Mark Conrad" <> wrote in message
news:noneof-...
>
> Is there any known hack to force Vista Ultimate
> into hibernation mode?
>
> I suspect not, because in Vista Help there is a
> statement that hibernation is no longer available.
>
>
> Exact wording in Vista Help:
>
> "This version of Windows combines standby and
> hibernate into a single power-saving state
> called sleep"
>
>
>
> Later on in the same Vista Help it contradicts
> itself by stating:
>
> "Hibernate is still available as an advanced
> power setting, see 'Change power management
> settings'. "
>
> When a user faithfully jumps through those
> hoops, hibernate refuses to work in Vista.
>
>
> Hibernate, in XP, is a state where you can have
> an application open and running on the desktop,
> WordPad for example.
>
> If you hibernate in XP, it saves the present state
> of the open WordPad to disk, then turns off the PC.
>
> Turns the desktop PC completely off.
>
>
> Next time you apply power to the PC, say weeks later,
> WordPad opens on your desktop automatically, with the
> same document half finished, just the way you left it
> when you hibernated weeks earlier.
>
> Mark-

Mark Conrad;583427 Wrote:
> Is there any known hack to force Vista Ultimate
> into hibernation mode?
>
> I suspect not, because in Vista Help there is a
> statement that hibernation is no longer available.
>
>
> Exact wording in Vista Help:
>
> "This version of Windows combines standby and
> hibernate into a single power-saving state
> called sleep"
>
>
>
> Later on in the same Vista Help it contradicts
> itself by stating:
>
> "Hibernate is still available as an advanced
> power setting, see 'Change power management
> settings'. "
>
> When a user faithfully jumps through those
> hoops, hibernate refuses to work in Vista.
>
>
> Hibernate, in XP, is a state where you can have
> an application open and running on the desktop,
> WordPad for example.
>
> If you hibernate in XP, it saves the present state
> of the open WordPad to disk, then turns off the PC.
>
> Turns the desktop PC completely off.
>
>
> Next time you apply power to the PC, say weeks later,
> WordPad opens on your desktop automatically, with the
> same document half finished, just the way you left it
> when you hibernated weeks earlier.
>
> Mark-

Hi Mark,

You can see if this Hibernation shortcut will put your computer into
Hibernation if you did not clear the Hibernation file in Disk Cleanup.

http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/74022-hibernate.html


You should be able to setup the Power Options to set "Hibernate After"
for what you want. See Step Two step 6D.

http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/63...-problems.html

Hope this helps,
Shawn


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Thanks for the tips.

In my case, the computer is a desktop machine which
I desire to remove all power from, in order to protect
the computer and my "very rural" home from the possibility
of fire during lengthy vacations. (several months)

I already had one Tripp-Lite UPS spontaneously catch
on fire - - - in that case I was lucky, because I was
in the house at the time.

I have the hardware and software needed to remotely
power-on the desktop computer from a dead cold start,
on those occasions when I need to remotely power-up
that desktop computer.

Mark-





In article <6A363F73-90C4-4D8C-8204->,
"Paul Smith" <> wrote:

> Sleep refers to a hybrid suspend/hibernate mode, the system state is written
> to the hard drive, but RAM remains powered so the machine can quickly
> resume.
>
> Hybrid sleep can be disabled in the advanced power options which will
> present you with the classic suspend and hibernate options in the Start
> Menu.
>
> A system using hybrid sleep can also go into hibernation after a given
> amount of time to avoid running a battery down.
>
> --
> Paul Smith,
> Yeovil, UK.
> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User.
> http://www.dasmirnov.net/blog/
> http://www.windowsresource.net/
>
> *Remove nospam. to reply by e-mail*

In article <>,
Brink <> wrote:

> Hi Mark,
>
> You can see if this Hibernation shortcut will put your computer into
> Hibernation if you did not clear the Hibernation file in Disk Cleanup.
>
> http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/74022-hibernate.html
>
>
> You should be able to setup the Power Options to set "Hibernate After"
> for what you want. See Step Two step 6D.
>
> http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/63...-problems.html
>
> Hope this helps,
> Shawn



Wow! - greatly appreciate those links to Vista64.com

Links certainly are simple enough to comprehend.

I will try the directions there and get back here
to report what luck I had.

Thanks,

Mark-

In article <>,
Brink <> wrote:

> Hi Mark,
>
> You can see if this Hibernation shortcut will put your computer into
> Hibernation if you did not clear the Hibernation file in Disk Cleanup.
>
> http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/74022-hibernate.html
>

Thanks Shawn, that hibernate article that did the trick.


In my case the hibernation of my Vista Ultimate shuts
my desktop computer completely off, which is what I want.

I can even unplug the main AC power to the desktop
computer, being fully confident that
no data will be destroyed.

(open app's on Vista's desktop, for example)



One small hitch still occurs that I can't figure out
how to get around.

When I later power on the desktop computer, the darn
log-on screen comes on, which of course means that
the computer can not be ran unattended.

Only with Vista, not with XP.

With XP, the log-on screen is bypassed altogether,
which is what I desire.

(on the same desktop computer, BTW)


I tried everything I could think of with Vista,
including placing the app' in the "Startup" folder
of the "Start" menu.

Can't automatically bypass the Vista log-in screen.

Is this a new wired-in security feature of the
Vista OS that can no longer be bypassed?



I hope not, I really do not want to revert to
using XP Pro, kinda getting used to Vista

Mark-

On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 13:31:26 -0800, Mark Conrad
<> wrote:

>In article <>,
> Brink <> wrote:
>
>> Hi Mark,
>>
>> You can see if this Hibernation shortcut will put your computer into
>> Hibernation if you did not clear the Hibernation file in Disk Cleanup.
>>
>> http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/74022-hibernate.html
>>
>
>Thanks Shawn, that hibernate article that did the trick.
>
>
>In my case the hibernation of my Vista Ultimate shuts
>my desktop computer completely off, which is what I want.
>
>I can even unplug the main AC power to the desktop
>computer, being fully confident that
>no data will be destroyed.
>
>(open app's on Vista's desktop, for example)
>
>
>
>One small hitch still occurs that I can't figure out
>how to get around.
>
>When I later power on the desktop computer, the darn
>log-on screen comes on, which of course means that
>the computer can not be ran unattended.
>
>Only with Vista, not with XP.
>
>With XP, the log-on screen is bypassed altogether,
>which is what I desire.
>
>(on the same desktop computer, BTW)
>
>
>I tried everything I could think of with Vista,
>including placing the app' in the "Startup" folder
>of the "Start" menu.
>
>Can't automatically bypass the Vista log-in screen.
>
>Is this a new wired-in security feature of the
>Vista OS that can no longer be bypassed?
>
>
>
>I hope not, I really do not want to revert to
>using XP Pro, kinda getting used to Vista
>
>Mark-
To bypass the log on screen of XP or Vista start, run, "control
userpasswords2"(no quotes) this will bring you a screen that near the
top is a check box chosing whether to use the log on screen or not.
You MUST have the check box checked then make a choice as to the
account you want auto logged on, then uncheck the box and click apply.
You will then be prompted to type in the password, twice, and then
when you reboot no password is required.

Mark Conrad;584733 Wrote:
> In article <>,
> Brink <> wrote:
> > > >
> > > Hi Mark,
> > >
> > > You can see if this Hibernation shortcut will put your computer into
> > > Hibernation if you did not clear the Hibernation file in Disk
> > Cleanup.
> > >
> > > http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/74022-hibernate.html
> > > > >
>
> Thanks Shawn, that hibernate article that did the trick.
>
>
> In my case the hibernation of my Vista Ultimate shuts
> my desktop computer completely off, which is what I want.
>
> I can even unplug the main AC power to the desktop
> computer, being fully confident that
> no data will be destroyed.
>
> (open app's on Vista's desktop, for example)
>
>
>
> One small hitch still occurs that I can't figure out
> how to get around.
>
> When I later power on the desktop computer, the darn
> log-on screen comes on, which of course means that
> the computer can not be ran unattended.
>
> Only with Vista, not with XP.
>
> With XP, the log-on screen is bypassed altogether,
> which is what I desire.
>
> (on the same desktop computer, BTW)
>
>
> I tried everything I could think of with Vista,
> including placing the app' in the "Startup" folder
> of the "Start" menu.
>
> Can't automatically bypass the Vista log-in screen.
>
> Is this a new wired-in security feature of the
> Vista OS that can no longer be bypassed?
>
>
>
> I hope not, I really do not want to revert to
> using XP Pro, kinda getting used to Vista
>
> Mark-

Hi Mark,

In addition to f/fgeorge's post, this will show you how to have Vista
logon automatically to a user account you select. You will still get the
"Resume" screen from hibernation though.

http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/66...matically.html

Shawn


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That is a setting in the advanced power options to turn off?

"f/fgeorge" <> wrote in message
news...
> On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 13:31:26 -0800, Mark Conrad
> <> wrote:
>
>>In article <>,
>> Brink <> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Mark,
>>>
>>> You can see if this Hibernation shortcut will put your computer into
>>> Hibernation if you did not clear the Hibernation file in Disk Cleanup.
>>>
>>> http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/74022-hibernate.html
>>>
>>
>>Thanks Shawn, that hibernate article that did the trick.
>>
>>
>>In my case the hibernation of my Vista Ultimate shuts
>>my desktop computer completely off, which is what I want.
>>
>>I can even unplug the main AC power to the desktop
>>computer, being fully confident that
>>no data will be destroyed.
>>
>>(open app's on Vista's desktop, for example)
>>
>>
>>
>>One small hitch still occurs that I can't figure out
>>how to get around.
>>
>>When I later power on the desktop computer, the darn
>>log-on screen comes on, which of course means that
>>the computer can not be ran unattended.
>>
>>Only with Vista, not with XP.
>>
>>With XP, the log-on screen is bypassed altogether,
>>which is what I desire.
>>
>>(on the same desktop computer, BTW)
>>
>>
>>I tried everything I could think of with Vista,
>>including placing the app' in the "Startup" folder
>>of the "Start" menu.
>>
>>Can't automatically bypass the Vista log-in screen.
>>
>>Is this a new wired-in security feature of the
>>Vista OS that can no longer be bypassed?
>>
>>
>>
>>I hope not, I really do not want to revert to
>>using XP Pro, kinda getting used to Vista
>>
>>Mark-
> To bypass the log on screen of XP or Vista start, run, "control
> userpasswords2"(no quotes) this will bring you a screen that near the
> top is a check box chosing whether to use the log on screen or not.
> You MUST have the check box checked then make a choice as to the
> account you want auto logged on, then uncheck the box and click apply.
> You will then be prompted to type in the password, twice, and then
> when you reboot no password is required.

But this motherboard won't stay asleep nor hibernate if I replace every
instance of sleep with hibernate.

"KewlToyZ" <> wrote in message
news:1D20B952-877E-4648-B4C9-...
> That is a setting in the advanced power options to turn off?
>
> "f/fgeorge" <> wrote in message
> news...
>> On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 13:31:26 -0800, Mark Conrad
>> <> wrote:
>>
>>>In article <>,
>>> Brink <> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Mark,
>>>>
>>>> You can see if this Hibernation shortcut will put your computer into
>>>> Hibernation if you did not clear the Hibernation file in Disk Cleanup.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/74022-hibernate.html
>>>>
>>>
>>>Thanks Shawn, that hibernate article that did the trick.
>>>
>>>
>>>In my case the hibernation of my Vista Ultimate shuts
>>>my desktop computer completely off, which is what I want.
>>>
>>>I can even unplug the main AC power to the desktop
>>>computer, being fully confident that
>>>no data will be destroyed.
>>>
>>>(open app's on Vista's desktop, for example)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>One small hitch still occurs that I can't figure out
>>>how to get around.
>>>
>>>When I later power on the desktop computer, the darn
>>>log-on screen comes on, which of course means that
>>>the computer can not be ran unattended.
>>>
>>>Only with Vista, not with XP.
>>>
>>>With XP, the log-on screen is bypassed altogether,
>>>which is what I desire.
>>>
>>>(on the same desktop computer, BTW)
>>>
>>>
>>>I tried everything I could think of with Vista,
>>>including placing the app' in the "Startup" folder
>>>of the "Start" menu.
>>>
>>>Can't automatically bypass the Vista log-in screen.
>>>
>>>Is this a new wired-in security feature of the
>>>Vista OS that can no longer be bypassed?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>I hope not, I really do not want to revert to
>>>using XP Pro, kinda getting used to Vista
>>>
>>>Mark-
>> To bypass the log on screen of XP or Vista start, run, "control
>> userpasswords2"(no quotes) this will bring you a screen that near the
>> top is a check box chosing whether to use the log on screen or not.
>> You MUST have the check box checked then make a choice as to the
>> account you want auto logged on, then uncheck the box and click apply.
>> You will then be prompted to type in the password, twice, and then
>> when you reboot no password is required.
>