Any way to manually install updates?

My computer is using windows xp. I have it set to manually download updates.
When I manually download updates, I am not given an option to install the
updates other than "Install updates and shutdown", which I don't want to do.
Is there any way to kick off the installation manually? I don't get any
prompt or request to install at the time I download. The little icon in the
taskbar usually shows up about 2 days after the download saying there are
updates to install.

Where you can get updates to manually install -
Security updates are available on ISO-9660 CD image files from the Microsoft
Download Center
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/913086

You can also download individual updates from the Catalog and save to be
installed later.
http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/v7/site/Home.aspx

Click Add button for each update you want to download. Once you have what
you want, Click the “Go To Download Basket� link. Type in or browse to the
location where you want the updates saved to and then Click the “Download
Now� button.
Once downloaded, you can then burn them to CD.

How to download updates and drivers from the Windows Update Catalog or from
the Microsoft Update Catalog
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/323166

Microsoft Download Page
http://office.microsoft.com/en-au/do...px?ofcresset=1


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"OCnStiggs" wrote:

> My computer is using windows xp. I have it set to manually download updates.
> When I manually download updates, I am not given an option to install the
> updates other than "Install updates and shutdown", which I don't want to do.
> Is there any way to kick off the installation manually? I don't get any
> prompt or request to install at the time I download. The little icon in the
> taskbar usually shows up about 2 days after the download saying there are
> updates to install.

Reference:

Microsoft Update Product Team Blog: Update Notifications and
Install-at-Shutdown Behavior:
http://blogs.technet.com/mu/archive/...-shutdown.aspx

With the Notify Only option enabled, you'll only see AU's "Updates are ready
to be installed" icon when all (not just some) of the updates you've
approved have downloaded.

In such cases, you may encounter an "Install updates and turn off computer"
button when you go to shutdown. Using it will install the
already-downloaded updates but there's no way of knowing which updates
you're installing. MS is aware of this unwanted behavior.

Absent any serious numerical Errors in your windowsupdate.log (cf.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/902093), you may be seeing a delay caused by
excessive demand on the servers ("Update is not allowed to download due to
regulation"). See...

Updates are not downloaded or the “Automatic Updates� icon does not display
the status of downloads when you enable the Automatic Updates service
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/910340

You can install the updates via Windows/Microsoft Update website (WinXP) or
by running Windows Update manually (Vista) instead: Understand that by doing
so, you're pushing all other Automatic Updates users further back in the
queue (which may explain, at least in part, why Automatic Updates hasn't
brought them in for you yet).
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
www.banthecheck.com


OCnStiggs wrote:
> My computer is using windows xp. I have it set to manually download
> updates. When I manually download updates, I am not given an option to
> install the updates other than "Install updates and shutdown", which I
> don't want to do. Is there any way to kick off the installation manually?
> I don't get any prompt or request to install at the time I download. The
> little icon in the taskbar usually shows up about 2 days after the
> download
> saying there are updates to install.

Thanks for the attempted help.

I'm NOT using automatic updates. I have it set to notify me so that I can
do it manually. It prompts me that updates are available. I click on the
shield icon and follow through and it downloads the updates. However, when
its done, it does not give me a prompt to install the updates. After this,
if I'm running my machine locally, on the shutdown menu I have the option to
"Install the updates and shutdown", so it knows that they are there and ready
to be installed. The problem is I am often running my machine remotely, so I
don't want to shut it down, I just want to install, or install and restart.
Usually after about two days, the shield icon will reappear and notify me
that I have updates that have been downloaded and ask me if I would like to
install them. So I'm trying to find out if there is a way to get the system
to install the updates that I have just downloaded right after it finishes
downloading them. And I'll say again, it does not prompt me to install
immediately after I have downloaded them. The shield comes back and prompts
me to install a couple of days after the download. If you still don't
follow, look at the automatic updates dialog, I have the radio button
selected for "Notify me but don't automatically download or install them."

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

> Reference:
>
> Microsoft Update Product Team Blog: Update Notifications and
> Install-at-Shutdown Behavior:
> http://blogs.technet.com/mu/archive/...-shutdown.aspx
>
> With the Notify Only option enabled, you'll only see AU's "Updates are ready
> to be installed" icon when all (not just some) of the updates you've
> approved have downloaded.
>
> In such cases, you may encounter an "Install updates and turn off computer"
> button when you go to shutdown. Using it will install the
> already-downloaded updates but there's no way of knowing which updates
> you're installing. MS is aware of this unwanted behavior.
>
> Absent any serious numerical Errors in your windowsupdate.log (cf.
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/902093), you may be seeing a delay caused by
> excessive demand on the servers ("Update is not allowed to download due to
> regulation"). See...
>
> Updates are not downloaded or the “Automatic Updates� icon does not display
> the status of downloads when you enable the Automatic Updates service
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/910340
>
> You can install the updates via Windows/Microsoft Update website (WinXP) or
> by running Windows Update manually (Vista) instead: Understand that by doing
> so, you're pushing all other Automatic Updates users further back in the
> queue (which may explain, at least in part, why Automatic Updates hasn't
> brought them in for you yet).
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
> www.banthecheck.com
>
>
> OCnStiggs wrote:
> > My computer is using windows xp. I have it set to manually download
> > updates. When I manually download updates, I am not given an option to
> > install the updates other than "Install updates and shutdown", which I
> > don't want to do. Is there any way to kick off the installation manually?
> > I don't get any prompt or request to install at the time I download. The
> > little icon in the taskbar usually shows up about 2 days after the
> > download
> > saying there are updates to install.
>
>

OCnStiggs wrote:
> My computer is using windows xp. I have it set to manually
> download updates. When I manually download updates, I am not given
> an option to install the updates other than "Install updates and
> shutdown", which I don't want to do. Is there any way to kick off
> the installation manually? I don't get any prompt or request to
> install at the time I download. The little icon in the taskbar
> usually shows up about 2 days after the download saying there are
> updates to install.

Take full control.

Turn off Automatic Updates completely - do not even have it notify you.
Periodically (at least after the second Tuesday of each month) visit
http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/ and perform a custom scan and select and
install updates - only do that when you are ready to install and restart the
computer.

Setup an email reminder or a calendar reminder or a scheduled task to remind
you if you think you will forget for months at a time.

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

> I'm NOT using automatic updates. I have it set to notify me so that I can
> do it manually. It prompts me that updates are available. I click on the
> shield icon and follow through and it downloads the updates.

You ARE using Automatic Updates (AU) but it's not configured to the
"automatic" setting. See this illustration:
http://www.microsoft.com/library/med...ic_updates.jpg

> ...It prompts me that updates are available. I click on the
> shield icon and follow through and it downloads the updates.

This tells us that you've selected the third setting option: "Notify me but
don't automatically download or install them."

NB: Users can also see the very same behavior when the "Download...but let
me choose..." option is selected.

If an approved update has been downloaded but other approved updates have
not, that's when you're likely to encounter the "Install updates and turn
off computer" button when you go to shutdown (per my previous reply). Yes,
this is in DIRECT CONTRADICTION to your intentional AU setting. Many of us
have bitched to MS about this, both publicly and privately.

See
http://msmvps.com/blogs/bradley/arch...-updating.aspx

See the Comments section of
http://blogs.technet.com/mu/archive/...-shutdown.aspx

So much for "End to End Trust."

> ...The problem is I am often running my machine
> remotely, so I don't want to shut it down, I just want to install, or
> install and restart.

I understand. Then you should not approve the download of any updates
unless and until you're prepared to shutdown when any of the updates are
ready to be installed. Otherwise, you'll need to select the "Turn off..."
option when you're running remotely and don't want to install updates. Yes,
this sucks eggs big time!

>...And I'll say again, it
> does not prompt me to install immediately after I have downloaded them.

I hear you!

PS: Win7 users will NOT see this behavior.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
www.banthecheck.com


OCnStiggs wrote:
> Thanks for the attempted help.
>
> I'm NOT using automatic updates. I have it set to notify me so that I can
> do it manually. It prompts me that updates are available. I click on the
> shield icon and follow through and it downloads the updates. However,
> when
> its done, it does not give me a prompt to install the updates. After
> this,
> if I'm running my machine locally, on the shutdown menu I have the option
> to
> "Install the updates and shutdown", so it knows that they are there and
> ready to be installed. The problem is I am often running my machine
> remotely, so I don't want to shut it down, I just want to install, or
> install and restart. Usually after about two days, the shield icon will
> reappear and notify me that I have updates that have been downloaded and
> ask me if I would like to install them. So I'm trying to find out if
> there
> is a way to get the system to install the updates that I have just
> downloaded right after it finishes downloading them. And I'll say again,
> it
> does not prompt me to install immediately after I have downloaded them.
> The shield comes back and prompts me to install a couple of days after the
> download. If you still don't follow, look at the automatic updates
> dialog, I have the radio button selected for "Notify me but don't
> automatically download or install them."
>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>
>> Reference:
>>
>> Microsoft Update Product Team Blog: Update Notifications and
>> Install-at-Shutdown Behavior:
>> http://blogs.technet.com/mu/archive/...-shutdown.aspx
>>
>> With the Notify Only option enabled, you'll only see AU's "Updates are
>> ready to be installed" icon when all (not just some) of the updates
>> you've
>> approved have downloaded.
>>
>> In such cases, you may encounter an "Install updates and turn off
>> computer"
>> button when you go to shutdown. Using it will install the
>> already-downloaded updates but there's no way of knowing which updates
>> you're installing. MS is aware of this unwanted behavior.
>>
>> Absent any serious numerical Errors in your windowsupdate.log (cf.
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/902093), you may be seeing a delay caused
>> by excessive demand on the servers ("Update is not allowed to download
>> due
>> to regulation"). See...
>>
>> Updates are not downloaded or the “Automatic Updates� icon does not
>> display
>> the status of downloads when you enable the Automatic Updates service
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/910340
>>
>> You can install the updates via Windows/Microsoft Update website (WinXP)
>> or
>> by running Windows Update manually (Vista) instead: Understand that by
>> doing so, you're pushing all other Automatic Updates users further back
>> in
>> the queue (which may explain, at least in part, why Automatic Updates
>> hasn't brought them in for you yet).
>> --
>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
>> www.banthecheck.com
>>
>>
>> OCnStiggs wrote:
>>> My computer is using windows xp. I have it set to manually download
>>> updates. When I manually download updates, I am not given an option to
>>> install the updates other than "Install updates and shutdown", which I
>>> don't want to do. Is there any way to kick off the installation
>>> manually?
>>> I don't get any prompt or request to install at the time I download.
>>> The
>>> little icon in the taskbar usually shows up about 2 days after the
>>> download
>>> saying there are updates to install.

Thanks Shenan,

Could I still use the auto update utility to notify me and then go up to the
site to get the updates, or will the fact that I have it set to notify still
interfere?


"Shenan Stanley" wrote:

> OCnStiggs wrote:
> > My computer is using windows xp. I have it set to manually
> > download updates. When I manually download updates, I am not given
> > an option to install the updates other than "Install updates and
> > shutdown", which I don't want to do. Is there any way to kick off
> > the installation manually? I don't get any prompt or request to
> > install at the time I download. The little icon in the taskbar
> > usually shows up about 2 days after the download saying there are
> > updates to install.
>
> Take full control.
>
> Turn off Automatic Updates completely - do not even have it notify you.
> Periodically (at least after the second Tuesday of each month) visit
> http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/ and perform a custom scan and select and
> install updates - only do that when you are ready to install and restart the
> computer.
>
> Setup an email reminder or a calendar reminder or a scheduled task to remind
> you if you think you will forget for months at a time.
>
> --
> Shenan Stanley
> MS-MVP
> --
> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
>
>

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:


>
> > ...The problem is I am often running my machine
> > remotely, so I don't want to shut it down, I just want to install, or
> > install and restart.
>
> I understand. Then you should not approve the download of any updates
> unless and until you're prepared to shutdown when any of the updates are
> ready to be installed.

This IS what I'm currently doing. I was trying to find a way to improve on
things.

What I was hoping for was to just get an answer to the question I asked, I
will assume since I did not get a direct answer to my question, that the
answer to my question is "No, there is now way to manually install the
updates after they have been downloaded, when using the notify setting in the
AU tool."

I was hoping that maybe there was some utility that could be run manually to
kick of the install.

OCnStiggs wrote:
>>> ...The problem is I am often running my machine
>>> remotely, so I don't want to shut it down, I just want to install, or
>>> install and restart.
>>
>> I understand. Then you should not approve the download of any updates
>> unless and until you're prepared to shutdown when any of the updates are
>> ready to be installed.
>
> This IS what I'm currently doing. I was trying to find a way to improve
> on
> things.
>
> What I was hoping for was to just get an answer to the question I asked,
> I
> will assume since I did not get a direct answer to my question, that the
> answer to my question is "No, there is now way to manually install the
> updates after they have been downloaded, when using the notify setting in
> the AU tool."
>
> I was hoping that maybe there was some utility that could be run manually
> to
> kick of the install.

Start | Run | wuauclt | [OK]

NB: Windows Update Client *must* be able to communicate with the update
server to install an already-downloaded & approved update.

Otherwise, you'd have to download the installer from the Download Center or
MU Catalog to be able to install it manually (no, you can't use the
installer that AU downloaded).

OCnStiggs wrote:

>>> ...The problem is I am often running my machine
>>> remotely, so I don't want to shut it down, I just want to install, or
>>> install and restart.

>> I understand. Then you should not approve the download of any updates
>> unless and until you're prepared to shutdown when any of the updates are
>> ready to be installed.
>
> This IS what I'm currently doing. I was trying to find a way to improve on
> things.
>
> What I was hoping for was to just get an answer to the question I asked, I
> will assume since I did not get a direct answer to my question, that the
> answer to my question is "No, there is now way to manually install the
> updates after they have been downloaded, when using the notify setting in the
> AU tool."
>
> I was hoping that maybe there was some utility that could be run manually to
> kick of the install.

Actually, PA Bear's original suggestion will do just fine. Visit the Windows
Update or Microsoft Update web site. The updates that have already been
downloaded will not need to be downloaded again.

If the taskbar icon hasn't been shown to you, then there is at least one update
that hasn't been downloaded yet. (You can tell which ones are downloaded as
they will say zero bytes.) You can either download and install the extra ones
straight away or let them download automatically in due course.

Harry.