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Med
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      09-07-2008
Hi,

I set my logitech Setpint utility (for keyboard & mice) to "Run as
Administrator" for all users in startup folder, but it is still blocked by
windows defender after reboot, and I have to click and allow it again. How
can I prevent Windows Defender to block this every time I restart my PC?


System: Vista Business SP1



Regards

Med
 
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Phillips
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      09-08-2008
Setpoint Properties (on right-mouse click menu)/Security tab... elevate
permissions for Everyone.
Michael

"Med" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Hi,
>
> I set my logitech Setpint utility (for keyboard & mice) to "Run as
> Administrator" for all users in startup folder, but it is still blocked by
> windows defender after reboot, and I have to click and allow it again. How
> can I prevent Windows Defender to block this every time I restart my PC?
>
>
> System: Vista Business SP1
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Med


 
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Med
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      09-08-2008
Phillips,

Thanks for the reply, I assigned Full control to "Everyone" to setpoint.exe
file and the shortcut in startup folder, but Windows Defender still prevents
it from starting-up as administrator.


Regards


Med


"Phillips" <> wrote in message
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> Setpoint Properties (on right-mouse click menu)/Security tab... elevate
> permissions for Everyone.
> Michael
>
> "Med" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Hi,
>>
>> I set my logitech Setpint utility (for keyboard & mice) to "Run as
>> Administrator" for all users in startup folder, but it is still blocked
>> by windows defender after reboot, and I have to click and allow it again.
>> How can I prevent Windows Defender to block this every time I restart my
>> PC?
>>
>>
>> System: Vista Business SP1
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Med

>


 
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Mr. Arnold
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      09-08-2008
Med wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I set my logitech Setpint utility (for keyboard & mice) to "Run as
> Administrator" for all users in startup folder, but it is still blocked
> by windows defender after reboot, and I have to click and allow it
> again. How can I prevent Windows Defender to block this every time I
> restart my PC?
>
>
> System: Vista Business SP1
>


You have to tell Windows Defender that it's a program that needs to
start by going to Windows Defender's Software Explorer and set the
program's short-cut in WD as a Start-up All users application, you
browse to the short-cut and you *Allow*. If the program needs no
Administrator rights to start, then you don't set Run As Administrator
for the short-cut that makes it prompt for Administrator credentials.

Of course, you have to set Windows Defender's short-cut to Run As
Administrator by right-clicking the menu line short-cut that starts WD
and going to Properties/Advanced button, so that you have the privileges
to make the change.
 
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Brink
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      09-08-2008

Hello Med,

Since you have the startup program Run as administrator it will get
blocked like that from the Startup folder. Instead, you will need to
create a task for it Task Scheduler to run at startup to avoid being
blocked. Method Two under Option One in this tutorial will help show you
how to.

http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/79...e-disable.html

Hope this helps,
Shawn

Med;830764 Wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I set my logitech Setpint utility (for keyboard & mice) to "Run as
> Administrator" for all users in startup folder, but it is still blocked
> by
> windows defender after reboot, and I have to click and allow it again.
> How
> can I prevent Windows Defender to block this every time I restart my
> PC?
>
>
> System: Vista Business SP1
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Med



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them.*
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Not Even Me
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      09-08-2008
I have run into that several times, it irritates me every time I do it.
There is absolutely no reason for that type of incompetence when designing
an OS.
It's also one of the reasons Vista won't be making an appearance on my LAN
unless it is tiotally reworked to be functional. Maybe with SP 7...

"Brink" <> wrote in message
news:...
>
> Hello Med,
>
> Since you have the startup program Run as administrator it will get
> blocked like that from the Startup folder. Instead, you will need to
> create a task for it Task Scheduler to run at startup to avoid being
> blocked. Method Two under Option One in this tutorial will help show you
> how to.
>
> http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/79...e-disable.html
>
> Hope this helps,
> Shawn
>
> Med;830764 Wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I set my logitech Setpint utility (for keyboard & mice) to "Run as
>> Administrator" for all users in startup folder, but it is still blocked
>> by
>> windows defender after reboot, and I have to click and allow it again.
>> How
>> can I prevent Windows Defender to block this every time I restart my
>> PC?
>>
>>
>> System: Vista Business SP1
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Med

>
>
> --
> Brink
>
> *There are no dumb questions, just the people that do not ask
> them.*
> '*VISTA FORUMS*' > *Please post feedback to help others.*



 
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Rick Rogers
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      09-08-2008
Properly written applications do not require elevation of privilege to run
when following OS design specifications. Many however, still don't, but
that's not the OS's fault, the specifications have been out for many years.
To allow *anything* to run with elevation automatically from a startup
folder is opening a door to infection by malware. As Shawn has indicated,
the proper method of doing this is by creating a task.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

"Not Even Me" <> wrote in message
news:...
>I have run into that several times, it irritates me every time I do it.
> There is absolutely no reason for that type of incompetence when designing
> an OS.
> It's also one of the reasons Vista won't be making an appearance on my LAN
> unless it is tiotally reworked to be functional. Maybe with SP 7...
>
> "Brink" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>>
>> Hello Med,
>>
>> Since you have the startup program Run as administrator it will get
>> blocked like that from the Startup folder. Instead, you will need to
>> create a task for it Task Scheduler to run at startup to avoid being
>> blocked. Method Two under Option One in this tutorial will help show you
>> how to.
>>
>> http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/79...e-disable.html
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>> Shawn
>>
>> Med;830764 Wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I set my logitech Setpint utility (for keyboard & mice) to "Run as
>>> Administrator" for all users in startup folder, but it is still blocked
>>> by
>>> windows defender after reboot, and I have to click and allow it again.
>>> How
>>> can I prevent Windows Defender to block this every time I restart my
>>> PC?
>>>
>>>
>>> System: Vista Business SP1
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Med

>>
>>
>> --
>> Brink
>>
>> *There are no dumb questions, just the people that do not ask
>> them.*
>> '*VISTA FORUMS*' >> *Please post feedback to help others.*

>
>


 
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Med
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      09-08-2008
Hi Shawn,

Thanks for the suggestion.

When I googled this problem, I actually came across that URL you sent me,
but I overlooked it. I created a Task to launch Setpoint.exe "on logon",
via Trigger/Action, however it was failing to start. After spending
sometime on this, I realised that even though task was running using my
local account(administrator) it was failing to start, which I still don't
undrestand why. I changed it to "Administrators" in General>Security
options and it fixed it!


Thanks Again

Med


"Brink" <> wrote in message
news:...
>
> Hello Med,
>
> Since you have the startup program Run as administrator it will get
> blocked like that from the Startup folder. Instead, you will need to
> create a task for it Task Scheduler to run at startup to avoid being
> blocked. Method Two under Option One in this tutorial will help show you
> how to.
>
> http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/79...e-disable.html
>
> Hope this helps,
> Shawn
>
> Med;830764 Wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I set my logitech Setpint utility (for keyboard & mice) to "Run as
>> Administrator" for all users in startup folder, but it is still blocked
>> by
>> windows defender after reboot, and I have to click and allow it again.
>> How
>> can I prevent Windows Defender to block this every time I restart my
>> PC?
>>
>>
>> System: Vista Business SP1
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Med

>
>
> --
> Brink
>
> *There are no dumb questions, just the people that do not ask
> them.*
> '*VISTA FORUMS*' > *Please post feedback to help others.*


 
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Brink
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      09-08-2008

Med

I'm happy to hear that you got it to work for you now. Thank you fo
posting your results back with it to

Shaw

Med;831156 Wrote:
> Hi Shawn
>
> Thanks for the suggestion
>
> When I googled this problem, I actually came across that URL you sen
> me
> but I overlooked it. I created a Task to launch Setpoint.exe "o
> logon"
> via Trigger/Action, however it was failing to start. After spendin
> sometime on this, I realised that even though task was running using m
> local account(administrator) it was failing to start, which I stil
> don'
> undrestand why. I changed it to "Administrators" in General>Securit
> options and it fixed it
>
>
> Thanks Agai
>
> Me
>
>
> "Brink" <> wrote in messag
> news:...> > >
> >
> > > Hello Med

> >
> > > Since you have the startup program Run as administrator it will ge
> > > blocked like that from the Startup folder. Instead, you will need t
> > > create a task for it Task Scheduler to run at startup to avoid bein
> > > blocked. Method Two under Option One in this tutorial will help sho

> > yo
> > > how to

> >
> >
> > http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/79...le-disable.htm
> >
> > > Hope this helps
> > > Shaw

> >
> > > Med;830764 Wrote:> > > > >
> > > >> Hi
> > > >
> > > >> I set my logitech Setpint utility (for keyboard & mice) to "Run a
> > > >> Administrator" for all users in startup folder, but it is stil
> > > blocke
> > > >> b
> > > >> windows defender after reboot, and I have to click and allow i
> > > again
> > > >> Ho
> > > >> can I prevent Windows Defender to block this every time I restart m
> > > >> PC
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> System: Vista Business SP
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> Regard
> > > >
> > > >> Med> > > >

> >
> >
> > > -
> > > Brin

> >
> > > *There are no dumb questions, just the people that do not as
> > > them.
> > > '*VISTA FORUMS*' (http://www.vistax64.com
> > > *Please post feedback to help others.* >


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Not Even Me
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      09-09-2008
But if you must manually give the program elevation the first time (or
manually set the shortcut in startup with the proper permissions) it should
run without further interference.
I consider any other behavior to be a defect.

"Rick Rogers" <> wrote in message
news:%...
> Properly written applications do not require elevation of privilege to run
> when following OS design specifications. Many however, still don't, but
> that's not the OS's fault, the specifications have been out for many
> years. To allow *anything* to run with elevation automatically from a
> startup folder is opening a door to infection by malware. As Shawn has
> indicated, the proper method of doing this is by creating a task.
>
> --
> Best of Luck,
>
> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
>
> "Not Even Me" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>>I have run into that several times, it irritates me every time I do it.
>> There is absolutely no reason for that type of incompetence when
>> designing an OS.
>> It's also one of the reasons Vista won't be making an appearance on my
>> LAN unless it is tiotally reworked to be functional. Maybe with SP 7...
>>
>> "Brink" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>>
>>> Hello Med,
>>>
>>> Since you have the startup program Run as administrator it will get
>>> blocked like that from the Startup folder. Instead, you will need to
>>> create a task for it Task Scheduler to run at startup to avoid being
>>> blocked. Method Two under Option One in this tutorial will help show you
>>> how to.
>>>
>>> http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/79...e-disable.html
>>>
>>> Hope this helps,
>>> Shawn
>>>
>>> Med;830764 Wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I set my logitech Setpint utility (for keyboard & mice) to "Run as
>>>> Administrator" for all users in startup folder, but it is still blocked
>>>> by
>>>> windows defender after reboot, and I have to click and allow it again.
>>>> How
>>>> can I prevent Windows Defender to block this every time I restart my
>>>> PC?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> System: Vista Business SP1
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> Med
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Brink
>>>
>>> *There are no dumb questions, just the people that do not ask
>>> them.*
>>> '*VISTA FORUMS*' >>> *Please post feedback to help others.*

>>
>>

>



 
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