ARTCLE= If You Think SP1 Fixed Windows Vista, Think Again

I have been vindicated once more!


http://keznews.com/4189_If_You_Think...a,_Think_Again

If you think that the first service pack for Windows Vista has managed to
fix what was broken with the latest Windows client, think again.

The same problems that were initially associated with the gold version of
Vista have survived and moved on as the legacy of SP1. At the end of its
first year of availability on the market, Vista had passed the 100 million
sold license milestone, and according to Steve Ballmer, Microsoft Chief
Executive Officer, present at MIX08 the past week, the platform is the
second most popular Windows operating system in the world, despite its long
line of problems.

"I'm not saying that there aren't things that customers choose to comment
on. Come on, the number one issue we've had customers have issues on were
application compatibility and driver compatibility. We made a very concrete
set of choices in order to enhance the security, Vista is a very secure
system. We've had very little issue of that kind. It's the most secure
client operating system out there. But we did have it we did make the choice
to kind of hurt compatibility and our customers have let us know that that
has been very painful," Ballmer stated.

Still, the promise was that with Windows Vista SP1, Microsoft would soften
all the rough edges of the operating system. But just like the gold version
of Vista, the RTM build of Vista SP1 experienced integration issues with
existent hardware drivers, a detail that led to the postponing of SP1's
general availability until mid-March.

"A couple of things have happened, a lot of the apps have now been upgraded
to be compatible, and the drivers have been upgraded. We've shipped our
first service pack, Service Pack 1, which allows us to factor in a lot of
the quality and other suggestions that people have made, and I think we're
starting to see more uptake now in the business market, and Vista continues
to sell quite strongly in the consumer market," Ballmer added.

But not only is Vista SP1 not resolving the driver incompatibility issues of
Vista, but it is introducing new ones. Microsoft warned on March 12, that in
certain scenarios, following the deployment of Vista SP1, end users might
experience sound problems.

The company enumerated the issues starting with the fact that: "no sound is
produced when you play audio files or run programs that have an audio
component. The speaker symbol next to the clock in the notification area may
display the following message: 'No Audio Output Device is installed.' The
Sound Controller in Device Manager displays a yellow exclamation point."

The glitch is entirely the fault of Vista SP1. What the service pack does is
to update system files upon installation and inbox device drivers are
refreshed in an effort to evolve device reliability. This is done via the
redeployment of device drivers at the very end of Vista SP1's installation.
But this specific step could fail and result in no new drivers being
installed.

Microsoft advices end users to first restart the Windows Vista SP1 machine,
then unplug and plug back in the speakers, as well as verifying the default
output device. If these steps fail, then users should check to see if the
audio device driver exists, and either perform an installation or an update.

On the Bridge! wrote:

> I have been vindicated once more!

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Vindicated from what?
The fact that you're an idiot who also just happens to be a moron?
I don't think so.
Try reading the article bozo.
Now tells us exactly which driver incompatibility your one little
install of Vista suffers from, ok?
NO LYING ALLOWED...LOL!!!
Frank

This is a forum where people come to ask questions about problems the
are having so that they can be resolved. The absolute last thing we nee
here is people that do nothing but confuse the issue

Don't you have anything better to do other than echoing second-han
information? Where is the original Microsoft-posted article that say
sound will stop working after installing Vista SP1

--
dzomlij

____________________
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you die, so shall I be Reborn...

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went south thanks to mother nature and a lightning bolt to the main
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>NO LYING ALLOWED...LOL!!!

then you wont have anything to say anymore franky poo... lol

>The fact that you're an idiot who also just >happens to be a moron?

Ahh frank is back to insult mode...
How quaint....


"Frank" <> wrote in message
news:...
> On the Bridge! wrote:
>
>> I have been vindicated once more!
>
> -----------------------------------
>
> Vindicated from what?
> The fact that you're an idiot who also just happens to be a moron?
> I don't think so.
> Try reading the article bozo.
> Now tells us exactly which driver incompatibility your one little install
> of Vista suffers from, ok?
> NO LYING ALLOWED...LOL!!!
> Frank

"dzomlija" <> wrote in message
news:...
>
> This is a forum where people come to ask questions about problems they
> are having so that they can be resolved. The absolute last thing we need
> here is people that do nothing but confuse the issue.
>
> Don't you have anything better to do other than echoing second-hand
> information? Where is the original Microsoft-posted article that says
> sound will stop working after installing Vista SP1?
>

Why its right here!

After you install Windows Vista Service Pack 1 (SP1), you may experience one
or more of the following problems with sound:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/948481

Mike

--
> dzomlija
>
> _____________________
> Peter Alexander Dzomlija
> -Do you hear, huh? The Alpha and The Omega? Death and Rebirth? And as
> you die, so shall I be Reborn...-
>
> :cry:-U--nfortunately, my rig (As seen in
> http://www.vistax64.com/general-disc...tml#post533290)
> went south thanks to mother nature and a lightning bolt to the mains
> supply that my UPS could not stop. Now I'm just waiting for the
> insurance payout, so I can build a new machine.-'
> ' (http://s229.photobucket.com/albums/e...zomlija/Venus/)

On the Bridge! wrote:

>>NO LYING ALLOWED...LOL!!!
>
>
> then you wont have anything to say anymore franky poo... lol
>
>
>>The fact that you're an idiot who also just >happens to be a moron?
>
>
> Ahh frank is back to insult mode...
> How quaint....

So you can't answer the question huh?
You're pathetic! You know nothing. You're an attention starved bandwidth
sucking weakling.
Grow up!
Enough!
We're all sick of your diatribe bullsh*t!
Got it?
Frank

See, that wasn't so hard, was it? Backing up a claim with facts from a
legitimate, reputable source.

But quoting directly from the KB Article:

> Some older drivers may experience an installation failure because of
> this process.Older drivers. -Older Drivers-. Isn't the possible failure then NOT the
fault of SP1, but of the user who has neglected to keep his/her drivers
up-to-date in the first place?


--
dzomlija

_____________________
Peter Alexander Dzomlija
-Do you hear, huh? The Alpha and The Omega? Death and Rebirth? And as
you die, so shall I be Reborn...-

:cry:-U--nfortunately, my rig (As seen in
http://www.vistax64.com/general-disc...tml#post533290)
went south thanks to mother nature and a lightning bolt to the mains
supply that my UPS could not stop. Now I'm just waiting for the
insurance payout, so I can build a new machine.-'
' (http://s229.photobucket.com/albums/e...zomlija/Venus/)

Nah.. wrong again. This is not a forum. Its a newsgroup.
If you are getting these messages via a forum or the microsoft web interface
that is only
a secondary way to view the real contents of this newsgroup. The normal way
is through a newsreader.
And anyone is free to come and express their opinion about vista.
This is good. People who come here get to see all aspects of vista, and not
only the sugar coated hype.

I dont see why you wont want the truth to come out. I think that knowing the
truth is more important for users
than to solve a single problem they may have. But I do help them with those
very often too.

If you dont like this way that newgroups function, I suggest you join or
create your own moderated forum.


Have a good day.



"dzomlija" <> wrote in message
news:...
>
> This is a forum where people come to ask questions about problems they
> are having so that they can be resolved. The absolute last thing we need
> here is people that do nothing but confuse the issue.
>
> Don't you have anything better to do other than echoing second-hand
> information? Where is the original Microsoft-posted article that says
> sound will stop working after installing Vista SP1?
>
>
> --
> dzomlija
>
> _____________________
> Peter Alexander Dzomlija
> -Do you hear, huh? The Alpha and The Omega? Death and Rebirth? And as
> you die, so shall I be Reborn...-
>
> :cry:-U--nfortunately, my rig (As seen in
> http://www.vistax64.com/general-disc...tml#post533290)
> went south thanks to mother nature and a lightning bolt to the mains
> supply that my UPS could not stop. Now I'm just waiting for the
> insurance payout, so I can build a new machine.-'
> ' (http://s229.photobucket.com/albums/e...zomlija/Venus/)

Frank you may want to lure me into one of your ongoing fights.. and insult
throwing sprees...
It wont work with me...
If you dont want to read my posts please just block me, because you know I
wont stop & ill just ignore you.. lol

> You're pathetic! You know nothing. You're an attention starved bandwidth
> sucking weakling.

Actually no. I just post news that may interest people who like getting a
global view of vista. I can depend on you
showing the good parts of vista... keep telling them those. And I will show
the other side whenever I stuble upon an article.

I see no problem with that. There are 2 sides of the coin always...

there is a fundemental law in nature called duality.

On the other hand I will keep giving my support and help to people with
vista problems, as I did for many years with XP.

I may post critical news about vista, but I also give a helping hand to
people in need, because those are who I care about.

When was the last time you helped someone in here Franky poo?

I suggest you clean up your act, wash your mouth with soap, sober up, take
your meds,
and help some people instead of insulting everyone you dislike.

Now THAT is totally wasted time ....



"Frank" <> wrote in message
news:...
> On the Bridge! wrote:
>
>>>NO LYING ALLOWED...LOL!!!
>>
>>
>> then you wont have anything to say anymore franky poo... lol
>>
>>
>>>The fact that you're an idiot who also just >happens to be a moron?
>>
>>
>> Ahh frank is back to insult mode...
>> How quaint....
>
> So you can't answer the question huh?
> You're pathetic! You know nothing. You're an attention starved bandwidth
> sucking weakling.
> Grow up!
> Enough!
> We're all sick of your diatribe bullsh*t!
> Got it?
> Frank

On the Bridge!;646211 Wrote:
> Nah.. wrong again. This is not a forum. Its a newsgroup. If you are
> getting these messages via a forum or the microsoft web interface that
> is only a secondary way to view the real contents of this newsgroup. The
> normal way is through a newsreader.
> And anyone is free to come and express their opinion about vista.
> This is good. People who come here get to see all aspects of vista, and
> not
> only the sugar coated hype.
>
> I dont see why you wont want the truth to come out. I think that
> knowing the truth is more important for users than to solve a single
> problem they may have. But I do help them with those very often too.
>
> If you dont like this way that newgroups function, I suggest you join
> or
> create your own moderated forum.
>
>
> Have a good day.


Actually, I am a moderator on www.vistax64.com

And it's not that I don't want the truth to come out - it's that I want
all claims of any kind to be backed up with facts sourced from reputable
sources. I never even heard of KezNews until your post linked to an
article of theirs, so they in my book are not a reliable source. Another
poster (MikeP) had the right idea here by providing a link to the
Microsoft KB article that mentions the possible issue with sound after
SP1 is installed. That is a reliable source then.

We live in a skeptical world, and nothing should be taken on faith
anymore. Nothing.


--
dzomlija

_____________________
Peter Alexander Dzomlija
-Do you hear, huh? The Alpha and The Omega? Death and Rebirth? And as
you die, so shall I be Reborn...-

:cry:-U--nfortunately, my rig (As seen in
http://www.vistax64.com/general-disc...tml#post533290)
went south thanks to mother nature and a lightning bolt to the mains
supply that my UPS could not stop. Now I'm just waiting for the
insurance payout, so I can build a new machine.-'
' (http://s229.photobucket.com/albums/e...zomlija/Venus/)