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I just got this in from TechRepublic, this is going to affect all Windows
users, I think.
http://news.com.com/2100-7350_3-6205...ml?tag=nl.e019.

Do you think this is the cause of all the problems that are occurring with
the updates.
I have been using Microsoft Baseline Sercurity Analzyer 2.0 to update my
computer and I am not having any trouble with doing it that way. But IE7
still freezes up when I am browsing the web.
I got a reply from support yesterday, and done all the steps to correct the
problem that we are all having and could not fix the problem and then today
this article came. What's up with this?
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gerry1

gerry1 wrote:
> I just got this in from TechRepublic, this is going to affect all
> Windows users, I think.
> http://news.com.com/2100-7350_3-6205...ml?tag=nl.e019.
>
> Do you think this is the cause of all the problems that are
> occurring with the updates.

No.

> I have been using Microsoft Baseline Sercurity Analzyer 2.0 to
> update my computer and I am not having any trouble with doing it
> that way.

Okay. That's fine.

> But IE7 still freezes up when I am browsing the web.
> I got a reply from support yesterday, and done all the steps to
> correct the problem that we are all having and could not fix the
> problem and then today this article came. What's up with this?

Unrelated. You are looking for relationships that do not exist.

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How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

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gerry1
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"Shenan Stanley" wrote:

> gerry1 wrote:
> > I just got this in from TechRepublic, this is going to affect all
> > Windows users, I think.
> > http://news.com.com/2100-7350_3-6205...ml?tag=nl.e019.
> >
> > Do you think this is the cause of all the problems that are
> > occurring with the updates.
>
> No.
>
> > I have been using Microsoft Baseline Sercurity Analzyer 2.0 to
> > update my computer and I am not having any trouble with doing it
> > that way.
>
> Okay. That's fine.
>
> > But IE7 still freezes up when I am browsing the web.
> > I got a reply from support yesterday, and done all the steps to
> > correct the problem that we are all having and could not fix the
> > problem and then today this article came. What's up with this?
>
> Unrelated. You are looking for relationships that do not exist.
>
> --
> Shenan Stanley
> MS-MVP
> --
> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
>
>
Do you think there is some sort of virus going around with so many of us
having the same identical problem. Mine started last week with SP2 being
completely deleted and not working, but still showing up in the add & remove
section, I deleted it and inserted the CD and re-installed it and got
everything back to working and to my surprise the automatic updates quick
working.
I get the error number: 0x80070020 when I go to the update page.
Support wrote that the Windows Update Services are corrupted, and gave me
some steps to follow: 1 Disable all third party software 2 make sure
automatic update is started with Automatic Start. 3. make sure BITs is
started with Automatic Start. Next Run the SFC with the command SFC
/purgecache and SFC /scannow, which I done all of that to only have the same
problem. Then after doing all of that they asked me for my MSINFO32 file and
WindowsUpdate.log to see what the problem maybe.
I haven't heard back from them since sending them the files this morning.
So what do you think is the problem that we are having.

gerry1 wrote:
> I just got this in from TechRepublic, this is going to affect all
> Windows users, I think.
> http://news.com.com/2100-7350_3-6205...ml?tag=nl.e019.
>
> Do you think this is the cause of all the problems that are
> occurring with the updates.

Shenan wrote:
> No.

gerry1 wrote:
> I have been using Microsoft Baseline Sercurity Analzyer 2.0 to
> update my computer and I am not having any trouble with doing it
> that way.

Shenan wrote:
> Okay. That's fine.

gerry1 wrote:
> But IE7 still freezes up when I am browsing the web.
> I got a reply from support yesterday, and done all the steps to
> correct the problem that we are all having and could not fix the
> problem and then today this article came. What's up with this?

Shenan wrote:
> Unrelated. You are looking for relationships that do not exist.

gerry1 wrote:
> Do you think there is some sort of virus going around with so many
> of us having the same identical problem. Mine started last week
> with SP2 being completely deleted and not working, but still
> showing up in the add & remove section, I deleted it and inserted
> the CD and re-installed it and got everything back to working and
> to my surprise the automatic updates quick working.
> I get the error number: 0x80070020 when I go to the update page.
> Support wrote that the Windows Update Services are corrupted, and
> gave me some steps to follow: 1 Disable all third party software 2
> make sure automatic update is started with Automatic Start. 3. make
> sure BITs is started with Automatic Start. Next Run the SFC with
> the command SFC /purgecache and SFC /scannow, which I done all of
> that to only have the same problem. Then after doing all of that
> they asked me for my MSINFO32 file and WindowsUpdate.log to see
> what the problem maybe.
> I haven't heard back from them since sending them the files this
> morning. So what do you think is the problem that we are having.

Can you quantify 'so many of us'?

Got Spybot Search and Destroy installed?

http://groups.google.com/group/micro...940f7c20?hl=en

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

--
gerry1
No Shenan Stanley,
I cannot quantify so many of us, but you have put me
in quandary as to what the problem that so many of
us are here looking for the answer that will fix this.

As for the quantitative of this, why are we all talking about
the same problem?
I did have Spybot Search and Destroy installed until I got
the email from support, and removed it. It did not change
a thing.
It seems that you have the answer to this, if so please share it!
We will so much appreciate having it. Help us out! I won't be
mad at you.
By the way Windows Defender and Live OneCare is updating fine,
but the other problems still exist.



"Shenan Stanley" wrote:

> gerry1 wrote:
> > I just got this in from TechRepublic, this is going to affect all
> > Windows users, I think.
> > http://news.com.com/2100-7350_3-6205...ml?tag=nl.e019.
> >
> > Do you think this is the cause of all the problems that are
> > occurring with the updates.
>
> Shenan wrote:
> > No.
>
> gerry1 wrote:
> > I have been using Microsoft Baseline Sercurity Analzyer 2.0 to
> > update my computer and I am not having any trouble with doing it
> > that way.
>
> Shenan wrote:
> > Okay. That's fine.
>
> gerry1 wrote:
> > But IE7 still freezes up when I am browsing the web.
> > I got a reply from support yesterday, and done all the steps to
> > correct the problem that we are all having and could not fix the
> > problem and then today this article came. What's up with this?
>
> Shenan wrote:
> > Unrelated. You are looking for relationships that do not exist.
>
> gerry1 wrote:
> > Do you think there is some sort of virus going around with so many
> > of us having the same identical problem. Mine started last week
> > with SP2 being completely deleted and not working, but still
> > showing up in the add & remove section, I deleted it and inserted
> > the CD and re-installed it and got everything back to working and
> > to my surprise the automatic updates quick working.
> > I get the error number: 0x80070020 when I go to the update page.
> > Support wrote that the Windows Update Services are corrupted, and
> > gave me some steps to follow: 1 Disable all third party software 2
> > make sure automatic update is started with Automatic Start. 3. make
> > sure BITs is started with Automatic Start. Next Run the SFC with
> > the command SFC /purgecache and SFC /scannow, which I done all of
> > that to only have the same problem. Then after doing all of that
> > they asked me for my MSINFO32 file and WindowsUpdate.log to see
> > what the problem maybe.
> > I haven't heard back from them since sending them the files this
> > morning. So what do you think is the problem that we are having.
>
> Can you quantify 'so many of us'?
>
> Got Spybot Search and Destroy installed?
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/micro...940f7c20?hl=en
>
> --
> Shenan Stanley
> MS-MVP
> --
> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
>
>

--
gerry1



"Shenan Stanley" wrote:

> gerry1 wrote:
> > I just got this in from TechRepublic, this is going to affect all
> > Windows users, I think.
> > http://news.com.com/2100-7350_3-6205...ml?tag=nl.e019.
> >
> > Do you think this is the cause of all the problems that are
> > occurring with the updates.
>
> Shenan wrote:
> > No.
>
> gerry1 wrote:
> > I have been using Microsoft Baseline Sercurity Analzyer 2.0 to
> > update my computer and I am not having any trouble with doing it
> > that way.
>
> Shenan wrote:
> > Okay. That's fine.
>
> gerry1 wrote:
> > But IE7 still freezes up when I am browsing the web.
> > I got a reply from support yesterday, and done all the steps to
> > correct the problem that we are all having and could not fix the
> > problem and then today this article came. What's up with this?
>
> Shenan wrote:
> > Unrelated. You are looking for relationships that do not exist.
>
> gerry1 wrote:
> > Do you think there is some sort of virus going around with so many
> > of us having the same identical problem. Mine started last week
> > with SP2 being completely deleted and not working, but still
> > showing up in the add & remove section, I deleted it and inserted
> > the CD and re-installed it and got everything back to working and
> > to my surprise the automatic updates quick working.
> > I get the error number: 0x80070020 when I go to the update page.
> > Support wrote that the Windows Update Services are corrupted, and
> > gave me some steps to follow: 1 Disable all third party software 2
> > make sure automatic update is started with Automatic Start. 3. make
> > sure BITs is started with Automatic Start. Next Run the SFC with
> > the command SFC /purgecache and SFC /scannow, which I done all of
> > that to only have the same problem. Then after doing all of that
> > they asked me for my MSINFO32 file and WindowsUpdate.log to see
> > what the problem maybe.
> > I haven't heard back from them since sending them the files this
> > morning. So what do you think is the problem that we are having.
>
> Can you quantify 'so many of us'?
> No I cannot quantify so many of us.
> Got Spybot Search and Destroy installed?
> Uninstalled it and still have the same problem.
Checked out the link below and it does nothing to
fix the problem.

Now you have put me in quandary even more, as to the quantitative.
If you have the answer, share it!
> http://groups.google.com/group/micro...940f7c20?hl=en
>
> --
> Shenan Stanley
> MS-MVP
> --
> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
>
>

gerry1 wrote:
> I just got this in from TechRepublic, this is going to affect all
> Windows users, I think.
> http://news.com.com/2100-7350_3-6205...ml?tag=nl.e019.
>
> Do you think this is the cause of all the problems that are
> occurring with the updates.

Shenan wrote:
> No.

gerry1 wrote:
> I have been using Microsoft Baseline Sercurity Analzyer 2.0 to
> update my computer and I am not having any trouble with doing it
> that way.

Shenan wrote:
> Okay. That's fine.

gerry1 wrote:
> But IE7 still freezes up when I am browsing the web.
> I got a reply from support yesterday, and done all the steps to
> correct the problem that we are all having and could not fix the
> problem and then today this article came. What's up with this?

Shenan wrote:
> Unrelated. You are looking for relationships that do not exist.

gerry1 wrote:
> Do you think there is some sort of virus going around with so many
> of us having the same identical problem. Mine started last week
> with SP2 being completely deleted and not working, but still
> showing up in the add & remove section, I deleted it and inserted
> the CD and re-installed it and got everything back to working and
> to my surprise the automatic updates quick working.
> I get the error number: 0x80070020 when I go to the update page.
> Support wrote that the Windows Update Services are corrupted, and
> gave me some steps to follow: 1 Disable all third party software 2
> make sure automatic update is started with Automatic Start. 3. make
> sure BITs is started with Automatic Start. Next Run the SFC with
> the command SFC /purgecache and SFC /scannow, which I done all of
> that to only have the same problem. Then after doing all of that
> they asked me for my MSINFO32 file and WindowsUpdate.log to see
> what the problem maybe.
> I haven't heard back from them since sending them the files this
> morning. So what do you think is the problem that we are having.

Shenan Stanley wrote:
> Can you quantify 'so many of us'?
>
> Got Spybot Search and Destroy installed?
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/micro...940f7c20?hl=en

gerry1 wrote:
> No Shenan Stanley,
> I cannot quantify so many of us, but you have put me
> in quandary as to what the problem that so many of
> us are here looking for the answer that will fix this.

That's the problem - I don't believe there are that 'many of' you... with
the same problem. Yours is unique because you reinstalled SP2. Others will
be unique because they performed a full repair installa. Others will be
unique because they performed a clean installa dnafter they installed SP2
they have 76+ updates they cannot install.

> As for the quantitative of this, why are we all talking about
> the same problem?

Who know - likely not. However - a simple search for similar problems
*might* lead to an answer,

> I did have Spybot Search and Destroy installed until I got
> the email from support, and removed it. It did not change
> a thing.

The email told you to remove it? I thought it told you to 'disable all
third party software', not uninstall. ;-)

> It seems that you have the answer to this, if so please share it!
> We will so much appreciate having it. Help us out! I won't be
> mad at you.

Why would you be mad at you at all for trying to help you?

> By the way Windows Defender and Live OneCare is updating fine,
> but the other problems still exist.

Just because they are made by Microsoft does not mean they share the same
mechanisms for updating. And in this case - I would conside them as much
'third party software' as anything else.

Try this:

Get Dial-a-Fix:
http://wiki.djlizard.net/Dial-a-fix

Use its options to fix:
- Windows Installer
- Windows Update
- All the Registration Center options.

Turn off the "Empty System32\Catroot 2"
Do NOT do "Flush SoftwareDistribution".

Then click "GO" and wait until it is done... Reboot may be needed.

- Download/Install Windows Update v3.
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=91237
(You may need to install it using the command line switch "/wuforce" right
after an additional reboot - immediately after logging in.)

- Download/Install the 927891 patch.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...9-404327772E5A

- Reboot.

- Visit http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/ and scan for/install updates.

- Come back and let us know how things went!

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

Did you Disable Spybot's TeaTimer prior to uninstalling it ? If not, the
'protection' that Spybot provided may still be present, eg. the Default
security setting for a registry hive were altered by Spybot and are
still in that state.

Solving setup errors by using the SubInACL tool to repair file and
registry permissions
http://blogs.msdn.com/astebner/archi...04/739820.aspx

That blog article describes the scenario. IF this is the case, Spybot's
'protection' was not Disabled prior to uninstaling it, the quickest way
to resolve this would be to reinstall Spybot, disable TeaTimer AND
SDHelper [ Mode > Advanced Mode; Resident > UNcheck the boxes next for
both ], then uninstall Spybot.

MowGreen [MVP 2003-2007]
===============
*-343-* FDNY
Never Forgotten
===============

I disabled it Spybot as the support email instructed me to first, followed
all the
instructions to the letter.

Then and only then did I uninstall Spybot.
I completed each step as instructed in the email and it still has not solved
the problem.

I never used TeaTimer as I don't like the way it worked from the first time
I used it.
I don't want to loose some of the work I am doing so I elected not to do a
fresh install of the OS just now.
I am going over the last thing I was doing when this all started.

In fact this is what happened, I was reading some email from Kevin Yank
about PHP
in Windows Live Desktop Mail when the red shield jumped up in the task bar
saying
this version of Windows is not supported, advising me to update to SP2.
Which I already had.
After checking the Add and Remove program it was still there, but not
working. So I done a system repair, removed the old copy of SP2 and put in
the SP2 CD reinstalled it, and all the updates were working again.
Whatever happened seems to have happened to a lot of us, by reading the post
here I see that some are saying the same thing that I am experencing but did
not include in my post.

So before I push the panic button and do a fresh install that would take me
a week to get back to where I am, I elected to look for a solution to fix the
problem. But it don't look like I will find it here, as I have already been
to most of the places and done most of the suggestions that I have read.
Nothing has worked as of yet.
But I do want to thank everyone for their help in this matter.

I read all of the information that I could find before I even posted here.
--
gerry1



"MowGreen [MVP]" wrote:

> Did you Disable Spybot's TeaTimer prior to uninstalling it ? If not, the
> 'protection' that Spybot provided may still be present, eg. the Default
> security setting for a registry hive were altered by Spybot and are
> still in that state.
>
> Solving setup errors by using the SubInACL tool to repair file and
> registry permissions
> http://blogs.msdn.com/astebner/archi...04/739820.aspx
>
> That blog article describes the scenario. IF this is the case, Spybot's
> 'protection' was not Disabled prior to uninstaling it, the quickest way
> to resolve this would be to reinstall Spybot, disable TeaTimer AND
> SDHelper [ Mode > Advanced Mode; Resident > UNcheck the boxes next for
> both ], then uninstall Spybot.
>
> MowGreen [MVP 2003-2007]
> ===============
> *-343-* FDNY
> Never Forgotten
> ===============
>

To clarify this thread, the issue is that IE7 freezes on the web, correct ?
The system can NOT update successfully, correct ?
You installed SP2, 'something' removed it, but it's still listed in
Add/Remove Programs, and can be uninstalled, correct ?

What is the installed antivirus software and was it actively monitoring
the system when SP2 and IE7 were installed ?


MowGreen [MVP 2003-2007]
===============
*-343-* FDNY
Never Forgotten
===============


gerry1 wrote:

> I disabled it Spybot as the support email instructed me to first, followed
> all the
> instructions to the letter.
>
> Then and only then did I uninstall Spybot.
> I completed each step as instructed in the email and it still has not solved
> the problem.
>
> I never used TeaTimer as I don't like the way it worked from the first time
> I used it.
> I don't want to loose some of the work I am doing so I elected not to do a
> fresh install of the OS just now.
> I am going over the last thing I was doing when this all started.
>
> In fact this is what happened, I was reading some email from Kevin Yank
> about PHP
> in Windows Live Desktop Mail when the red shield jumped up in the task bar
> saying
> this version of Windows is not supported, advising me to update to SP2.
> Which I already had.
> After checking the Add and Remove program it was still there, but not
> working. So I done a system repair, removed the old copy of SP2 and put in
> the SP2 CD reinstalled it, and all the updates were working again.
> Whatever happened seems to have happened to a lot of us, by reading the post
> here I see that some are saying the same thing that I am experencing but did
> not include in my post.
>
> So before I push the panic button and do a fresh install that would take me
> a week to get back to where I am, I elected to look for a solution to fix the
> problem. But it don't look like I will find it here, as I have already been
> to most of the places and done most of the suggestions that I have read.
> Nothing has worked as of yet.
> But I do want to thank everyone for their help in this matter.
>
> I read all of the information that I could find before I even posted here.