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antioch
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      08-15-2007
The yellow shield popped up this evening and offered one update - KB933566,
which was one I installed with success last month?
After scanning, MS Home gives me 9, but not the one offered via the shield,
plus a Roots Cert update.
I can see that this shield is going to stay with me - so should I delete
last months install and do it again?

Rgds
Antioch




 
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Ottmar Freudenberger
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      08-15-2007
"antioch" <> schrieb:

> The yellow shield popped up this evening and offered one update - KB933566,
> which was one I installed with success last month?


Are you sure about the KB number? KB933566 has been the Cumulative
Update for IE released via WU/MU/AU on June 12th 2007. It has been
superseded by KB937143 (MS07-045) yesterday. Whichever Windows version
you're using, http://support.microsoft.com/kb/933700/en-us isn't the
fact on your system, is it?

> After scanning, MS Home gives me 9, but not the one offered via the shield,
> plus a Roots Cert update.


AutoUpdate sometimes needs some time before showing up the relevant
updates released on Patch Day.

Bye,
Freudi
 
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antioch
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      08-15-2007

"Ottmar Freudenberger" <> wrote in message
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> "antioch" <> schrieb:
>
>> The yellow shield popped up this evening and offered one update -
>> KB933566,
>> which was one I installed with success last month?


> Are you sure about the KB number? KB933566 has been the Cumulative
> Update for IE released via WU/MU/AU on June 12th 2007. It has been
> superseded by KB937143 (MS07-045) yesterday. Whichever Windows version
> you're using, http://support.microsoft.com/kb/933700/en-us isn't the
> fact on your system, is it?


Yes - got the right number but wrong month - it was June.
I have IE 6.

>> After scanning, MS Home gives me 9, but not the one offered via the
>> shield,
>> plus a Roots Cert update.

>
> AutoUpdate sometimes needs some time before showing up the relevant
> updates released on Patch Day.


The yellow shield is still showing that same 933566 :-(
In any case I download from MS Download Center and save to disc.
Find this a more reliable way.
I will see what happens to the shield after I have updated.

Thank you Freudi
Rgds
Antioch


 
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Robert Aldwinckle
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      08-15-2007
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> The yellow shield popped up this evening and offered one update - KB933566,
> which was one I installed with success last month?



Have you rebooted since then? Do you have anything running at boot time
which might inhibit the module renaming that an update might need to do
to be completed?

Check in Event Viewer (System log) to find everything related to that update.
Unfortunately it doesn't specify which modules that require booting to finish.
(You can get that information from the update's log, at least from its verbose log.)

Before booting check the PendingFileRenameOperations value
to see if any module renaming is going to be needed.
Check the modules involved and their versions.
(Tip: use filever.exe from the XP Support Tools as a convenient way
to do that.)


> After scanning, MS Home gives me 9, but not the one offered via the shield,
> plus a Roots Cert update.



Perhaps it was superseded by newer update(s) to the same module(s)?


> I can see that this shield is going to stay with me - so should I delete
> last months install and do it again?



Did a superseding update get successfully done (post-boot?)
Then any reference to the superseded one should be deleted after that.
So, why is the shield staying? Because of a superseding one which also
can't be completed during the boot or something else?


HTH

Robert Aldwinckle
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      08-15-2007

"Robert Aldwinckle" <> wrote in message
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> "antioch" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> The yellow shield popped up this evening and offered one update -
>> KB933566,
>> which was one I installed with success last month?

>
>
> Have you rebooted since then? Do you have anything running at boot time
> which might inhibit the module renaming that an update might need to do
> to be completed?
>
> Check in Event Viewer (System log) to find everything related to that
> update.
> Unfortunately it doesn't specify which modules that require booting to
> finish.
> (You can get that information from the update's log, at least from its
> verbose log.)
>
> Before booting check the PendingFileRenameOperations value
> to see if any module renaming is going to be needed.
> Check the modules involved and their versions.
> (Tip: use filever.exe from the XP Support Tools as a convenient way
> to do that.)
>
>
>> After scanning, MS Home gives me 9, but not the one offered via the
>> shield,
>> plus a Roots Cert update.

>
>
> Perhaps it was superseded by newer update(s) to the same module(s)?
>
>
>> I can see that this shield is going to stay with me - so should I delete
>> last months install and do it again?

>
>
> Did a superseding update get successfully done (post-boot?)
> Then any reference to the superseded one should be deleted after that.
> So, why is the shield staying? Because of a superseding one which also
> can't be completed during the boot or something else?
>
>
> HTH
>
> Robert Aldwinckle
> ---
>
>

Hello Robert
Thank you for your interest and reply.
After my post I downloaded the update to the Mal Soft Remover and did
nothing else.
Before going to bed the shield still showed that one KB and WU Home the same
as previously.
I next switched on about 5pm this evening - no shield appeared - my luck was
in - switched off at 7.30pm.
I returned to the computer at 11.30pm and the shield was there - but it
showed all the updates as per the WU Home page had on offer.
I hope you do think your help has been a complete waste of time.
With my limited knowledge and your comprehensive technical reply, I can only
say that you have been let off very lightly, because, had the problem
persisted the Q's I would have posed to your response would have tested the
patience of the most patient of men to breaking point.
I must remember to add that bit about 'not being able to educate pork' after
my signature - it gives a hint of my computer ignorance to anyone replying
:-).
The bit about the Event Viewer I did understand - no error identified that I
could connect to the yellow shield matter.
I boot after all downloads whether or not requested - ever since that
security update some months ago didn't tell us to reboot when it should
have.
Now all I have to do is get ALL the others downloaded.
Thank you - keep up the good work here in the groups.
Rgds
Antioch


 
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