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Eric
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      12-10-2007
I create a program file.
Once it was opened, I no longer have the authority to delete it.
The only way to delete is, is to restart the computer, and then delete it.
I am working with an administrator account.

What could be the reason for this?
 
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Jon
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      12-10-2007

"Eric" <> wrote in message
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>I create a program file.
> Once it was opened, I no longer have the authority to delete it.
> The only way to delete is, is to restart the computer, and then delete it.
> I am working with an administrator account.
>
> What could be the reason for this?



Sounds like it's remaining open. Close the program file and then try
deleting it, as an alternative to rebooting.

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alexB
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      12-10-2007
Yep, Jon said the truth. You do not have to restart your computer, though.
Click Ctrl+Alt+Del, click Task Manager, find your program. It is either
stuck in Applications or the other tab: All Processes. Kill the process. Now
you can delete it. Your app does not know how to terminate properly and
clean up after itself.

"Eric" <> wrote in message
news:B98BF1BB-CFB7-4A62-B19D-...
>I create a program file.
> Once it was opened, I no longer have the authority to delete it.
> The only way to delete is, is to restart the computer, and then delete it.
> I am working with an administrator account.
>
> What could be the reason for this?


 
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NoStop
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      12-10-2007
alexB wrote:

> Yep, Jon said the truth. You do not have to restart your computer, though.
> Click Ctrl+Alt+Del, click Task Manager, find your program. It is either
> stuck in Applications or the other tab: All Processes. Kill the process.
> Now you can delete it. Your app does not know how to terminate properly
> and clean up after itself.
>

Isn't that the job of the operating system?

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Frank
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      12-10-2007
NoStop wrote:

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> Isn't that the job of the operating system?
>

----------------------------------------------------

And your job doris is to go kiss RS's hairy arse!
So what are you waiting for?
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Eric
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      12-11-2007
Thank you Jon,

Before I submitted this question, I did these checkings.
It is not a question of a file in use, it is a matter of authority.
While using an executable file, windows vista changes the autority of these
files. After closing them, the operating system should return the authority,
but it doesn't.

I have the same problem after downloading files from the internet.
I cannot delete them unless I restrart my computer.

I am a computer programmer since over 15 years, and I have never seen system
errors of this dimension before.



"Jon" wrote:

>
> "Eric" <> wrote in message
> news:B98BF1BB-CFB7-4A62-B19D-...
> >I create a program file.
> > Once it was opened, I no longer have the authority to delete it.
> > The only way to delete is, is to restart the computer, and then delete it.
> > I am working with an administrator account.
> >
> > What could be the reason for this?

>
>
> Sounds like it's remaining open. Close the program file and then try
> deleting it, as an alternative to rebooting.
>
> --
> Jon
>
>
>

 
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Jon
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      12-11-2007
Sounds an odd one that. Possibly to do with 'Mandatory Integrity
Control'.....


A couple of articles that may help .....

Mandatory Integrity Control
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandato...egrity_Control


Mandatory Integrity Control
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb648648.aspx


SysInternals also do a tool with which you can view the integrity level of
an object

AccessChk v4.02
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sys...AccessChk.mspx


To give a simple example - create a file on your desktop eg test.txt, and
then open up IE in protected mode. Go to the file menu in IE and browse to
the file, and try and right-click > Delete. You'll notice that you'll get a
whole load of prompts to delete the file (or possibly not depending on UAC
settings), whereas if you close IE and just try deleting it from the
desktop, it will delete with no problem. This is due to IE running with low
integrity, which also protects you while you're surfing the net.

Perhaps something similar is occurring in your case (?).

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"Eric" <> wrote in message
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> Thank you Jon,
>
> Before I submitted this question, I did these checkings.
> It is not a question of a file in use, it is a matter of authority.
> While using an executable file, windows vista changes the autority of
> these
> files. After closing them, the operating system should return the
> authority,
> but it doesn't.
>
> I have the same problem after downloading files from the internet.
> I cannot delete them unless I restrart my computer.
>
> I am a computer programmer since over 15 years, and I have never seen
> system
> errors of this dimension before.
>
>
>
> "Jon" wrote:
>
>>
>> "Eric" <> wrote in message
>> news:B98BF1BB-CFB7-4A62-B19D-...
>> >I create a program file.
>> > Once it was opened, I no longer have the authority to delete it.
>> > The only way to delete is, is to restart the computer, and then delete
>> > it.
>> > I am working with an administrator account.
>> >
>> > What could be the reason for this?

>>
>>
>> Sounds like it's remaining open. Close the program file and then try
>> deleting it, as an alternative to rebooting.
>>
>> --
>> Jon
>>
>>
>>


 
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Eric
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      12-15-2007
Jon,

I finally have found the reason for the strange behaviour of my windows vista.
After searching for an answer in software, I checked out the hardware.
I discovered a crc-error on my hard drive.
After changing the disk, the problems seem to be resolved.



"Jon" wrote:

> Sounds an odd one that. Possibly to do with 'Mandatory Integrity
> Control'.....
>
>
> A couple of articles that may help .....
>
> Mandatory Integrity Control
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandato...egrity_Control
>
>
> Mandatory Integrity Control
> http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb648648.aspx
>
>
> SysInternals also do a tool with which you can view the integrity level of
> an object
>
> AccessChk v4.02
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sys...AccessChk.mspx
>
>
> To give a simple example - create a file on your desktop eg test.txt, and
> then open up IE in protected mode. Go to the file menu in IE and browse to
> the file, and try and right-click > Delete. You'll notice that you'll get a
> whole load of prompts to delete the file (or possibly not depending on UAC
> settings), whereas if you close IE and just try deleting it from the
> desktop, it will delete with no problem. This is due to IE running with low
> integrity, which also protects you while you're surfing the net.
>
> Perhaps something similar is occurring in your case (?).
>
> --
> Jon
>
>
> "Eric" <> wrote in message
> news:677DB4E9-F36E-48E5-89A3-...
> > Thank you Jon,
> >
> > Before I submitted this question, I did these checkings.
> > It is not a question of a file in use, it is a matter of authority.
> > While using an executable file, windows vista changes the autority of
> > these
> > files. After closing them, the operating system should return the
> > authority,
> > but it doesn't.
> >
> > I have the same problem after downloading files from the internet.
> > I cannot delete them unless I restrart my computer.
> >
> > I am a computer programmer since over 15 years, and I have never seen
> > system
> > errors of this dimension before.
> >
> >
> >
> > "Jon" wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> "Eric" <> wrote in message
> >> news:B98BF1BB-CFB7-4A62-B19D-...
> >> >I create a program file.
> >> > Once it was opened, I no longer have the authority to delete it.
> >> > The only way to delete is, is to restart the computer, and then delete
> >> > it.
> >> > I am working with an administrator account.
> >> >
> >> > What could be the reason for this?
> >>
> >>
> >> Sounds like it's remaining open. Close the program file and then try
> >> deleting it, as an alternative to rebooting.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jon
> >>
> >>
> >>

>
>

 
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