Best Practice for Set up your internet address and 2 different domains

I want to make sure i get this right the first time. I am setting up
an SBS 2008 server and am to the point of setting up the domain. I
have 2 - but, both are for different things.

name1.com = remote access (don't need for e-mail, just RWW)
name2.com = e-mail for company (don't need for RWW, just e-mail)

It is my understanding that the "Set up your internet address wizard"
will setup exchange (which i will need for name2.com) as well as
remote access (which is name1.com)...

Another facet is this: i'm not using Exchange completely for e-mail, I
am usign the POP connector to grab name2.com e-mail, which should
complicate things a little bit more :-) So, i don't want to set it up
to be my mail server - per se...

So, do i run the wizard and use name1.com and then add name2.com
manually? That seems the logical choice...

thanks,
jared

In article <>,
says...
>
> I want to make sure i get this right the first time. I am setting up
> an SBS 2008 server and am to the point of setting up the domain. I
> have 2 - but, both are for different things.
>
> name1.com = remote access (don't need for e-mail, just RWW)
> name2.com = e-mail for company (don't need for RWW, just e-mail)
>
> It is my understanding that the "Set up your internet address wizard"
> will setup exchange (which i will need for name2.com) as well as
> remote access (which is name1.com)...
>
> Another facet is this: i'm not using Exchange completely for e-mail, I
> am usign the POP connector to grab name2.com e-mail, which should
> complicate things a little bit more :-) So, i don't want to set it up
> to be my mail server - per se...
>
> So, do i run the wizard and use name1.com and then add name2.com
> manually? That seems the logical choice...
>
> thanks,
> jared

SBS does not handle 2 domain names for all functions well, you need to
pick a primary domain name as the main one for all functions and then
you can add email domains to exchange yourself.

I happen to have 7 domain names for myself, companies, family, and two
others. I have domain1.com as the one I use for all functions, including
RWW, the others are only for email.

So, your RWW, Companyweb, VPN's, etc... will be attached to one public
domain name for your SSL certificate/authentication to work properly.
All other domains are just email domains.

--
You can't trust your best friends, your five senses, only the little
voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that.
Trust yourself.
(remove 999 for proper email address)

Thanks, that's excactly how i've set it up...my only concern is having
our main domain that i just setup for mail being blacklisted because
it isn't the main one...for example, i can't e-mail anyone on
craigslist because it says the DNS doens't match the RDNS...i'm using
popBeamer for the mail, which i'm sure is part of the issue...the
reason i'm using popBeamer instead exchange is because over 1/2 of our
company is spread out over the globe and i don't want to be in charge
of their mail issues if our server goes down, etc...let them Pop in
and i'll pop down the people here at the office...it just just having
the issues i have now with trying not to get blacklisted that sucks...

jared

On Mon, 6 Sep 2010 19:28:39 -0400, Leythos <>
wrote:

>In article <>,
> says...
>>
>> I want to make sure i get this right the first time. I am setting up
>> an SBS 2008 server and am to the point of setting up the domain. I
>> have 2 - but, both are for different things.
>>
>> name1.com = remote access (don't need for e-mail, just RWW)
>> name2.com = e-mail for company (don't need for RWW, just e-mail)
>>
>> It is my understanding that the "Set up your internet address wizard"
>> will setup exchange (which i will need for name2.com) as well as
>> remote access (which is name1.com)...
>>
>> Another facet is this: i'm not using Exchange completely for e-mail, I
>> am usign the POP connector to grab name2.com e-mail, which should
>> complicate things a little bit more :-) So, i don't want to set it up
>> to be my mail server - per se...
>>
>> So, do i run the wizard and use name1.com and then add name2.com
>> manually? That seems the logical choice...
>>
>> thanks,
>> jared
>
>SBS does not handle 2 domain names for all functions well, you need to
>pick a primary domain name as the main one for all functions and then
>you can add email domains to exchange yourself.
>
>I happen to have 7 domain names for myself, companies, family, and two
>others. I have domain1.com as the one I use for all functions, including
>RWW, the others are only for email.
>
>So, your RWW, Companyweb, VPN's, etc... will be attached to one public
>domain name for your SSL certificate/authentication to work properly.
>All other domains are just email domains.

Well, i've run into a snag - i set up the 2nd e-mail address according
to the instructions here:

http://www.messagingtalk.org/configu...itional-domain

and things seemed to work perfectly - until, that is, someone tried to
e-mail a user that wasn't on the network but the same domain name. So,
here is what i have.

Domain1.com = RWW/SSL Cert/ETC. using the setup wizards
Domain2.com = setup for mail using instructions above (popBeamer
grabbing mail and putting it in peoples boxes)

= on SBS2008 network
= off sbs2008 network

Well, when someone on the network tries to e-mail it
delivers perfectly. BUT, when they e-mail it fails
with the error: "the recipients e-mail address was not found in the
recipients e-mail system" is a perfectly vailid
user that pop3's his mail from the mail host in AZ.

So, how do i have exchange send the message out to the ISP if it isn't
a local user? any QUICK help would rock :-) thanks...

thanks,
jared





On Mon, 6 Sep 2010 19:28:39 -0400, Leythos <>
wrote:

>In article <>,
> says...
>>
>> I want to make sure i get this right the first time. I am setting up
>> an SBS 2008 server and am to the point of setting up the domain. I
>> have 2 - but, both are for different things.
>>
>> name1.com = remote access (don't need for e-mail, just RWW)
>> name2.com = e-mail for company (don't need for RWW, just e-mail)
>>
>> It is my understanding that the "Set up your internet address wizard"
>> will setup exchange (which i will need for name2.com) as well as
>> remote access (which is name1.com)...
>>
>> Another facet is this: i'm not using Exchange completely for e-mail, I
>> am usign the POP connector to grab name2.com e-mail, which should
>> complicate things a little bit more :-) So, i don't want to set it up
>> to be my mail server - per se...
>>
>> So, do i run the wizard and use name1.com and then add name2.com
>> manually? That seems the logical choice...
>>
>> thanks,
>> jared
>
>SBS does not handle 2 domain names for all functions well, you need to
>pick a primary domain name as the main one for all functions and then
>you can add email domains to exchange yourself.
>
>I happen to have 7 domain names for myself, companies, family, and two
>others. I have domain1.com as the one I use for all functions, including
>RWW, the others are only for email.
>
>So, your RWW, Companyweb, VPN's, etc... will be attached to one public
>domain name for your SSL certificate/authentication to work properly.
>All other domains are just email domains.

All email for a given domain has to be handled by a single
destination. e.g. a given domain (domain2.com) can only "terminate" at
a single server. That's because the MX records are at domain level and
not mailbox level.

Your server has now become the definitive server for that domain.

It sounds like you will need to set up your server with adiitonal
mailboxes, and have those forwarding the emails to whichever account
your AZ user is POPping them from. Either that, or get your AZ user to
POP them from your SBS 2008 server instead.


Jim

On Tue, 07 Sep 2010 08:15:03 -0600, jaredean <> wrote:

>Well, i've run into a snag - i set up the 2nd e-mail address according
>to the instructions here:
>
>http://www.messagingtalk.org/configu...itional-domain
>
>and things seemed to work perfectly - until, that is, someone tried to
>e-mail a user that wasn't on the network but the same domain name. So,
>here is what i have.
>
>Domain1.com = RWW/SSL Cert/ETC. using the setup wizards
>Domain2.com = setup for mail using instructions above (popBeamer
>grabbing mail and putting it in peoples boxes)
>
> = on SBS2008 network
> = off sbs2008 network
>
>Well, when someone on the network tries to e-mail it
>delivers perfectly. BUT, when they e-mail it fails
>with the error: "the recipients e-mail address was not found in the
>recipients e-mail system" is a perfectly vailid
>user that pop3's his mail from the mail host in AZ.
>
>So, how do i have exchange send the message out to the ISP if it isn't
>a local user? any QUICK help would rock :-) thanks...
>
>thanks,
>jared
>
>
>
>
>
>On Mon, 6 Sep 2010 19:28:39 -0400, Leythos <>
>wrote:
>
>>In article <>,
>> says...
>>>
>>> I want to make sure i get this right the first time. I am setting up
>>> an SBS 2008 server and am to the point of setting up the domain. I
>>> have 2 - but, both are for different things.
>>>
>>> name1.com = remote access (don't need for e-mail, just RWW)
>>> name2.com = e-mail for company (don't need for RWW, just e-mail)
>>>
>>> It is my understanding that the "Set up your internet address wizard"
>>> will setup exchange (which i will need for name2.com) as well as
>>> remote access (which is name1.com)...
>>>
>>> Another facet is this: i'm not using Exchange completely for e-mail, I
>>> am usign the POP connector to grab name2.com e-mail, which should
>>> complicate things a little bit more :-) So, i don't want to set it up
>>> to be my mail server - per se...
>>>
>>> So, do i run the wizard and use name1.com and then add name2.com
>>> manually? That seems the logical choice...
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>> jared
>>
>>SBS does not handle 2 domain names for all functions well, you need to
>>pick a primary domain name as the main one for all functions and then
>>you can add email domains to exchange yourself.
>>
>>I happen to have 7 domain names for myself, companies, family, and two
>>others. I have domain1.com as the one I use for all functions, including
>>RWW, the others are only for email.
>>
>>So, your RWW, Companyweb, VPN's, etc... will be attached to one public
>>domain name for your SSL certificate/authentication to work properly.
>>All other domains are just email domains.

I wish i could use Exchange the way it should be, but many of our
users are in other countries, different language issues, etc...it
would difficult to have them be a part of our network - i'd prefer to
keep them separate and have them POP in for their e-mail...i made that
decision when i first got SBS 2000 and haven't looked back...

When i setup 2003 i had this very same issue...i paid Russ to fix it
for me and he did, but i can't remember his steps...i'll have to find
his phone number so i can call and see if he can help again unless
someone here knows?

jared

On Tue, 7 Sep 2010 09:58:19 -0500, "Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP]"
<> wrote:

>That's a problem with POP3 mail, where not all users of the domainname
>Is there a reason you can't dump the pop3 and have all mail come directly to the Exchange Server and those remote users could get their mail from the Exchange Server (Outlook Web Access or Outlook over HTTP)

You'll probably find Russ in the new forum that is replacing this newsgroup.
I suggest you post there in the future.

http://social.technet.microsoft.com/...businessserver


"jaredean" <> wrote in message
news:...
>I actually paid Russ to remote into my SBS 2003 setup a few years back
> because we had this very same setup and he was able to do it...russ?
> you around???
>
> I know it can be done, or at least it was done on SBS 2003...i wish
> i'd paid better attention...
>
> Any ideas?
>
> jared
>
> On Tue, 07 Sep 2010 15:58:42 +0100, Jim <> wrote:
>
>>All email for a given domain has to be handled by a single
>>destination. e.g. a given domain (domain2.com) can only "terminate" at
>>a single server. That's because the MX records are at domain level and
>>not mailbox level.
>>
>>Your server has now become the definitive server for that domain.
>>
>>It sounds like you will need to set up your server with adiitonal
>>mailboxes, and have those forwarding the emails to whichever account
>>your AZ user is POPping them from. Either that, or get your AZ user to
>>POP them from your SBS 2008 server instead.
>>
>>
>>Jim
>>
>>On Tue, 07 Sep 2010 08:15:03 -0600, jaredean <> wrote:
>>
>>>Well, i've run into a snag - i set up the 2nd e-mail address according
>>>to the instructions here:
>>>
>>>http://www.messagingtalk.org/configu...itional-domain
>>>
>>>and things seemed to work perfectly - until, that is, someone tried to
>>>e-mail a user that wasn't on the network but the same domain name. So,
>>>here is what i have.
>>>
>>>Domain1.com = RWW/SSL Cert/ETC. using the setup wizards
>>>Domain2.com = setup for mail using instructions above (popBeamer
>>>grabbing mail and putting it in peoples boxes)
>>>
>>> = on SBS2008 network
>>> = off sbs2008 network
>>>
>>>Well, when someone on the network tries to e-mail it
>>>delivers perfectly. BUT, when they e-mail it fails
>>>with the error: "the recipients e-mail address was not found in the
>>>recipients e-mail system" is a perfectly vailid
>>>user that pop3's his mail from the mail host in AZ.
>>>
>>>So, how do i have exchange send the message out to the ISP if it isn't
>>>a local user? any QUICK help would rock :-) thanks...
>>>
>>>thanks,
>>>jared
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Mon, 6 Sep 2010 19:28:39 -0400, Leythos <>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>In article <>,
>>>> says...
>>>>>
>>>>> I want to make sure i get this right the first time. I am setting up
>>>>> an SBS 2008 server and am to the point of setting up the domain. I
>>>>> have 2 - but, both are for different things.
>>>>>
>>>>> name1.com = remote access (don't need for e-mail, just RWW)
>>>>> name2.com = e-mail for company (don't need for RWW, just e-mail)
>>>>>
>>>>> It is my understanding that the "Set up your internet address wizard"
>>>>> will setup exchange (which i will need for name2.com) as well as
>>>>> remote access (which is name1.com)...
>>>>>
>>>>> Another facet is this: i'm not using Exchange completely for e-mail, I
>>>>> am usign the POP connector to grab name2.com e-mail, which should
>>>>> complicate things a little bit more :-) So, i don't want to set it up
>>>>> to be my mail server - per se...
>>>>>
>>>>> So, do i run the wizard and use name1.com and then add name2.com
>>>>> manually? That seems the logical choice...
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks,
>>>>> jared
>>>>
>>>>SBS does not handle 2 domain names for all functions well, you need to
>>>>pick a primary domain name as the main one for all functions and then
>>>>you can add email domains to exchange yourself.
>>>>
>>>>I happen to have 7 domain names for myself, companies, family, and two
>>>>others. I have domain1.com as the one I use for all functions, including
>>>>RWW, the others are only for email.
>>>>
>>>>So, your RWW, Companyweb, VPN's, etc... will be attached to one public
>>>>domain name for your SSL certificate/authentication to work properly.
>>>>All other domains are just email domains.

Are you kicking me out steve? :-) Just kidding...so, is the other
forum replacing this one? i've noticed other microsoft forums moving,
but thought this one would stay put...i guess not...

jared

On Tue, 7 Sep 2010 10:59:13 -0700, "SteveB" <>
wrote:

>You'll probably find Russ in the new forum that is replacing this newsgroup.
>I suggest you post there in the future.
>
>http://social.technet.microsoft.com/...businessserver
>
>
>"jaredean" <> wrote in message
>news:.. .
>>I actually paid Russ to remote into my SBS 2003 setup a few years back
>> because we had this very same setup and he was able to do it...russ?
>> you around???
>>
>> I know it can be done, or at least it was done on SBS 2003...i wish
>> i'd paid better attention...
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>> jared
>>
>> On Tue, 07 Sep 2010 15:58:42 +0100, Jim <> wrote:
>>
>>>All email for a given domain has to be handled by a single
>>>destination. e.g. a given domain (domain2.com) can only "terminate" at
>>>a single server. That's because the MX records are at domain level and
>>>not mailbox level.
>>>
>>>Your server has now become the definitive server for that domain.
>>>
>>>It sounds like you will need to set up your server with adiitonal
>>>mailboxes, and have those forwarding the emails to whichever account
>>>your AZ user is POPping them from. Either that, or get your AZ user to
>>>POP them from your SBS 2008 server instead.
>>>
>>>
>>>Jim
>>>
>>>On Tue, 07 Sep 2010 08:15:03 -0600, jaredean <> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Well, i've run into a snag - i set up the 2nd e-mail address according
>>>>to the instructions here:
>>>>
>>>>http://www.messagingtalk.org/configu...itional-domain
>>>>
>>>>and things seemed to work perfectly - until, that is, someone tried to
>>>>e-mail a user that wasn't on the network but the same domain name. So,
>>>>here is what i have.
>>>>
>>>>Domain1.com = RWW/SSL Cert/ETC. using the setup wizards
>>>>Domain2.com = setup for mail using instructions above (popBeamer
>>>>grabbing mail and putting it in peoples boxes)
>>>>
>>>> = on SBS2008 network
>>>> = off sbs2008 network
>>>>
>>>>Well, when someone on the network tries to e-mail it
>>>>delivers perfectly. BUT, when they e-mail it fails
>>>>with the error: "the recipients e-mail address was not found in the
>>>>recipients e-mail system" is a perfectly vailid
>>>>user that pop3's his mail from the mail host in AZ.
>>>>
>>>>So, how do i have exchange send the message out to the ISP if it isn't
>>>>a local user? any QUICK help would rock :-) thanks...
>>>>
>>>>thanks,
>>>>jared
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On Mon, 6 Sep 2010 19:28:39 -0400, Leythos <>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>In article <>,
>>>>> says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I want to make sure i get this right the first time. I am setting up
>>>>>> an SBS 2008 server and am to the point of setting up the domain. I
>>>>>> have 2 - but, both are for different things.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> name1.com = remote access (don't need for e-mail, just RWW)
>>>>>> name2.com = e-mail for company (don't need for RWW, just e-mail)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is my understanding that the "Set up your internet address wizard"
>>>>>> will setup exchange (which i will need for name2.com) as well as
>>>>>> remote access (which is name1.com)...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Another facet is this: i'm not using Exchange completely for e-mail, I
>>>>>> am usign the POP connector to grab name2.com e-mail, which should
>>>>>> complicate things a little bit more :-) So, i don't want to set it up
>>>>>> to be my mail server - per se...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, do i run the wizard and use name1.com and then add name2.com
>>>>>> manually? That seems the logical choice...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>> jared
>>>>>
>>>>>SBS does not handle 2 domain names for all functions well, you need to
>>>>>pick a primary domain name as the main one for all functions and then
>>>>>you can add email domains to exchange yourself.
>>>>>
>>>>>I happen to have 7 domain names for myself, companies, family, and two
>>>>>others. I have domain1.com as the one I use for all functions, including
>>>>>RWW, the others are only for email.
>>>>>
>>>>>So, your RWW, Companyweb, VPN's, etc... will be attached to one public
>>>>>domain name for your SSL certificate/authentication to work properly.
>>>>>All other domains are just email domains.
>

See the message on 8/31 from . MS is closing this
newsgroup on 9/12. It has been pointed out that this newsgroup may continue
without MS involvement, but I suspect that fewer and fewer will use it at
time goes on.

"jaredean" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Are you kicking me out steve? :-) Just kidding...so, is the other
> forum replacing this one? i've noticed other microsoft forums moving,
> but thought this one would stay put...i guess not...
>
> jared
>
> On Tue, 7 Sep 2010 10:59:13 -0700, "SteveB" <>
> wrote:
>
>>You'll probably find Russ in the new forum that is replacing this
>>newsgroup.
>>I suggest you post there in the future.
>>
>>http://social.technet.microsoft.com/...businessserver
>>
>>
>>"jaredean" <> wrote in message
>>news:. ..
>>>I actually paid Russ to remote into my SBS 2003 setup a few years back
>>> because we had this very same setup and he was able to do it...russ?
>>> you around???
>>>
>>> I know it can be done, or at least it was done on SBS 2003...i wish
>>> i'd paid better attention...
>>>
>>> Any ideas?
>>>
>>> jared
>>>
>>> On Tue, 07 Sep 2010 15:58:42 +0100, Jim <> wrote:
>>>
>>>>All email for a given domain has to be handled by a single
>>>>destination. e.g. a given domain (domain2.com) can only "terminate" at
>>>>a single server. That's because the MX records are at domain level and
>>>>not mailbox level.
>>>>
>>>>Your server has now become the definitive server for that domain.
>>>>
>>>>It sounds like you will need to set up your server with adiitonal
>>>>mailboxes, and have those forwarding the emails to whichever account
>>>>your AZ user is POPping them from. Either that, or get your AZ user to
>>>>POP them from your SBS 2008 server instead.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Jim
>>>>
>>>>On Tue, 07 Sep 2010 08:15:03 -0600, jaredean <> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Well, i've run into a snag - i set up the 2nd e-mail address according
>>>>>to the instructions here:
>>>>>
>>>>>http://www.messagingtalk.org/configu...itional-domain
>>>>>
>>>>>and things seemed to work perfectly - until, that is, someone tried to
>>>>>e-mail a user that wasn't on the network but the same domain name. So,
>>>>>here is what i have.
>>>>>
>>>>>Domain1.com = RWW/SSL Cert/ETC. using the setup wizards
>>>>>Domain2.com = setup for mail using instructions above (popBeamer
>>>>>grabbing mail and putting it in peoples boxes)
>>>>>
>>>>> = on SBS2008 network
>>>>> = off sbs2008 network
>>>>>
>>>>>Well, when someone on the network tries to e-mail it
>>>>>delivers perfectly. BUT, when they e-mail it fails
>>>>>with the error: "the recipients e-mail address was not found in the
>>>>>recipients e-mail system" is a perfectly vailid
>>>>>user that pop3's his mail from the mail host in AZ.
>>>>>
>>>>>So, how do i have exchange send the message out to the ISP if it isn't
>>>>>a local user? any QUICK help would rock :-) thanks...
>>>>>
>>>>>thanks,
>>>>>jared
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>On Mon, 6 Sep 2010 19:28:39 -0400, Leythos <>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>In article <>,
>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I want to make sure i get this right the first time. I am setting
>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>> an SBS 2008 server and am to the point of setting up the domain. I
>>>>>>> have 2 - but, both are for different things.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> name1.com = remote access (don't need for e-mail, just RWW)
>>>>>>> name2.com = e-mail for company (don't need for RWW, just e-mail)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is my understanding that the "Set up your internet address
>>>>>>> wizard"
>>>>>>> will setup exchange (which i will need for name2.com) as well as
>>>>>>> remote access (which is name1.com)...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Another facet is this: i'm not using Exchange completely for e-mail,
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> am usign the POP connector to grab name2.com e-mail, which should
>>>>>>> complicate things a little bit more :-) So, i don't want to set it
>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>> to be my mail server - per se...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, do i run the wizard and use name1.com and then add name2.com
>>>>>>> manually? That seems the logical choice...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>>> jared
>>>>>>
>>>>>>SBS does not handle 2 domain names for all functions well, you need to
>>>>>>pick a primary domain name as the main one for all functions and then
>>>>>>you can add email domains to exchange yourself.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I happen to have 7 domain names for myself, companies, family, and two
>>>>>>others. I have domain1.com as the one I use for all functions,
>>>>>>including
>>>>>>RWW, the others are only for email.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>So, your RWW, Companyweb, VPN's, etc... will be attached to one public
>>>>>>domain name for your SSL certificate/authentication to work properly.
>>>>>>All other domains are just email domains.
>>