Bill Gates on "The Daily Show"

Did anyone else happen to see Gates' appearance on The Daily Show? Jon
Stewart asked Bill, rather incredulously, whether beta testers would get to
keep using their "free" version of Vista. *Gates responded in the
affirmative,* saying that after all the glitches and problems beta testers
had to put up with, they'd earned their copy.

So why is there still an expiration date? Bill wasn't LYING, was he?

tom_m wrote:
> Did anyone else happen to see Gates' appearance on The Daily Show? Jon
> Stewart asked Bill, rather incredulously, whether beta testers would
> get to keep using their "free" version of Vista. *Gates responded in
> the affirmative,* saying that after all the glitches and problems
> beta testers had to put up with, they'd earned their copy.
>
> So why is there still an expiration date? Bill wasn't LYING, was he?

Depending upon whether or not they filed any bug reports and participated,
beta testers were offered a free version of Vista at the close of the beta.

--
Michael Solomon

"tom_m" <> wrote in message
news:F43D2A20-DE37-4909-A56F-...
> Did anyone else happen to see Gates' appearance on The Daily Show? Jon
> Stewart asked Bill, rather incredulously, whether beta testers would get
> to
> keep using their "free" version of Vista. *Gates responded in the
> affirmative,* saying that after all the glitches and problems beta testers
> had to put up with, they'd earned their copy.
>
> So why is there still an expiration date? Bill wasn't LYING, was he?

He's not the boss anymore.

The beta versions were and are time-bombed and will expire. The free version
of the final release given to beta testers who filed bug reports is not, and
its license does not expire.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

"tom_m" <> wrote in message
news:F43D2A20-DE37-4909-A56F-...
> Did anyone else happen to see Gates' appearance on The Daily Show? Jon
> Stewart asked Bill, rather incredulously, whether beta testers would get
> to
> keep using their "free" version of Vista. *Gates responded in the
> affirmative,* saying that after all the glitches and problems beta testers
> had to put up with, they'd earned their copy.
>
> So why is there still an expiration date? Bill wasn't LYING, was he?

* Julian:
> "tom_m" <> wrote in message
> news:F43D2A20-DE37-4909-A56F-...
>> Did anyone else happen to see Gates' appearance on The Daily Show? Jon
>> Stewart asked Bill, rather incredulously, whether beta testers would
>> get to
>> keep using their "free" version of Vista. *Gates responded in the
>> affirmative,* saying that after all the glitches and problems beta
>> testers
>> had to put up with, they'd earned their copy.
>>
>> So why is there still an expiration date? Bill wasn't LYING, was he?
>
> He's not the boss anymore.

Bill Gates may not micro-manage day to day operations,
but he's still *the* boss. As Chairman and Microsoft's
largest single shareholder, he could fire anyone he wanted
to in the blink of an eye.


http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/exec/billg/bio.mspx


http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/e...ransition.mspx
Bill Gates:
<quote>
Now, as the shareholder, personal shareholder, I see myself always being the largest
shareholder of Microsoft.
</quote>


I like this one, and it does make some sense. For all the mega billions
in profit that Microsoft makes, its stock price just doesn't want to go up-
and has been stuck in the same trading range for years.

http://www.peridotcapitalist.com/200...allmer_12.html

Note to Microsoft: Fire Steve Ballmer

It made perfect sense for Bill Gates to be replaced as CEO of Microsoft (MSFT), and renamed
Chief Software Architect. Gates is a technology guy, not a traditional business executive. When
you surpass General Electric (GE) as the most valuable U.S. company, as Microsoft did back in
the technology stock hey day, you should have people focusing on their core competencies. For
Gates, that was software.

In stepped Steve Ballmer to take over as CEO. How is he doing? Horribly, if you ask me. Now I
don't own Microsoft stock (thank goodness), but if I did I would be infuriated. The shares have
done nothing in 8 years. They trade in the low 20's, same level they were in 1998. Any investor
will tell you that shareholders can share in the success of a public company in two ways,
through share price appreciation, or through the return of capital.

For some reason, however, Ballmer does not particularly like either one of these forms of
building shareholder wealth. Microsoft has nearly $35 billion in the bank and another $10
billion or so in investments just sitting on their balance sheet collecting dust. It's like he
doesn't care about the shareholders one bit, despite the fact that they own the company and he
works for them.

And that is why I think he should be fired. That doesn't mean he needs to leave Redmond
entirely. Rather, orchestrate a similar migration to the one Gates embarked on several years
ago. Ballmer's core competency clearly isn't working for the shareholders as CEO, so he should
be working for someone else, his successor.

Not only has Ballmer been completely unfriendly to shareholders since he took over, he doesn't
seem to care that they are upset with Microsoft's huge cash balance. When asked about the issue
Ballmer told investors and analysts "It is likely I will continue to have to discuss with you
for many years why we have as much cash as we do."

That quote says two things. One, we will continue to treat shareholders like crap. And two, he
obviously thinks that it is a chore to "have to" have these discussions, proof that has no idea
who he is working for or what his objectives should be.

Ballmer will likely try to make the case that they need all of that cash to invest heavily in
R&D. Anyone who has paid attention to Microsoft in recent years knows that they are not doing
much innovating at all compared with their competitors. The majority of their income still
comes from Windows and Office. Their other ventures, like XBox for example, are losing money.

Most of what is going on in Redmond seems to lack strategic sense. Why are they in the video
game business anyway? Why do they own billions in Comcast stock? Why do they have a bank
account with $35 billion in it? It's no wonder Microsoft stock has done nothing for 8 years. If
shareholders ever want to make decent money on their MSFT stock, they are going to have to fire
Steve Ballmer.

"Rick Rogers" wrote:

> The beta versions were and are time-bombed and will expire. The free version
> of the final release given to beta testers who filed bug reports is not, and
> its license does not expire.
>
> --
> Best of Luck,
>
> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
>
> "tom_m" <> wrote in message
> news:F43D2A20-DE37-4909-A56F-...
> > Did anyone else happen to see Gates' appearance on The Daily Show? Jon
> > Stewart asked Bill, rather incredulously, whether beta testers would get
> > to
> > keep using their "free" version of Vista. *Gates responded in the
> > affirmative,* saying that after all the glitches and problems beta testers
> > had to put up with, they'd earned their copy.
> >
> > So why is there still an expiration date? Bill wasn't LYING, was he?
>
>

"Rick Rogers" wrote:

> The beta versions were and are time-bombed and will expire. The free version
> of the final release given to beta testers who filed bug reports is not, and
> its license does not expire.
>
> --
> Best of Luck,
>
> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
>
> "tom_m" <> wrote in message
> news:F43D2A20-DE37-4909-A56F-...
> > Did anyone else happen to see Gates' appearance on The Daily Show? Jon
> > Stewart asked Bill, rather incredulously, whether beta testers would get
> > to
> > keep using their "free" version of Vista. *Gates responded in the
> > affirmative,* saying that after all the glitches and problems beta testers
> > had to put up with, they'd earned their copy.
> >
> > So why is there still an expiration date? Bill wasn't LYING, was he?
>
>

First of all, I believe you are confusing 'official' Beta Tester with The
Customer Preview Program (which was open to everybody).
They are not the same.

--
Maxwell Bluemeanie
----
"tom_m" <> wrote in message
news:F43D2A20-DE37-4909-A56F-...
> Did anyone else happen to see Gates' appearance on The Daily Show? Jon
> Stewart asked Bill, rather incredulously, whether beta testers would get
> to
> keep using their "free" version of Vista. *Gates responded in the
> affirmative,* saying that after all the glitches and problems beta testers
> had to put up with, they'd earned their copy.
>
> So why is there still an expiration date? Bill wasn't LYING, was he?

"tom_m" <> wrote in message
news:F43D2A20-DE37-4909-A56F-...
> Did anyone else happen to see Gates' appearance on The Daily Show? Jon
> Stewart asked Bill, rather incredulously, whether beta testers would get
> to
> keep using their "free" version of Vista. *Gates responded in the
> affirmative,* saying that after all the glitches and problems beta testers
> had to put up with, they'd earned their copy.
>
> So why is there still an expiration date? Bill wasn't LYING, was he?

What expiration date? I beta tested Vista, got given a copy which I've
installed and I don't see an expiration date.

Perhaps you're confusing beta testers with people who joined the CPP. I
personally disagree with Microsoft's decision to give a free copy to beta
testers and not to anyone on the CPP (I know many of them worked a lot
harder than I did to test Vista), but at the end of the day Microsoft didn't
*promise* anyone anything for participating in either program.

You mean all those crash reports the system sent off didn't count as bug
reports? If I'd been aware that more input from me was required, I certainly
would have provided it, especially for a "good" copy of Vista! Was this
requirement spelled out anywhere?

"Rick Rogers" wrote:

> The beta versions were and are time-bombed and will expire. The free version
> of the final release given to beta testers who filed bug reports is not, and
> its license does not expire.
>
> --
> Best of Luck,
>
> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
>
> "tom_m" <> wrote in message
> news:F43D2A20-DE37-4909-A56F-...
> > Did anyone else happen to see Gates' appearance on The Daily Show? Jon
> > Stewart asked Bill, rather incredulously, whether beta testers would get
> > to
> > keep using their "free" version of Vista. *Gates responded in the
> > affirmative,* saying that after all the glitches and problems beta testers
> > had to put up with, they'd earned their copy.
> >
> > So why is there still an expiration date? Bill wasn't LYING, was he?
>
>