BIOS check error in Vista Ultimate

Why you no take it here or some tablet forum or some tecra forum or Toshiba
support or your superlative every day collegues?

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CH

"ilv-m" <> wrote in message
news:71B88DC9-0A1B-4EF7-83A7-...
> For this Tecra M4, allowing Vista to control PnP worked fine for Vista
> RC1.
>
> According to Vista RC1, the BIOS message on Vista Ultimate release rev, &
> Toshiba, all stipulate that Tecra M4 BIOS 1.7 supports Vista.
>
> All other systems updated from RC1 to Vista Ultimate-released went very,
> very smoothly.
>
> This Tecra M4 tablet PC with Pentium M, PCI-Express, SATA HDD, 2GB RAM,
> 1440x1050 LCD--is the one and only system where we experienced any issue
> with
> Vista at all--and it's only this final step of getting the release version
> of
> SETUP to proceed with bumping it from RC1 to the release revision.
>
> We even had Beta2 running very smoothly on this same Tecra.
>
>
> "FireWall2" wrote:
>
>> ilv-m,
>>
>> By chance, does your BIOS provide the Option for allowing the BIOS
>> install
>> all Plug and Play devices?
>>
>> If so, verify the BIOS is set to Default, allowing BIOS install PnP, not
>> Vista. Makes installing Vista much smoother, preventing device conflicts.
>>
>> The above is conditional that indeed your BIOS is Vista Compatible. Also,
>> verify which Drive is set as first Boot Drive, should be CD / DVD.
>> --
>> Firewall
>>
>> Disclaimer:
>> Accept Vista as it is, or, Abandon Vista
>>
>>
>> "ilv-m" wrote:
>>
>> > On a Toshiba Tecra M4, that is already running Vista RC1 and already
>> > has the
>> > BIOS verision 1.7 required to install Vista,
>> >
>> > the release version of Vista incorrectly reports the need to update the
>> > BIOS
>> > to 1.7 prior to installation.
>> >
>> > How can this defect in the Vista Ultimate release version installer be
>> > bypassed?
>> >

Download and install the latest BIOS update (version 3.1.0) available from Toshiba:
http://www.csdsupport.toshiba.com/ta...les&model_id=1

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

"ilv-m" wrote:

On a Toshiba Tecra M4, that is already running Vista RC1 and already has the
BIOS verision 1.7 required to install Vista,

the release version of Vista incorrectly reports the need to update the BIOS
to 1.7 prior to installation.

How can this defect in the Vista Ultimate release version installer be
bypassed?

You aren't doing your credibility any favors by implying that Vista RTM is
bug-free while those who are encountering bugs and needing work-arounds that
you simply don't know happen to be wrong. How idiotic. Just go away and
bother someone else.

"Chad Harris" wrote:

> I never intimated or said I was infallible. I was making an effort to help
> you. However your question is just plain goofey, and you keep ascribing
> qualities to Vista RTM that have nothing to do with it.
>
> In a fraction of the time you've wasted trying to empty your bladder on me,
> you could have posted on a Toshiba forum, called Toshiba, gotten some
> competent help (you're definitely in the epicenter of someone who needs a
> competent tech or engineer to sit down and fix whatever you can't at your
> pc) or get those supurlative collegues of yours you bragged on to be done
> with this.
>
> If you're having a problem with Toshiba, take it the hell to a Toshiba
> forum.
>
> You've been asked several times to documnent where in the hell Vista or MSFT
> is "saying" what you claim it's saying--and I mean where in a link or where
> in a message that Windows is giving you. Why haven't you in all these inane
> posts, simply quoted the message(s) you claim are coming from Microsoft and
> Vista?
>
> I didn't read when you read "a short, simple post", instead I read a jumbled
> mess of stream of consciousness that none of us can extrapolate into a
> question.
>
> Your problem besides being systemically with "ilv-m" and his arrogance and
> abbusive tone towards those trying to help him, is that you are displacing a
> Toshiba -ilv-m problem onto MSFT and the Vista teams.
>
> CH
>
>
> "ilv-m" <> wrote in message
> news:68B267BB-9011-4B7B-86F8-...
> > The issue is that you can't read, or didn't bother to read carefully
> > enough.
> > No matter how many pointless posts you are offering to 'help' people, that
> > doesn't mean that you are somehow infallible--especially when you read a
> > short, simple post and turn it into stupid feedback questions and then an
> > idiotic rant when I reject them.
> >
> > "Chad Harris" wrote:
> >
> >> LOL Colin
> >>
> >> I may not be able to solve every problem on these groups, but I have a
> >> pretty good sense of when the OP posted a screwy, misleading, rambling,
> >> and
> >> unclear question that doesn't get improved by ****ing on the help.
> >>
> >> The OP just insisted to me in an insulting way I might add that he/she/it
> >> already has Vista installed on the Tecra which raises the question "What
> >> the
> >> hell was he posting about in the first place" not to mention the point
> >> that
> >> the BIOS is OS agnostic.
> >>
> >> He/She/It is also not posting any problem that would suggest the bios is
> >> interfeering with any OS.
> >>
> >> It's times like these that I always feel great about the fact I can solve
> >> most problems as to Vista or XP setiup and the OP can't whatever it's
> >> problem is.
> >>
> >> The OP is using the time he/she/it needs to take composing a relevant 3rd
> >> grade level sentence or googling to solve its problem.
> >>
> >> CH
> >>
> >> "Colin Barnhorst" <> wrote in message
> >> news:B59C58B2-22A8-4B85-A66D-...
> >> > Just install and see if there really is a problem. If you are not
> >> > comfortable doing that then contact the manufacturer to confirm that
> >> > 1.7
> >> > will support Vista. The BIOS is OS agnostic anyway.
> >> >
> >> > "ilv-m" <> wrote in message
> >> > news:8A5C02D0-9C98-4F48-B851-...
> >> >> as stated, I do already have the correct BIOS installed on the Tecra,
> >> >> since I
> >> >> do already have Vista RC1 installed.
> >> >>
> >> >> Statements about Windows XP are pointless since that is not the issue
> >> >> and
> >> >> I
> >> >> never had any problems with XP either.
> >> >>
> >> >> Vista does have new problems/bugs.
> >> >>
> >> >> One of them is this stupid problem where it says I don't have the 1.7
> >> >> version of the BIOS even though I most certainly do.
> >> >>
> >> >> Please only offer help if you KNOW what you are talking about.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

Either you know how to bypass the incorrect BIOS check and you can make
a useful contribution to the original question, or you can go away.

You seem to irate to be older than 14, so perhaps you need
permission to continue your internet usage.

"Chad Harris" wrote:

> liv--m
>
> These forums help a lot of people but congenital jerks have problems getting
> help--get someone to draw and run a "serum moron/jerk" level on you. I bet
> it's off the wall. You didn't get much help with the congenital disorder in
> the parenting department either and it may well be way the hell too late.
>
> Um do you mind pasting in the link and content for this source material?
>
> 2) "You apparently can't read either since my original post made this clear
> enough for the technical expert peers that I work with daily out in the
> real
> world" ROFLMAO I bet your collegues would be delighted to hear your
> mornic questions then. Why haven't you gotten off of that fat inert ass and
> had them answer it? Why slum here with all the "no-help fake
> know-it-alls"?
>
> You're blowing smoke out your ass. People who consistently help here don't
> have the need to post something. They could drool in the corner with
> notepad and let their dog alternate keystrokes and mouse clicks.
>
> I am surpried at your chutzpah though, with no substance to back it up.
> You're lecturing about who should post and your phrasing of your question is
> so stupidly inadequate that if I had an 6- year old kid who wrote as poorly
> as you--I'd put the kid up for adoption because I'd reason that I had failed
> after that long.
>
> Production release Vista from MSFT in Redmond Washington isn't "claiming"
> that it needs a particular Bios, and it's your job to get with Toshiba to
> see what they might have going on. You're blaming MSFT in your original
> goofey nebulous disjointed post for what is clearly a liv-m problem. Liv-m
> needs to get help using his Toshiba Tecra for openers. Liv-m needs to get
> remedial help on how to 'craft' a question.
>
> Where the hell is your source for this garbage? Crazy liv typed:
>
> "1. Vista RC1 required BIOS 1.7 to install, so I updated BIOS to 1.7.
>
> 2. Now production release Vista claims that it needs BIOS 1.7, but since 1.7
> is already installed, obviously Vista is WRONG."
>
> And LOL your source for this garbage is precisely where?
>
> If you're talking about a Tecra Bios 1.7 situation, take it to a Tecra forum
> and get your daddy or big brother to help you with the question:
> http://forums.computers.toshiba-euro...threadID=18835
>
>
> I can take that Toshiba PC and fire up Vista on it in less than a half hour.
> If you want a response from Microsoft, lol why don't you write them. This
> isn't a place where MSFT hangs out. Thousands of softies have MSDN and
> Technet blogs that deal with hardware. All of them have contact links. Get
> off your lazy ass and contact them.
>
> Oh and you're definitely right about my problem with reading. I've bluffed
> my way through life as an illiterate. Your ability to articulate is
> dazzling though. One more child left behind in the US of A.
>
> "We even had Beta2 running very smoothly on this same Tecra."
>
> You need to
>
> 1) Stop poluting these threads.
> 2) Buy Vistah when you can after January 30.
> 3) Call someone like Best Buys in those cute little VWs--the people some of
> us help all the time on chats to make a house call and hand them the Vista
> you want on that box.
> 4) Or else could you not reach all those competent collegues you boasted of
> in the real world?
>
> "You apparently can't read either since my original post made this clear
> enough for the technical expert peers that I work with daily out in the real
> world."
>
> Yep technical expert peers that you work with definitely ring the bell on
> the "Wow factor." LOL They've done real well with whateverthehell is your
> problem.
>
> 5) "Can this defect in the Vista Ultimate release version installer be
> bypassed?" There is no defect in Vista Ultimate that's in your way--Get a
> good neurlogical workup and then get the neurologist to refer you to a
> shrink.
>
> CH
>
>
> "ilv-m" <> wrote in message
> news:B26FB577-859E-4B5C-AB6B-...
> > Chad, if you can't help, then just remain silent.
> >
> > This is a clasic example of the no-help fake know-it-alls that plug up
> > these
> > forums, and why I rarely bother with them.
> >
> > 1. Vista RC1 required BIOS 1.7 to install, so I updated BIOS to 1.7.
> >
> >
> >
> > You apparently can't read either since my original post made this clear
> > enough for the technical expert peers that I work with daily out in the
> > real
> > world.
> >
> > I want a response from Microsoft about their stupid BIOS check that isn't
> > working correctly, or a response from someone with an answer, not just a
> > bunch of stupid, obvious, and pointless follow-up questions.
> >
> >
> > "Chad Harris" wrote:
> >
> >> liv-M--
> >>
> >> A search on this group and on the Vista general group shows hundreds of
> >> answers from me and none from you.
> >>
> >> It's hard as hell to know anything other than I typed, because of the
> >> hair
> >> brained way you expressed yourself.
> >>
> >> Simply put, your OP implies you are hung up installing Vista. Something
> >> about the phrase " the need to update the BIOS to 1.7 prior to
> >> installation"
> >> evokes that.
> >>
> >> On a Toshiba Tecra M4, that is already running Vista RC1 and already has
> >> the
> >> BIOS verision 1.7 required to install Vista,
> >>
> >> the release version of Vista incorrectly reports the need to update the
> >> BIOS
> >> to 1.7 prior to installation.
> >>
> >> 10/10 people who help regularly on these groups (you aren't one) would
> >> read
> >> your OP that you are running into a snag when you try to install Vista.
> >> I
> >> didn't make any post to you regarding Win XP. I just made the point that
> >> a
> >> few hundered thousand Vista users that included TBTs, MSDN, Technet, CPP,
> >> and TAP users were able to use every build of Vista from July 05 through
> >> RTM
> >> without touching a bios update on every form factor on the planet.
> >>
> >> Other than that--I'd read up on How to Ask A Question
> >>
> >> www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> >>
> >> There is an old adage mommy didn't teach you, so crawl back up on her
> >> knee
> >> and see if you can get burped. "Don't **** on potential help--it's not
> >> going to get your question answered."
> >>
> >> I have no trouble setting up Vista on any machine someone can show me..
> >> Obviously you have a problem and the bigger one in the way of solving it
> >> is
> >> you.
> >>
> >> CH
> >>
> >>
> >> "Chad Harris" <getsomevistainfoout.net> wrote in message
> >> news:...
> >> >I don't know what Bios version is required for the Tecra M4 to install
> >> >Vista. I've been able to install any build of Vista Bios that was
> >> >updated
> >> >for XP but not Vista, because there has been no Vista update offered,
> >> >and
> >> >so have a couple hundred thousand or more other people.
> >> >
> >> > Are you installing from a DVD start or from the XP desktop? If you are
> >> > installing from the XP desktop, try installing via a restart.
> >> >
> >> > CH
> >> >
> >> > "ilv-m" <> wrote in message
> >> > news:793F59C3-E006-4EFE-8AD0-...
> >> >> On a Toshiba Tecra M4, that is already running Vista RC1 and already
> >> >> has
> >> >> the
> >> >> BIOS verision 1.7 required to install Vista,
> >> >>
> >> >> the release version of Vista incorrectly reports the need to update
> >> >> the
> >> >> BIOS
> >> >> to 1.7 prior to installation.
> >> >>
> >> >> How can this defect in the Vista Ultimate release version installer be
> >> >> bypassed?
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

Thanks for mentioning BIOS 3.1.0.

We have been aware of the update. The drivers that we use with Vista RC1 on
the Tecra came from the same vicinity on the Toshiba support web site.

Our concern here is more general to find a solid work-around to Microsoft's
VISTA BIOS check so that it does not trip up customer upgrades the same way
that it has annoyed us with a contradictory error message on the Toshiba
Tecra. We have reviewed significant instances of similar experiences on the
internet with the erroneous BIOS check problem that forced people to scrap
their current Windows Vista setup and start all over again with a clean
install. For many customer, it just isn't work the cost & the requirement for
an install from scratch becomes an abort for a wave of OS upgrades.

If no one in the various places we are looking provides a work-around for
Vista's BIOS check that works during an upgrade install, we will be
installing that BIOS update and proceeding.

If even that doesn't work, we know that a clean install booting from the
Vista install DVD will bypass the silly BIOS check. It's crazy for Microsoft
to be so picky for in-place upgrades when letting installs sail past any
checking on a clear install. If any BIOS really is a problem, then they
should be checking the same way in both cases.

The fact that the BIOS check approves installs when booting from DVD seems
to indicate that Vista's upgrade installer that must run under an existing
Windows instance is tripping over itself. The fact that the BIOS check
produces a contradictory error message is further evidence that it was never
able to make a proper evaluation of the BIOS revision while running under an
existing Windows instance, so in that case, the BIOS check is programmed to
assume an invalid BIOS version.

Clearly, that approach is defective since it causes customers with
completely up-to-date equipment a bunch of unnecessary problems.



"Jeffrey W. Roach" wrote:

> Have you tried Toshiba's update to 3.1.0? Its for Vista, RTM is looking for
> it...
>
> http://www.csdsupport.toshiba.com/ta...les&model_id=1
>
> HTH,
>
>
> Jeff
>
>
> "ilv-m" <> wrote in message
> news:9E8F29D7-057D-4ED4-B2F2-...
> > As previously stated, the release version of Vista Ultimate will not
> > install
> > due to its incorrect BIOS check step. Once Vista decides it has
> > encountered a
> > BIOS that it doesn't like, even if that determination contradicts Vista's
> > own
> > error message text, the installation quits.
> >
> > To recap, Vista RC1 already in place.
> > When installing update to Vista Ultimate final release, the final release
> > version says that it needs BIOS 1.7 to proceed.
> > However, BIOS 1.7 is already in place because I had to have it in place to
> > get Vista RC1 onto the machine.
> > Therefore, the BIOS check in production Vista is buggy and I still need a
> > work-around.
> >
> > I have carefully read all of the posts regarding BIOS and Vista on this
> > forum, and the only work-around to Microsoft's stupid BIOS check mess that
> > I
> > have found is a full clean install of Vista from the boot DVD. I have done
> > that also in the past to work around the BIOS check message that seems to
> > only come when trying to run the upgrade. Since I want to upgrade and not
> > do
> > the clean install, I still need a new work-around that no one has yet
> > posted
> > anywhere that I've looked on the Internet for the past 3 days.
> >
> > Microsoft should have provided a command line switch on setup.exe to
> > bypass
> > the BIOS check for those who are willing to risk that their warning is
> > wrong.
> >
> > "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
> >
> >> Just install and see if there really is a problem. If you are not
> >> comfortable doing that then contact the manufacturer to confirm that 1.7
> >> will support Vista. The BIOS is OS agnostic anyway.
> >>
> >> "ilv-m" <> wrote in message
> >> news:8A5C02D0-9C98-4F48-B851-...
> >> > as stated, I do already have the correct BIOS installed on the Tecra,
> >> > since I
> >> > do already have Vista RC1 installed.
> >> >
> >> > Statements about Windows XP are pointless since that is not the issue
> >> > and
> >> > I
> >> > never had any problems with XP either.
> >> >
> >> > Vista does have new problems/bugs.
> >> >
> >> > One of them is this stupid problem where it says I don't have the 1.7
> >> > version of the BIOS even though I most certainly do.
> >> >
> >> > Please only offer help if you KNOW what you are talking about.
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
>
>

Vista's installer spits out the BIOS check dialogs that are system-specific.

The BIOS check system works correctly for clean installs from DVD boot
media, but malfunctions during upgrade installs.

Is it so hard to understand why we would want the option to bypass a faulty
function like that?

Since you don't have a similar system on hand, you would never have
encountered the same error message because the same condition would not have
been present for your Vista installations.

So kindly wipe the rabid foam from your mouth.
You erred. So what. Get over it.

"Chad Harris" wrote:

> "According to Vista RC1, the BIOS message on Vista Ultimate release rev, &
> Toshiba"
>
> "The final release version says that it needs BIOS 1.7 to proceed."
>
> Really? Where does RTM "say" this?
>
>
> Well then, coupled with the quintissentially competent peers you work with,
> this should have never been a problem.
>
> You are going to continue to have this problem well into the Blackcomb Beta
> time frame as goofily as you are dealiing with it. LOL And I'm enjoying
> every minute of your problem.
>
> It's just the tip of the iceberg in a panoply of problems in your life.
>
> LOL
>
> CH
>
> "ilv-m" <> wrote in message
> news:71B88DC9-0A1B-4EF7-83A7-...
> > For this Tecra M4, allowing Vista to control PnP worked fine for Vista
> > RC1.
> >
> > According to Vista RC1, the BIOS message on Vista Ultimate release rev, &
> > Toshiba, all stipulate that Tecra M4 BIOS 1.7 supports Vista.
> >
> > All other systems updated from RC1 to Vista Ultimate-released went very,
> > very smoothly.
> >
> > This Tecra M4 tablet PC with Pentium M, PCI-Express, SATA HDD, 2GB RAM,
> > 1440x1050 LCD--is the one and only system where we experienced any issue
> > with
> > Vista at all--and it's only this final step of getting the release version
> > of
> > SETUP to proceed with bumping it from RC1 to the release revision.
> >
> > We even had Beta2 running very smoothly on this same Tecra.
> >
> >
> > "FireWall2" wrote:
> >
> >> ilv-m,
> >>
> >> By chance, does your BIOS provide the Option for allowing the BIOS
> >> install
> >> all Plug and Play devices?
> >>
> >> If so, verify the BIOS is set to Default, allowing BIOS install PnP, not
> >> Vista. Makes installing Vista much smoother, preventing device conflicts.
> >>
> >> The above is conditional that indeed your BIOS is Vista Compatible. Also,
> >> verify which Drive is set as first Boot Drive, should be CD / DVD.
> >> --
> >> Firewall
> >>
> >> Disclaimer:
> >> Accept Vista as it is, or, Abandon Vista
> >>
> >>
> >> "ilv-m" wrote:
> >>
> >> > On a Toshiba Tecra M4, that is already running Vista RC1 and already
> >> > has the
> >> > BIOS verision 1.7 required to install Vista,
> >> >
> >> > the release version of Vista incorrectly reports the need to update the
> >> > BIOS
> >> > to 1.7 prior to installation.
> >> >
> >> > How can this defect in the Vista Ultimate release version installer be
> >> > bypassed?
> >> >
>
>
>

ilv-m,

Below a quote from you:
"For this Tecra M4, allowing Vista to control PnP worked fine for Vista RC1.

According to Vista RC1, the BIOS message on Vista Ultimate release rev, &
Toshiba, all stipulate that Tecra M4 BIOS 1.7 supports Vista.

All other systems updated from RC1 to Vista Ultimate-released went very,
very smoothly. "
***************************************

The diference, today you are describing new not-before experienced conflicts.

Vista, continueouslly improves, what worked with RC 1 may not function with
the current Vista release, just a thought from experience.

Respectfully,
--
Life is Wonderful !


"ilv-m" wrote:

> For this Tecra M4, allowing Vista to control PnP worked fine for Vista RC1.
>
> According to Vista RC1, the BIOS message on Vista Ultimate release rev, &
> Toshiba, all stipulate that Tecra M4 BIOS 1.7 supports Vista.
>
> All other systems updated from RC1 to Vista Ultimate-released went very,
> very smoothly.
>
> This Tecra M4 tablet PC with Pentium M, PCI-Express, SATA HDD, 2GB RAM,
> 1440x1050 LCD--is the one and only system where we experienced any issue with
> Vista at all--and it's only this final step of getting the release version of
> SETUP to proceed with bumping it from RC1 to the release revision.
>
> We even had Beta2 running very smoothly on this same Tecra.
>
>
> "FireWall2" wrote:
>
> > ilv-m,
> >
> > By chance, does your BIOS provide the Option for allowing the BIOS install
> > all Plug and Play devices?
> >
> > If so, verify the BIOS is set to Default, allowing BIOS install PnP, not
> > Vista. Makes installing Vista much smoother, preventing device conflicts.
> >
> > The above is conditional that indeed your BIOS is Vista Compatible. Also,
> > verify which Drive is set as first Boot Drive, should be CD / DVD.
> > --
> > Firewall
> >
> > Disclaimer:
> > Accept Vista as it is, or, Abandon Vista
> >
> >
> > "ilv-m" wrote:
> >
> > > On a Toshiba Tecra M4, that is already running Vista RC1 and already has the
> > > BIOS verision 1.7 required to install Vista,
> > >
> > > the release version of Vista incorrectly reports the need to update the BIOS
> > > to 1.7 prior to installation.
> > >
> > > How can this defect in the Vista Ultimate release version installer be
> > > bypassed?
> > >

Chad,

Just a thought for you pondering, *not* advice, will you consider loosening
your cork just a bit, in respect to your current Post?

Again, just asking, not offering advice.

All your previous Posts fully define your factual knowledge, specifically
regarding Vista !

Respectfully,
--
Life is Wonderful !


"Chad Harris" wrote:

>
> Why you no take it here or some tablet forum or some tecra forum or Toshiba
> support or your superlative every day collegues?
>
> microsoft.public.windows.tabletpc via NNTP Win Mail/OE
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/micro...c/topics?hl=en
> via html and the web
>
> CH
>
> "ilv-m" <> wrote in message
> news:71B88DC9-0A1B-4EF7-83A7-...
> > For this Tecra M4, allowing Vista to control PnP worked fine for Vista
> > RC1.
> >
> > According to Vista RC1, the BIOS message on Vista Ultimate release rev, &
> > Toshiba, all stipulate that Tecra M4 BIOS 1.7 supports Vista.
> >
> > All other systems updated from RC1 to Vista Ultimate-released went very,
> > very smoothly.
> >
> > This Tecra M4 tablet PC with Pentium M, PCI-Express, SATA HDD, 2GB RAM,
> > 1440x1050 LCD--is the one and only system where we experienced any issue
> > with
> > Vista at all--and it's only this final step of getting the release version
> > of
> > SETUP to proceed with bumping it from RC1 to the release revision.
> >
> > We even had Beta2 running very smoothly on this same Tecra.
> >
> >
> > "FireWall2" wrote:
> >
> >> ilv-m,
> >>
> >> By chance, does your BIOS provide the Option for allowing the BIOS
> >> install
> >> all Plug and Play devices?
> >>
> >> If so, verify the BIOS is set to Default, allowing BIOS install PnP, not
> >> Vista. Makes installing Vista much smoother, preventing device conflicts.
> >>
> >> The above is conditional that indeed your BIOS is Vista Compatible. Also,
> >> verify which Drive is set as first Boot Drive, should be CD / DVD.
> >> --
> >> Firewall
> >>
> >> Disclaimer:
> >> Accept Vista as it is, or, Abandon Vista
> >>
> >>
> >> "ilv-m" wrote:
> >>
> >> > On a Toshiba Tecra M4, that is already running Vista RC1 and already
> >> > has the
> >> > BIOS verision 1.7 required to install Vista,
> >> >
> >> > the release version of Vista incorrectly reports the need to update the
> >> > BIOS
> >> > to 1.7 prior to installation.
> >> >
> >> > How can this defect in the Vista Ultimate release version installer be
> >> > bypassed?
> >> >
>
>
>

Just as we suspected, Toshiba has withdrawn the very BIOS update that Vista
requires to install on the Tecra M4. They have no ETA on when a stable BIOS
update that supports Vista will become available.

So even though Toshiba claims to support Vista on the Tecra M4, and Toshiba
claims that the BIOS 1.7 that is already installed does support Vista RTM,
there is no way to get the Vista RTM installed until there is a way to bypass
the defective code in Vista RTM installer that says it needs BIOS later than
1.7--which does not exist as of now.

Thanks so much Microsoft!

"Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote:

> Download and install the latest BIOS update (version 3.1.0) available from Toshiba:
> http://www.csdsupport.toshiba.com/ta...les&model_id=1
>
> --
> Carey Frisch
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Shell/User
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "ilv-m" wrote:
>
> On a Toshiba Tecra M4, that is already running Vista RC1 and already has the
> BIOS verision 1.7 required to install Vista,
>
> the release version of Vista incorrectly reports the need to update the BIOS
> to 1.7 prior to installation.
>
> How can this defect in the Vista Ultimate release version installer be
> bypassed?
>

....And as a result of the stupid BIOS check BUG in RTM Windows Vista, it
became necessary to finally wipe down our test-bed Toshiba Tecra M4 and
install Vista Ultimate from scratch off our Microsoft partner distribution.

It only took 5 hours to get our testing environment back to what it was with
Vista RC1. At least the upgrades from RC1 to RTM went smoothly on all the
other testing systems.

On upgrade, Vista claims that the BIOS >>can't<< work, but on boot from the
distro DVD, it doesn't care, installs perfectly, and runs perfectly. How
unbelievably stupid. Please Vista developers, do get a clue!

Is it any wonder that only a small fraction of Windows customers chose to
upgrade their PCs to newer Windows releases. Microsoft has only themselves
to blame given all of the completely unecessary trouble they have caused
their upgrading customers.

"ilv-m" <> wrote in message
news:C2052273-0DBF-4F75-855B-...
> Just as we suspected, Toshiba has withdrawn the very BIOS update that
> Vista
> requires to install on the Tecra M4. They have no ETA on when a stable
> BIOS
> update that supports Vista will become available.
>
> So even though Toshiba claims to support Vista on the Tecra M4, and
> Toshiba
> claims that the BIOS 1.7 that is already installed does support Vista
> RTM,
> there is no way to get the Vista RTM installed until there is a way to
> bypass
> the defective code in Vista RTM installer that says it needs BIOS later
> than
> 1.7--which does not exist as of now.
>
> Thanks so much Microsoft!
>
> "Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote:
>
>> Download and install the latest BIOS update (version 3.1.0) available
>> from Toshiba:
>> http://www.csdsupport.toshiba.com/ta...les&model_id=1
>>
>> --
>> Carey Frisch
>> Microsoft MVP
>> Windows Shell/User
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> "ilv-m" wrote:
>>
>> On a Toshiba Tecra M4, that is already running Vista RC1 and already has
>> the
>> BIOS verision 1.7 required to install Vista,
>>
>> the release version of Vista incorrectly reports the need to update the
>> BIOS
>> to 1.7 prior to installation.
>>
>> How can this defect in the Vista Ultimate release version installer be
>> bypassed?
>>