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Haz
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      12-27-2004
Am attempting to upgrade a win98se to win xp. Comp was previously
completely screwed up.including a passworded BIOS and partitioned HD.
Dealer (Compac) will not give us the BIOS password - supposed to pay him
$100 every time he gets his hands on the it.

HD was partitioned into C and D. Reformated C:, reinstalled bare bones
win98se, then installed winxp upgrade. Hung at the last 5 minutes of the
install. Now we get error message "following file is missing or corrupt -
Windows\inf\biosinfo.inf" followed by ". . . enter 'r at first screen to
repair" - but it doesn't.

Anyway to find the bios password in the registry (also, how do I get to the
registry - don't have an operating system at the moment)?

Any other suggestions greatfully accepted.

Thx Haz





 
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Shenan Stanley
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      12-27-2004
Haz wrote:
> Am attempting to upgrade a win98se to win xp. Comp was previously
> completely screwed up.including a passworded BIOS and partitioned HD.
> Dealer (Compac) will not give us the BIOS password - supposed to pay
> him $100 every time he gets his hands on the it.
>
> HD was partitioned into C and D. Reformated C:, reinstalled bare
> bones win98se, then installed winxp upgrade. Hung at the last 5
> minutes of the install. Now we get error message "following file is
> missing or corrupt - Windows\inf\biosinfo.inf" followed by ". . .
> enter 'r at first screen to repair" - but it doesn't.
>
> Anyway to find the bios password in the registry (also, how do I get
> to the registry - don't have an operating system at the moment)?
>
> Any other suggestions greatfully accepted.


BIOS password = hardware.. Nothing to do with Windows.
- Remove the battery on the motherboard for a few hours.
- Check the manual for your system for a jumper to reset the BIOS.
- Report the Compaq technician to the BBB.

Quick search on the web for "Reset Compaq BIOS" came back with these:
- http://www.sysopt.com/forum/printthr...hreadid=162641
- http://www.tech-faq.com/computers/re...password.shtml
- http://kozee.tweakdoctor.com/bios/
- http://www.cibecue.com/bypass_bios_passwords.htm
-
http://techrepublic.com.com/5208-624...ssageID=498655

Next time, just install Windows XP clean. Boot with the XP CD, follow the
prompts, it should ask for qualifying media during the install - just put in
the Windows 98 CD when it asks.

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      12-27-2004


"Shenan Stanley" wrote:

> Haz wrote:
> > Am attempting to upgrade a win98se to win xp. Comp was previously
> > completely screwed up.including a passworded BIOS and partitioned HD.
> > Dealer (Compac) will not give us the BIOS password - supposed to pay
> > him $100 every time he gets his hands on the it.
> >
> > HD was partitioned into C and D. Reformated C:, reinstalled bare
> > bones win98se, then installed winxp upgrade. Hung at the last 5
> > minutes of the install. Now we get error message "following file is
> > missing or corrupt - Windows\inf\biosinfo.inf" followed by ". . .
> > enter 'r at first screen to repair" - but it doesn't.
> >
> > Anyway to find the bios password in the registry (also, how do I get
> > to the registry - don't have an operating system at the moment)?
> >
> > Any other suggestions greatfully accepted.

>
> BIOS password = hardware.. Nothing to do with Windows.
> - Remove the battery on the motherboard for a few hours.
> - Check the manual for your system for a jumper to reset the BIOS.
> - Report the Compaq technician to the BBB.
>
> Quick search on the web for "Reset Compaq BIOS" came back with these:
> - http://www.sysopt.com/forum/printthr...hreadid=162641
> - http://www.tech-faq.com/computers/re...password.shtml
> - http://kozee.tweakdoctor.com/bios/
> - http://www.cibecue.com/bypass_bios_passwords.htm
> -
> http://techrepublic.com.com/5208-624...ssageID=498655
>
> Next time, just install Windows XP clean. Boot with the XP CD, follow the
> prompts, it should ask for qualifying media during the install - just put in
> the Windows 98 CD when it asks.
>
> --
> <- Shenan ->
> --
> The information is provided "as is", it is suggested you research for
> yourself before you take any advice - you are the one ultimately
> responsible for your actions/problems/solutions. Know what you are
> getting into before you jump in with both feet.
>
>
>

 
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Truth_Seeker1
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      12-27-2004

"Shenan Stanley" <> wrote in message
news:%...
> Haz wrote:
> Next time, just install Windows XP clean. Boot with the XP CD, follow the
> prompts, it should ask for qualifying media during the install - just put
> in the Windows 98 CD when it asks.
>


I agree. I once performed an upgrade from '98 to XP. It was unstable; when
I installed XP a second time, this time fresh, it was much more stable. If
you can find XP-compatible drivers for all of the hardware inside your PC,
and can be sure that all the software you use is XP-compatible, then this is
*definitely* the best way to go.
Drew


 
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      12-28-2004
Success - thanks to all we're in business

But (there's always something else) - turns out we have a 120 gig HD.

This is a very occasional user, not into anything specific (photos, music,
etc.), mostly email contacts. I set his file system at FAT32, and removed
all partitions., and am now having second thoughts. Should I set up a
little more reasonable partition (25-40 gig?) for general use, and if so
should it be FAT 32 or NTFS?

I can do that, although I am fast approaching the "getting in over my head"
status myself. Would use 'diskpart' unless there is a better way.

Great site - great help - and it is much appreciated.

Hope everyone is heading for a great New Year.

Haz


 
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Shenan Stanley
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      12-28-2004
Haz wrote:
> Success - thanks to all we're in business
>
> But (there's always something else) - turns out we have a 120 gig HD.
>
> This is a very occasional user, not into anything specific (photos,
> music, etc.), mostly email contacts. I set his file system at FAT32,
> and removed all partitions., and am now having second thoughts. Should I
> set up a little more reasonable partition (25-40 gig?) for
> general use, and if so should it be FAT 32 or NTFS?
>
> I can do that, although I am fast approaching the "getting in over my
> head" status myself. Would use 'diskpart' unless there is a better
> way.
> Great site - great help - and it is much appreciated.


If you installed Windows XP clean - you want to use NTFS or you will need to
use an external application to format anything larger than 32GB. Windows
XP, although it can utilize larger than 32GB FAT32 partitions - cannot
natively format them.

Reasonable user or not - if they have 120GB of space - let them have it all.

As far as how to partition that - it is a matter of opinion.

Some will tell you Partitions it so that all system files/applications are
installed on one partitions (C:\) and all personal files (documents, music,
pictures, etc) are stored on another and set your swap file to the second
partition for slightly better performance. Having one partition for
system/program files will allow you to reinstall by wiping that partition
and leaving the data one intact.

Some will tell you that they have three partitions - one for system files,
one for program files (installs) and a third for all personal files
(data) -- this one is the hardest for me to understand - as Windows XP will
not "pickup" on the program files partition if you reinstall the first
partition of the system files - meaning you will have to reinstall 90% of
your applications again anyway. And being the same physical drive, any
performance gain you get from such a setup is minimal - as the limitations
of IDE state you can only READ or WRITE to the drive at any given point -
not both (simultaneous) - so if you are reading from partition 1, that's the
only thing going on that nanosecond..

Some will tell you just to format it one large partition - everything in one
place. This is my opinion because I am not a big believer in reinstalling
anyway and if the hardware goes bad - it's not likely to matter how many
partitions you had - it's still one physical drive - it goes bad, all
partitions could be lost.

I personally would suggest NTFS in most cases - because of the extra
security features and stability. Others (and not incorrectly) will suggest
FAT32 because if something does go wrong and the system will not boot - you
can boot from a Windows 98 floppy disk and see everyhting on the system -
even copy it. NTFS is a bit harder to do this with, but with tools like the
"Ultimate Boot CD" and BartPE, this is getting to be a moot argument to me..
You have more ability to get your data off any file system with those two
CDs than ever before.

Again - which partitions scheme you choose and what file system you choose
is entirely up to you. However - in order to format larger than 32GB - you
will have to use either a Windows 98 floppy disk before installing XP or
some other tool after to create the other partitions. If you already have
Windows XP installed on one partition of the 120GB (say a 32GB C:\ drive) -
then you could format the rest using NTFS or FAT32 with a utility like:
http://www.mager.org/mkdosfs/

Otherwise you will have to use some third party tool like Partition Magic to
change anything without damaging what you have done so far.

My personal opinion:

A Clean Installation of Windows XP with one or two partitions. If one
partition, NTFS - all 120GB. If two partitions, NTFS - 40GB/80GB.

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Haz
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      12-28-2004
Shenan -

Very informative - I see what you are saying -

Briefly, what I did is as follows (starting with a completely screwed up
comp)- formatted the C drive to clean everything out. Installed bare bones
Win98SE. During that process, message said something about improper
partition and other problems, did I want to remove partitions and reformat.
Sure. Very slow, but went OK.. Somewhere in here it asked about
FAT32/NTFS. I elected FAT32 - based on very little other than my own WinXP
system is FAT 32 (but 40 gig HD)
Anyway, then 'upgraded' 98 to XP and it worked fine.

At last - my question. You mentioned FAT32 might not format anything over
32 gig. If I leave it as is, do I have the balance of the 120 gig
formatted, or is it some kind of twilight zone.

BTW, I assume leaving the HD as one 120 gig partition means it should be
defragged a little more often that otherwise. Does that make sense?

Thank you again - terrific help.

Haz


 
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