Bits - revisited

Win2k sp4, Bits2 files versions verified.
Bits service manual, dependencies all automatic, and started.
Nothing helpfull in Event Viewer
An *intermittent problem*:
Automatic updates (download & notify) doesn't function.
A manual update runs, finds critical updates (Dec 12th), but installation
fails on all with a service not started.
In services, start the Bits service, re run update and all install
correctly.(auto update functions also)
Any insights?
TY

I know that one of the changes to AU was having BITS set to Automatic in
services. Try leaving it as Automatic and see if everything works.

I know there is a key in the registry:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\SvcHost

In the right panel, you should see BITSGroup set to BITS, and wugroup set to
wuauserv.
These both are REG_MULTI_SZ types.

On W2K, you will need to use regedt32

These match the names of the keys under
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\SvcHost

"DL" <address@invalid> wrote in message
news:...
> Win2k sp4, Bits2 files versions verified.
> Bits service manual, dependencies all automatic, and started.
> Nothing helpfull in Event Viewer
> An *intermittent problem*:
> Automatic updates (download & notify) doesn't function.
> A manual update runs, finds critical updates (Dec 12th), but installation
> fails on all with a service not started.
> In services, start the Bits service, re run update and all install
> correctly.(auto update functions also)
> Any insights?
> TY
>
>

My registry appears to match the settings given

"NewScience" <> wrote in message
news:%...
> I know that one of the changes to AU was having BITS set to Automatic in
> services. Try leaving it as Automatic and see if everything works.
>
> I know there is a key in the registry:
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\SvcHost
>
> In the right panel, you should see BITSGroup set to BITS, and wugroup set
to
> wuauserv.
> These both are REG_MULTI_SZ types.
>
> On W2K, you will need to use regedt32
>
> These match the names of the keys under
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\SvcHost
>
> "DL" <address@invalid> wrote in message
> news:...
> > Win2k sp4, Bits2 files versions verified.
> > Bits service manual, dependencies all automatic, and started.
> > Nothing helpfull in Event Viewer
> > An *intermittent problem*:
> > Automatic updates (download & notify) doesn't function.
> > A manual update runs, finds critical updates (Dec 12th), but
installation
> > fails on all with a service not started.
> > In services, start the Bits service, re run update and all install
> > correctly.(auto update functions also)
> > Any insights?
> > TY
> >
> >
>
>

Leave BITS Service as Automatic and at next reboot, check for Event Viewer
log errors.

"DL" <address@invalid> wrote in message
news:...
> My registry appears to match the settings given
>
> "NewScience" <> wrote in message
> news:%...
>> I know that one of the changes to AU was having BITS set to Automatic in
>> services. Try leaving it as Automatic and see if everything works.
>>
>> I know there is a key in the registry:
>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\SvcHost
>>
>> In the right panel, you should see BITSGroup set to BITS, and wugroup set
> to
>> wuauserv.
>> These both are REG_MULTI_SZ types.
>>
>> On W2K, you will need to use regedt32
>>
>> These match the names of the keys under
>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\SvcHost
>>
>> "DL" <address@invalid> wrote in message
>> news:...
>> > Win2k sp4, Bits2 files versions verified.
>> > Bits service manual, dependencies all automatic, and started.
>> > Nothing helpfull in Event Viewer
>> > An *intermittent problem*:
>> > Automatic updates (download & notify) doesn't function.
>> > A manual update runs, finds critical updates (Dec 12th), but
> installation
>> > fails on all with a service not started.
>> > In services, start the Bits service, re run update and all install
>> > correctly.(auto update functions also)
>> > Any insights?
>> > TY
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

No Event errs either before or after (Failed update)

"NewScience" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Leave BITS Service as Automatic and at next reboot, check for Event Viewer
> log errors.
>
> "DL" <address@invalid> wrote in message
> news:...
> > My registry appears to match the settings given
> >
> > "NewScience" <> wrote in message
> > news:%...
> >> I know that one of the changes to AU was having BITS set to Automatic
in
> >> services. Try leaving it as Automatic and see if everything works.
> >>
> >> I know there is a key in the registry:
> >> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\SvcHost
> >>
> >> In the right panel, you should see BITSGroup set to BITS, and wugroup
set
> > to
> >> wuauserv.
> >> These both are REG_MULTI_SZ types.
> >>
> >> On W2K, you will need to use regedt32
> >>
> >> These match the names of the keys under
> >> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\SvcHost
> >>
> >> "DL" <address@invalid> wrote in message
> >> news:...
> >> > Win2k sp4, Bits2 files versions verified.
> >> > Bits service manual, dependencies all automatic, and started.
> >> > Nothing helpfull in Event Viewer
> >> > An *intermittent problem*:
> >> > Automatic updates (download & notify) doesn't function.
> >> > A manual update runs, finds critical updates (Dec 12th), but
> > installation
> >> > fails on all with a service not started.
> >> > In services, start the Bits service, re run update and all install
> >> > correctly.(auto update functions also)
> >> > Any insights?
> >> > TY
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

"DL" <address@invalid> wrote in message
news:...
> Win2k sp4, Bits2 files versions verified.
> Bits service manual, dependencies all automatic, and started.
> Nothing helpfull in Event Viewer
> An *intermittent problem*:
> Automatic updates (download & notify) doesn't function.
> A manual update runs, finds critical updates (Dec 12th), but installation
> fails on all with a service not started.
> In services, start the Bits service, re run update and all install
> correctly.(auto update functions also)
> Any insights?


Where are you seeing these symptoms?
What specifically is showing in WindowsUpdate.log to document them?

BTW notice that BITS has a service dependency (RPCSS).

In XP Pro I can use bitsadmin /util command.
I don't know if your OS has a similar tool or not.


> TY


HTH

Robert Aldwinckle
---

It wasn't very clear from your post below whether the BITS service is not
starting or not. Could you please answer the following:

1. Is the BITS service running fine?
2. If not, do you get any error when you manually start it?
net start BITS
3. Please copy sc.exe from an XP machine to the win2k machine and run the
following command and post the output:

sc.exe qc bits
sc.exe queryex bits
sc.exe sdshow bits

--
Narayana Mahankali
Microsoft, BITS

This posting is provided "As Is" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
Use of included script samples are subject to the terms specified at
http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm
"DL" <address@invalid> wrote in message
news:%...
> No Event errs either before or after (Failed update)
>
> "NewScience" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Leave BITS Service as Automatic and at next reboot, check for Event
>> Viewer
>> log errors.
>>
>> "DL" <address@invalid> wrote in message
>> news:...
>> > My registry appears to match the settings given
>> >
>> > "NewScience" <> wrote in message
>> > news:%...
>> >> I know that one of the changes to AU was having BITS set to Automatic
> in
>> >> services. Try leaving it as Automatic and see if everything works.
>> >>
>> >> I know there is a key in the registry:
>> >> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows
>> >> NT\CurrentVersion\SvcHost
>> >>
>> >> In the right panel, you should see BITSGroup set to BITS, and wugroup
> set
>> > to
>> >> wuauserv.
>> >> These both are REG_MULTI_SZ types.
>> >>
>> >> On W2K, you will need to use regedt32
>> >>
>> >> These match the names of the keys under
>> >> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows
>> >> NT\CurrentVersion\SvcHost
>> >>
>> >> "DL" <address@invalid> wrote in message
>> >> news:...
>> >> > Win2k sp4, Bits2 files versions verified.
>> >> > Bits service manual, dependencies all automatic, and started.
>> >> > Nothing helpfull in Event Viewer
>> >> > An *intermittent problem*:
>> >> > Automatic updates (download & notify) doesn't function.
>> >> > A manual update runs, finds critical updates (Dec 12th), but
>> > installation
>> >> > fails on all with a service not started.
>> >> > In services, start the Bits service, re run update and all install
>> >> > correctly.(auto update functions also)
>> >> > Any insights?
>> >> > TY
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

1)The Bits service is set to manual
2)There is no err when I manually start
3)Will try this later today

"Narayana Mahankali [MSFT]" <> wrote in message
news:11E566A0-C3ED-4807-A08E-...
> It wasn't very clear from your post below whether the BITS service is not
> starting or not. Could you please answer the following:
>
> 1. Is the BITS service running fine?
> 2. If not, do you get any error when you manually start it?
> net start BITS
> 3. Please copy sc.exe from an XP machine to the win2k machine and run the
> following command and post the output:
>
> sc.exe qc bits
> sc.exe queryex bits
> sc.exe sdshow bits
>
> --
> Narayana Mahankali
> Microsoft, BITS
>
> This posting is provided "As Is" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.
> Use of included script samples are subject to the terms specified at
> http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm
> "DL" <address@invalid> wrote in message
> news:%...
> > No Event errs either before or after (Failed update)
> >
> > "NewScience" <> wrote in message
> > news:...
> >> Leave BITS Service as Automatic and at next reboot, check for Event
> >> Viewer
> >> log errors.
> >>
> >> "DL" <address@invalid> wrote in message
> >> news:...
> >> > My registry appears to match the settings given
> >> >
> >> > "NewScience" <> wrote in message
> >> > news:%...
> >> >> I know that one of the changes to AU was having BITS set to
Automatic
> > in
> >> >> services. Try leaving it as Automatic and see if everything works.
> >> >>
> >> >> I know there is a key in the registry:
> >> >> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows
> >> >> NT\CurrentVersion\SvcHost
> >> >>
> >> >> In the right panel, you should see BITSGroup set to BITS, and
wugroup
> > set
> >> > to
> >> >> wuauserv.
> >> >> These both are REG_MULTI_SZ types.
> >> >>
> >> >> On W2K, you will need to use regedt32
> >> >>
> >> >> These match the names of the keys under
> >> >> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows
> >> >> NT\CurrentVersion\SvcHost
> >> >>
> >> >> "DL" <address@invalid> wrote in message
> >> >> news:...
> >> >> > Win2k sp4, Bits2 files versions verified.
> >> >> > Bits service manual, dependencies all automatic, and started.
> >> >> > Nothing helpfull in Event Viewer
> >> >> > An *intermittent problem*:
> >> >> > Automatic updates (download & notify) doesn't function.
> >> >> > A manual update runs, finds critical updates (Dec 12th), but
> >> > installation
> >> >> > fails on all with a service not started.
> >> >> > In services, start the Bits service, re run update and all install
> >> >> > correctly.(auto update functions also)
> >> >> > Any insights?
> >> >> > TY
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>