Black screen on bootup after scrolling bar

Hello

*Intel CORE2 Quad Q945
*ASUS P5Q Pro (BIOS 0506
*US Robotics Wireless MAXg PCI card installed mysel
*5 USB devices plugged i
*MSI Radeon R4870 OC Edition (installed Catalyst Software Suite (6
Bit) v8.8
*Windows Vista Business x64 SP

Above some of the hardware or software that in my opinion could caus
the problem below

On a cold boot my computer always gives a black screen just after th
scrolling bar disappears. I don't see a mouse cursor nor do I see th
Vista startup logo

When I press the reset button on my computer it boots normally
Sometimes I have to reset several times before the computer shows th
Vista login screen. Once I see the login screen I have no furthe
problems

The Processor is overclocked but the problem was also there before th
overclock..

Can someone help me with this

Kind regards

EvaQ

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EvaQ8

Hi EvaQ8 ... welcome to the forums

you say your CPU is overclocked what about you RAM...
under volted RAM can cause the system to hang unpredictabl

if its not that the 8.8 drivers are brand new & are causing a fe
issues at the moment
you might try an earlier driver to rule it out as a possibilit

also you might try & run the system without this installe
US Robotics Wireless MAXg PCI car
PCI cards can also cause issues

what PSU are you using ...
you said the system runs fine once it boots ...have you stress teste
it..
:

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skunksmas

E2180 @ 3.2ghz
arctic cooler pro 775
4GB gskill HZ @ 1050mhz
Asus P5K premium
160GB seagate 7200
coloursit 600w psu
PNY 8800GT 512mb

skunksmash;816757 Wrote:
> Hi EvaQ8 ... welcome to the forums
>
> you say your CPU is overclocked what about you RAM...
> under volted RAM can cause the system to hang unpredictabl
>
> if its not that the 8.8 drivers are brand new & are causing a fe
> issues at the moment
> you might try an earlier driver to rule it out as a possibilit
>
> also you might try & run the system without this installe
> US Robotics Wireless MAXg PCI car
> PCI cards can also cause issues
>
> what PSU are you using ...
> you said the system runs fine once it boots ...have you stress teste
> it..
> :

* I added a signature with my sytem spec

* I have DDR2 PC6400 ValueRam which is running @ 801 Mhz (DRAM is 1:
with FSB which is at 400Mhz

* I will try the driver from the MSI website (maybe because I have th
OC edition of the R4870 the ATI driver has problems with my graphic
card?). Or it might just be the new ATI driver that has some issues

* would be weird if the PCI card caused the problem. I'll take it ou
when nothing alse works

* PSU is a Corsair HX620 (=620W

* The system is stress tested for 12h with Prime95 v25.6 and the temp
stay below 60 °C on all cores using a TjMax of 100 °C (monitoring bot
with RealTemp 2.7 and CoreTemp 0.99.2). CPU Voltage set in the BIOS i
1.2V

--> personally I don't think the overclock has anything to do with th
proble

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EvaQ

*intel core2 quad q9450 @ 3.2 ghz, 1.2v :: scythe mugen (infinity) :
asus p5q pro :: 4096 mb ddr2 pc6400 :: msi radeon r4870 oc edition :
3.75 tb hdd :: antec p182 :: corsair hx620 psu :: philips 20\" lcd :
logitech mx3200 :: creative inspire t3100 2.1 :: vista business 64-bi
sp1*

EvaQ8;816764 Wrote:
> > skunksmash;816757 Wrote:
> > Hi EvaQ8 ... welcome to the forums
> >
> > you say your CPU is overclocked what about you RAM...
> > under volted RAM can cause the system to hang unpredictabl
> >
> > if its not that the 8.8 drivers are brand new & are causing a fe
> > issues at the moment
> > you might try an earlier driver to rule it out as a possibilit
> >
> > also you might try & run the system without this installe
> > US Robotics Wireless MAXg PCI car
> > PCI cards can also cause issues
> >
> > what PSU are you using ...
> > you said the system runs fine once it boots ...have you stress teste
> > it..
> > > >
>
> * I added a signature with my sytem spec
>
> * I have DDR2 PC6400 ValueRam which is running @ 801 Mhz (DRAM is 1:
> with FSB which is at 400Mhz
>
> * I will try the driver from the MSI website (maybe because I hav
> the OC edition of the R4870 the ATI driver has issues with my graphic
> card?
>
> * would be weird if the PCI card caused the problem. I'll take it ou
> when nothing alse works
>
> * PSU is a Corsair HX620 (=620W
>
> * The system is stress tested for 12h with Prime95 v25.6 and th
> temps stay below 60 °C on all cores using a TjMax of 100 °
> (monitoring both with RealTemp 2.7 and CoreTemp 0.99.2). CPU Voltag
> set in the BIOS is 1.2V
>
> --> personally I don't think the overclock has anything to do wit
> the proble

ok....

the corsair PSU is superb..& the rig is 12hrs stable

try the 8.7 or 8.6 catalysts see if that helps...
:

--
skunksmas

E2180 @ 3.2ghz
arctic cooler pro 775
4GB gskill HZ @ 1050mhz
Asus P5K premium
160GB seagate 7200
coloursit 600w psu
PNY 8800GT 512mb

skunksmash;816767 Wrote:
> > EvaQ8;816764 Wrote:
> > > > skunksmash;816757 Wrote:
> > > Hi EvaQ8 ... welcome to the forums
> > >
> > > you say your CPU is overclocked what about you RAM...
> > > under volted RAM can cause the system to hang unpredictabl
> > >
> > > if its not that the 8.8 drivers are brand new & are causing a fe
> > > issues at the moment
> > > you might try an earlier driver to rule it out as a possibilit
> > >
> > > also you might try & run the system without this installe
> > > US Robotics Wireless MAXg PCI car
> > > PCI cards can also cause issues
> > >
> > > what PSU are you using ...
> > > you said the system runs fine once it boots ...have you stress teste
> > > it..
> > > > > > >
> >
> > * I added a signature with my sytem spec
> >
> > * I have DDR2 PC6400 ValueRam which is running @ 801 Mhz (DRAM i
> > 1:1 with FSB which is at 400Mhz
> >
> > * I will try the driver from the MSI website (maybe because I hav
> > the OC edition of the R4870 the ATI driver has issues with m
> > graphics card?
> >
> > * would be weird if the PCI card caused the problem. I'll take i
> > out when nothing alse works
> >
> > * PSU is a Corsair HX620 (=620W
> >
> > * The system is stress tested for 12h with Prime95 v25.6 and th
> > temps stay below 60 °C on all cores using a TjMax of 100 °
> > (monitoring both with RealTemp 2.7 and CoreTemp 0.99.2). CPU Voltag
> > set in the BIOS is 1.2V
> >
> > --> personally I don't think the overclock has anything to do wit
> > the problem> >
>
> ok....
>
> the corsair PSU is superb..& the rig is 12hrs stable
>
> try the 8.7 or 8.6 catalysts see if that helps...
> :

ok :

I don't know if I'll have the time today, but I'll let you know as soo
as possible

Do I first uninstall the v8.8 driver, lower my screen resolution
reboot and then install the new one? Or do I just install it on top o
the current one

On the MSI website they have the following driver ... ok to instal
this one

R4870-T2D512-O
ATI Radeon Series Graphic Card Driver 8.501' Windows Vista 32/64bit
(http://global.msi.eu/index.php?func=...e&dno=7096&i=1) (110156KB

"Special Note
The Drivers provided here are exclusively fo
MSI products only. MSI takes no responsibility fo
any damage resulted from improper usage or lack o
technical expertise.

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EvaQ

*intel core2 quad q9450 @ 3.2 ghz, 1.2v :: scythe mugen (infinity) :
asus p5q pro :: 4096 mb ddr2 pc6400 :: msi radeon r4870 oc edition :
3.75 tb hdd :: antec p182 :: corsair hx620 psu :: philips 20\" lcd :
logitech mx3200 :: creative inspire t3100 2.1 :: vista business 64-bi
sp1*

EvaQ8;816769 Wrote:
> > skunksmash;816767 Wrote:
> > > > EvaQ8;816764 Wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > * I added a signature with my sytem spec
> > >
> > > * I have DDR2 PC6400 ValueRam which is running @ 801 Mhz (DRAM is 1:
> > > with FSB which is at 400Mhz
> > >
> > > * I will try the driver from the MSI website (maybe because I have th
> > > OC edition of the R4870 the ATI driver has issues with my graphic
> > > card?
> > >
> > > * would be weird if the PCI card caused the problem. I'll take it ou
> > > when nothing alse works
> > >
> > > * PSU is a Corsair HX620 (=620W
> > >
> > > * The system is stress tested for 12h with Prime95 v25.6 and the temp
> > > stay below 60 °C on all cores using a TjMax of 100 °C (monitoring bot
> > > with RealTemp 2.7 and CoreTemp 0.99.2). CPU Voltage set in the BIOS i
> > > 1.2V
> > >
> > > --> personally I don't think the overclock has anything to do with th
> > > problem> > > >
> >
> > ok....
> >
> > the corsair PSU is superb..& the rig is 12hrs stable
> >
> > try the 8.7 or 8.6 catalysts see if that helps...
> > > >
>
> ok :
>
> I don't know if I'll have the time today, but I'll let you know a
> soon as possible
>
> Do I first uninstall the v8.8 driver, lower my screen resolution
> reboot and then install the new one? Or do I just install it on top o
> the current one
>
> On the MSI website they have the following driver
>
> R4870-T2D512-O
> ATI Radeon Series Graphic Card Driver 8.501' Windows Vista 32/64bit
> (http://global.msi.eu/index.php?func=...e&dno=7096&i=1
> (110156KB

yes.... you must uninstall 8.8 reboot & try 8.5 & then reboot agai

if this works you don't wanna be on these drivers for long ...
they are quite old & will do your shiny 4870 no justic
try & find links for 8.6 & 8.
:

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skunksmas

E2180 @ 3.2ghz
arctic cooler pro 775
4GB gskill HZ @ 1050mhz
Asus P5K premium
160GB seagate 7200
coloursit 600w psu
PNY 8800GT 512mb

skunksmash;816772 Wrote:
> > EvaQ8;816769 Wrote:
> > > > skunksmash;816767 Wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > ok....
> > >
> > > the corsair PSU is superb..& the rig is 12hrs stable
> > >
> > > try the 8.7 or 8.6 catalysts see if that helps...
> > > > > > >
> >
> > ok :
> >
> > I don't know if I'll have the time today, but I'll let you know a
> > soon as possible
> >
> > Do I first uninstall the v8.8 driver, lower my screen resolution
> > reboot and then install the new one? Or do I just install it on to
> > of the current one
> >
> > On the MSI website they have the following driver
> >
> > R4870-T2D512-O
> > ATI Radeon Series Graphic Card Driver 8.501' Windows Vist
> > 32/64bit
> > (http://global.msi.eu/index.php?func=...e&dno=7096&i=1
> > (110156KB)> >
>
> yes.... you must uninstall 8.8 reboot & try 8.5 & then reboot agai
>
> if this works you don't wanna be on these drivers for long ...
> they are quite old & will do your shiny 4870 no justic
> try & find links for 8.6 & 8.
> :

ok, I will keep you posted on the results as soon as possibl

--
EvaQ

*intel core2 quad q9450 @ 3.2 ghz, 1.2v :: scythe mugen (infinity) :
asus p5q pro :: 4096 mb ddr2 pc6400 :: msi radeon r4870 oc edition :
3.75 tb hdd :: antec p182 :: corsair hx620 psu :: philips 20\" lcd :
logitech mx3200 :: creative inspire t3100 2.1 :: vista business 64-bi
sp1*

First I want to say that it's not always when cold starting that th
problem occurs. Last time is started cold and there was no problem..

I tried to instal the v8.501 drivers, but Vista said that I had t
install the correct drivers for my video card ... weird :sarc

I tried the Catalyst v8.7 drivers and for the moment everything work
fine. No black screens ... so far :huh

--
EvaQ

*intel core2 quad q9450 @ 3.2 ghz, 1.2v :: scythe mugen (infinity) :
asus p5q pro :: 4096 mb ddr2 pc6400 :: msi radeon r4870 oc edition :
3.75 tb hdd :: antec p182 :: corsair hx620 psu :: philips 20\" lcd :
logitech mx3200 :: creative inspire t3100 2.1 :: vista business 64-bi
sp1*

EvaQ8;816773 Wrote:
> > skunksmash;816772 Wrote:
> > > > EvaQ8;816769 Wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > ok :
> > >
> > > I don't know if I'll have the time today, but I'll let you know as soo
> > > as possible
> > >
> > > Do I first uninstall the v8.8 driver, lower my screen resolution
> > > reboot and then install the new one? Or do I just install it on top o
> > > the current one
> > >
> > > On the MSI website they have the following driver
> > >
> > > R4870-T2D512-O
> > > ATI Radeon Series Graphic Card Driver 8.501' Windows Vista 32/64bit
> > > (http://global.msi.eu/index.php?func=...e&dno=7096&i=1) (110156KB)> > > >
> >
> > yes.... you must uninstall 8.8 reboot & try 8.5 & then reboot agai
> >
> > if this works you don't wanna be on these drivers for long ...
> > they are quite old & will do your shiny 4870 no justic
> > try & find links for 8.6 & 8.
> > > >
>
> ok, I will keep you posted how this evolve
>
> I will try one thing at a time: first graphics card driver update an
> if the doesn't work I'll update the bio
>
> Meanwhile thanks for the help :

Installed the v8.7 drivers, worked for a while but now again the sam
problem! Computer won't boot till the startup screen after pushing th
reset button for 3 times in a row. Also pushing the power button for
few seconds and restarting this way does not help..

The only thing I did before shutting down yesterday evening wa
installing Acrobat Reader 8.1.2 and surfing the I'net. I also playe
Company Of Heroes and installed a Windows update for Outlook, bu
restarting after playing COH and the update posed no problem

The power led is also not functioning, while the cable seems to b
plugged in correctly. Can this be related to my problems

Any suggestions? Running some diagnostic tool

This is very frustrating :huh

Thnx in advance

E

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EvaQ

*intel core2 quad q9450 @ 3.2 ghz, 1.2v :: scythe mugen (infinity) :
asus p5q pro :: 4096 mb ddr2 pc6400 :: msi radeon r4870 oc edition :
3.75 tb hdd :: antec p182 :: corsair hx620 psu :: philips 20\" lcd :
logitech mx3200 :: creative inspire t3100 2.1 :: vista business 64-bi
sp1*