Black Screen Sfter Update

Hi Folks,

Hoping someone might be able to help me. I went to MS update this morning
and downloaded their tool to use to update all products, quite a number of
things were needed and one was a driver, NVIDA Geforce 4 MX420.

After restarting my screen remained black and I waited quite abit of time as
I knew I had downloaded anumber of updates and hot fixes.

I finally had to shut it off by the power button and I went into safe mode
and rolled back driver on Video Adapter as that is where the driver was ithe
device manager and it is signed by MS.

After I restarted it was all back to normal, yet, the driver is still there
and I would like to understand what happened and how I can safely remove
that driver and reinstall what I had. Maybe it wasn't the driver, I just
don't know.

I did not mean to download that driver and have passed it by for a while as
I read some remarks in the newsgroups that the drivers from the manufacter
is better to installed than Windows.

Does anyone have any thoughts as to what happen? Did I fixe it or is it
lying in wait tos trike another time?
What problems may occur from having to shut down the computer by way of the
power button?

Thanks to all who posts a reply.

Pike

What happened is exactly what you have reported.

You installed a video driver from Windows Update, after passing it by several
times, and having read advice to NOT install video drivers from Windows
Update.

You fixed it by uninstalling the driver.

Unless you're having video problems, don't worry about upgrading video
drivers. With video, the adage "if it ain't broke, don't fix it", is a good
policy.

If you successfully rolled back the driver, then it is no longer installed.


"Pike" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Hi Folks,
>
> Hoping someone might be able to help me. I went to MS update this morning
> and downloaded their tool to use to update all products, quite a number of
> things were needed and one was a driver, NVIDA Geforce 4 MX420.
>
> After restarting my screen remained black and I waited quite abit of time as
> I knew I had downloaded anumber of updates and hot fixes.
>
> I finally had to shut it off by the power button and I went into safe mode
> and rolled back driver on Video Adapter as that is where the driver was ithe
> device manager and it is signed by MS.
>
> After I restarted it was all back to normal, yet, the driver is still there
> and I would like to understand what happened and how I can safely remove
> that driver and reinstall what I had. Maybe it wasn't the driver, I just
> don't know.
>
> I did not mean to download that driver and have passed it by for a while as
> I read some remarks in the newsgroups that the drivers from the manufacter
> is better to installed than Windows.
>
> Does anyone have any thoughts as to what happen? Did I fixe it or is it
> lying in wait tos trike another time?
> What problems may occur from having to shut down the computer by way of the
> power button?
>
> Thanks to all who posts a reply.
>
> Pike
>

"Lawrence Garvin [MVP]" <> wrote in message
news:u1YXv$...
> What happened is exactly what you have reported.
>
> You installed a video driver from Windows Update, after passing it by
> several times, and having read advice to NOT install video drivers from
> Windows Update.
>

I know, I could kick myself for letting that happen. I actually thought I
had removed it from the list and then watched it tell me its being install
and I froze not knowing want to do. Then, I convince myself, I would be one
of the lucky ones. :-)



> You fixed it by uninstalling the driver.
>
> Unless you're having video problems, don't worry about upgrading video
> drivers. With video, the adage "if it ain't broke, don't fix it", is a
> good policy.
>
> If you successfully rolled back the driver, then it is no longer
> installed.
>
>

Thank you. You are right, if it ain't broke, leave it alone.


Pike
"I just know one day...it will come back to bite me."






> "Pike" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>> Hoping someone might be able to help me. I went to MS update this morning
>> and downloaded their tool to use to update all products, quite a number
>> of things were needed and one was a driver, NVIDA Geforce 4 MX420.
>>
>> After restarting my screen remained black and I waited quite abit of time
>> as I knew I had downloaded anumber of updates and hot fixes.
>>
>> I finally had to shut it off by the power button and I went into safe
>> mode and rolled back driver on Video Adapter as that is where the driver
>> was ithe device manager and it is signed by MS.
>>
>> After I restarted it was all back to normal, yet, the driver is still
>> there and I would like to understand what happened and how I can safely
>> remove that driver and reinstall what I had. Maybe it wasn't the driver,
>> I just don't know.
>>
>> I did not mean to download that driver and have passed it by for a while
>> as I read some remarks in the newsgroups that the drivers from the
>> manufacter is better to installed than Windows.
>>
>> Does anyone have any thoughts as to what happen? Did I fixe it or is it
>> lying in wait tos trike another time?
>> What problems may occur from having to shut down the computer by way of
>> the power button?
>>
>> Thanks to all who posts a reply.
>>
>> Pike
>>
>
>

Help! I'm not sure if my problem is the same or not, but today I went to
Windows Update and downloaded ATI Technologies Video Radeon X300 Series and
my monitor has not been the same since. It did not go black but the type
size and everything is messed up. I have tweaked and tweaked and cannot get
it back to normal. Any suggestions? Thanks.

mawsey



"Pike" wrote:

>
> "Lawrence Garvin [MVP]" <> wrote in message
> news:u1YXv$...
> > What happened is exactly what you have reported.
> >
> > You installed a video driver from Windows Update, after passing it by
> > several times, and having read advice to NOT install video drivers from
> > Windows Update.
> >
>
> I know, I could kick myself for letting that happen. I actually thought I
> had removed it from the list and then watched it tell me its being install
> and I froze not knowing want to do. Then, I convince myself, I would be one
> of the lucky ones. :-)
>
>
>
> > You fixed it by uninstalling the driver.
> >
> > Unless you're having video problems, don't worry about upgrading video
> > drivers. With video, the adage "if it ain't broke, don't fix it", is a
> > good policy.
> >
> > If you successfully rolled back the driver, then it is no longer
> > installed.
> >
> >
>
> Thank you. You are right, if it ain't broke, leave it alone.
>
>
> Pike
> "I just know one day...it will come back to bite me."
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Pike" <> wrote in message
> > news:...
> >> Hi Folks,
> >>
> >> Hoping someone might be able to help me. I went to MS update this morning
> >> and downloaded their tool to use to update all products, quite a number
> >> of things were needed and one was a driver, NVIDA Geforce 4 MX420.
> >>
> >> After restarting my screen remained black and I waited quite abit of time
> >> as I knew I had downloaded anumber of updates and hot fixes.
> >>
> >> I finally had to shut it off by the power button and I went into safe
> >> mode and rolled back driver on Video Adapter as that is where the driver
> >> was ithe device manager and it is signed by MS.
> >>
> >> After I restarted it was all back to normal, yet, the driver is still
> >> there and I would like to understand what happened and how I can safely
> >> remove that driver and reinstall what I had. Maybe it wasn't the driver,
> >> I just don't know.
> >>
> >> I did not mean to download that driver and have passed it by for a while
> >> as I read some remarks in the newsgroups that the drivers from the
> >> manufacter is better to installed than Windows.
> >>
> >> Does anyone have any thoughts as to what happen? Did I fixe it or is it
> >> lying in wait tos trike another time?
> >> What problems may occur from having to shut down the computer by way of
> >> the power button?
> >>
> >> Thanks to all who posts a reply.
> >>
> >> Pike
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
>

cf.
http://groups.google.com/group/micro...66428265ba3924
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security), AH-VSOP

Pike wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> Hoping someone might be able to help me. I went to MS update this morning
> and downloaded their tool to use to update all products, quite a number of
> things were needed and one was a driver, NVIDA Geforce 4 MX420.
>
> After restarting my screen remained black and I waited quite abit of time
> as I knew I had downloaded anumber of updates and hot fixes.
>
> I finally had to shut it off by the power button and I went into safe mode
> and rolled back driver on Video Adapter as that is where the driver was
> ithe device manager and it is signed by MS.
>
> After I restarted it was all back to normal, yet, the driver is still
> there and I would like to understand what happened and how I can safely
> remove that driver and reinstall what I had. Maybe it wasn't the driver,
> I just don't know.
>
> I did not mean to download that driver and have passed it by for a while
> as I read some remarks in the newsgroups that the drivers from the
> manufacter is better to installed than Windows.
>
> Does anyone have any thoughts as to what happen? Did I fixe it or is it
> lying in wait tos trike another time?
> What problems may occur from having to shut down the computer by way of
> the power button?
>
> Thanks to all who posts a reply.
>
> Pike

PA Bear, since I am nt an experiernced user, can you tell me how to roll back
to my old video driver? I tried the System Restore and it didn't work.

"PA Bear" wrote:

> cf.
> http://groups.google.com/group/micro...66428265ba3924
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security), AH-VSOP
>
> Pike wrote:
> > Hi Folks,
> >
> > Hoping someone might be able to help me. I went to MS update this morning
> > and downloaded their tool to use to update all products, quite a number of
> > things were needed and one was a driver, NVIDA Geforce 4 MX420.
> >
> > After restarting my screen remained black and I waited quite abit of time
> > as I knew I had downloaded anumber of updates and hot fixes.
> >
> > I finally had to shut it off by the power button and I went into safe mode
> > and rolled back driver on Video Adapter as that is where the driver was
> > ithe device manager and it is signed by MS.
> >
> > After I restarted it was all back to normal, yet, the driver is still
> > there and I would like to understand what happened and how I can safely
> > remove that driver and reinstall what I had. Maybe it wasn't the driver,
> > I just don't know.
> >
> > I did not mean to download that driver and have passed it by for a while
> > as I read some remarks in the newsgroups that the drivers from the
> > manufacter is better to installed than Windows.
> >
> > Does anyone have any thoughts as to what happen? Did I fixe it or is it
> > lying in wait tos trike another time?
> > What problems may occur from having to shut down the computer by way of
> > the power button?
> >
> > Thanks to all who posts a reply.
> >
> > Pike
>
>

"Mawsey" <> wrote in message
news:40650176-D812-4B3B-A5E8-...
> PA Bear, since I am nt an experiernced user, can you tell me how to roll
> back
> to my old video driver? I tried the System Restore and it didn't work.


You go to control panel and open system clcik on hardware and then device
manager.
Once you locate the driver( check display adapter that is where mine was)
then right click and it gives you an option to roll back to an the one
prior.

However, it wouldn't hurt to create a system resore first. Don't mess with
anything else, though.

Good luck.



>
> "PA Bear" wrote:
>
>> cf.
>> http://groups.google.com/group/micro...66428265ba3924
>> --
>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>> MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security), AH-VSOP
>>
>> Pike wrote:
>> > Hi Folks,
>> >
>> > Hoping someone might be able to help me. I went to MS update this
>> > morning
>> > and downloaded their tool to use to update all products, quite a number
>> > of
>> > things were needed and one was a driver, NVIDA Geforce 4 MX420.
>> >
>> > After restarting my screen remained black and I waited quite abit of
>> > time
>> > as I knew I had downloaded anumber of updates and hot fixes.
>> >
>> > I finally had to shut it off by the power button and I went into safe
>> > mode
>> > and rolled back driver on Video Adapter as that is where the driver was
>> > ithe device manager and it is signed by MS.
>> >
>> > After I restarted it was all back to normal, yet, the driver is still
>> > there and I would like to understand what happened and how I can safely
>> > remove that driver and reinstall what I had. Maybe it wasn't the
>> > driver,
>> > I just don't know.
>> >
>> > I did not mean to download that driver and have passed it by for a
>> > while
>> > as I read some remarks in the newsgroups that the drivers from the
>> > manufacter is better to installed than Windows.
>> >
>> > Does anyone have any thoughts as to what happen? Did I fixe it or is it
>> > lying in wait tos trike another time?
>> > What problems may occur from having to shut down the computer by way of
>> > the power button?
>> >
>> > Thanks to all who posts a reply.
>> >
>> > Pike
>>
>>

Pa Bear, why are you posting that link? I don't understand what you are
trying to say.

I know I posted about the problem in a different newsgroup, but, it was the
wrong newsgroup and I am posting in the right one now.

The problem of the black screen is gone, however, I was in the add and
remove program and the driver showed up in my add and remove list. I thought
it had been rolled back. So, I checked the device manager and it shows its
installed. I don't dare remove it from tadd and remove and that is probably
why it shows back up in device manager as being installed.

The problem does seems to be over, however, I am trying to understand
things, not to mess around with it now, its a in case the problem raises its
head again, I need to know how to remove it properly, since it is in my add
and remove program. I have never seen a driver in there before.

Anyways, I don't understand what you are saying as I haven't learned your
way, yet.

Regards

Pike




"PA Bear" <> wrote in message
news:%23IGnMz%...
> cf.
> http://groups.google.com/group/micro...66428265ba3924
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security), AH-VSOP
>
> Pike wrote:
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>> Hoping someone might be able to help me. I went to MS update this morning
>> and downloaded their tool to use to update all products, quite a number
>> of
>> things were needed and one was a driver, NVIDA Geforce 4 MX420.
>>
>> After restarting my screen remained black and I waited quite abit of time
>> as I knew I had downloaded anumber of updates and hot fixes.
>>
>> I finally had to shut it off by the power button and I went into safe
>> mode
>> and rolled back driver on Video Adapter as that is where the driver was
>> ithe device manager and it is signed by MS.
>>
>> After I restarted it was all back to normal, yet, the driver is still
>> there and I would like to understand what happened and how I can safely
>> remove that driver and reinstall what I had. Maybe it wasn't the driver,
>> I just don't know.
>>
>> I did not mean to download that driver and have passed it by for a while
>> as I read some remarks in the newsgroups that the drivers from the
>> manufacter is better to installed than Windows.
>>
>> Does anyone have any thoughts as to what happen? Did I fixe it or is it
>> lying in wait tos trike another time?
>> What problems may occur from having to shut down the computer by way of
>> the power button?
>>
>> Thanks to all who posts a reply.
>>
>> Pike
>

I was suggesting that the problems about which you posted to the various
newsgroups were related and caused by installing the driver update from
Windows Update.

Now, you rolled back to the previous install and everything's OK, save that
the driver you'd installed from WinUp is found in Add/Remove Programs? I
suggest you follow the First Rule of Computing: If it ain't broke, don't fix
it. (IOW, don't worry about the entry in A/RP.)
--
~PA Bear


Pike wrote:
> Pa Bear, why are you posting that link? I don't understand what you are
> trying to say.
>
> I know I posted about the problem in a different newsgroup, but, it was
> the
> wrong newsgroup and I am posting in the right one now.
>
> The problem of the black screen is gone, however, I was in the add and
> remove program and the driver showed up in my add and remove list. I
> thought
> it had been rolled back. So, I checked the device manager and it shows its
> installed. I don't dare remove it from tadd and remove and that is
> probably
> why it shows back up in device manager as being installed.
>
> The problem does seems to be over, however, I am trying to understand
> things, not to mess around with it now, its a in case the problem raises
> its
> head again, I need to know how to remove it properly, since it is in my
> add
> and remove program. I have never seen a driver in there before.
>
> Anyways, I don't understand what you are saying as I haven't learned your
> way, yet.
>
> Regards
>
> Pike
>
>
>
>
> "PA Bear" <> wrote in message
> news:%23IGnMz%...
>> cf.
>> http://groups.google.com/group/micro...66428265ba3924
>> --
>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>> MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security), AH-VSOP
>>
>> Pike wrote:
>>> Hi Folks,
>>>
>>> Hoping someone might be able to help me. I went to MS update this
>>> morning
>>> and downloaded their tool to use to update all products, quite a number
>>> of
>>> things were needed and one was a driver, NVIDA Geforce 4 MX420.
>>>
>>> After restarting my screen remained black and I waited quite abit of
>>> time
>>> as I knew I had downloaded anumber of updates and hot fixes.
>>>
>>> I finally had to shut it off by the power button and I went into safe
>>> mode
>>> and rolled back driver on Video Adapter as that is where the driver was
>>> ithe device manager and it is signed by MS.
>>>
>>> After I restarted it was all back to normal, yet, the driver is still
>>> there and I would like to understand what happened and how I can safely
>>> remove that driver and reinstall what I had. Maybe it wasn't the driver,
>>> I just don't know.
>>>
>>> I did not mean to download that driver and have passed it by for a while
>>> as I read some remarks in the newsgroups that the drivers from the
>>> manufacter is better to installed than Windows.
>>>
>>> Does anyone have any thoughts as to what happen? Did I fixe it or is it
>>> lying in wait tos trike another time?
>>> What problems may occur from having to shut down the computer by way of
>>> the power button?
>>>
>>> Thanks to all who posts a reply.
>>>
>>> Pike

"PA Bear" <> wrote in message
news:...
>I was suggesting that the problems about which you posted to the various
>newsgroups were related and caused by installing the driver update from
>Windows Update.
>
> Now, you rolled back to the previous install and everything's OK, save
> that the driver you'd installed from WinUp is found in Add/Remove
> Programs? I suggest you follow the First Rule of Computing: If it ain't
> broke, don't fix it. (IOW, don't worry about the entry in A/RP.)
> --
> ~PA Bear


Ok, Bear, I understand. Things have stopped acting up and I will do as you
say and stop worrying about the driver in my Add and Remove program.

Thank you

Pike

>
>
> Pike wrote:
>> Pa Bear, why are you posting that link? I don't understand what you are
>> trying to say.
>>
>> I know I posted about the problem in a different newsgroup, but, it was
>> the
>> wrong newsgroup and I am posting in the right one now.
>>
>> The problem of the black screen is gone, however, I was in the add and
>> remove program and the driver showed up in my add and remove list. I
>> thought
>> it had been rolled back. So, I checked the device manager and it shows
>> its
>> installed. I don't dare remove it from tadd and remove and that is
>> probably
>> why it shows back up in device manager as being installed.
>>
>> The problem does seems to be over, however, I am trying to understand
>> things, not to mess around with it now, its a in case the problem raises
>> its
>> head again, I need to know how to remove it properly, since it is in my
>> add
>> and remove program. I have never seen a driver in there before.
>>
>> Anyways, I don't understand what you are saying as I haven't learned your
>> way, yet.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Pike
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "PA Bear" <> wrote in message
>> news:%23IGnMz%...
>>> cf.
>>> http://groups.google.com/group/micro...66428265ba3924
>>> --
>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>>> MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE, Shell/User, Security), AH-VSOP
>>>
>>> Pike wrote:
>>>> Hi Folks,
>>>>
>>>> Hoping someone might be able to help me. I went to MS update this
>>>> morning
>>>> and downloaded their tool to use to update all products, quite a number
>>>> of
>>>> things were needed and one was a driver, NVIDA Geforce 4 MX420.
>>>>
>>>> After restarting my screen remained black and I waited quite abit of
>>>> time
>>>> as I knew I had downloaded anumber of updates and hot fixes.
>>>>
>>>> I finally had to shut it off by the power button and I went into safe
>>>> mode
>>>> and rolled back driver on Video Adapter as that is where the driver was
>>>> ithe device manager and it is signed by MS.
>>>>
>>>> After I restarted it was all back to normal, yet, the driver is still
>>>> there and I would like to understand what happened and how I can safely
>>>> remove that driver and reinstall what I had. Maybe it wasn't the
>>>> driver,
>>>> I just don't know.
>>>>
>>>> I did not mean to download that driver and have passed it by for a
>>>> while
>>>> as I read some remarks in the newsgroups that the drivers from the
>>>> manufacter is better to installed than Windows.
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone have any thoughts as to what happen? Did I fixe it or is it
>>>> lying in wait tos trike another time?
>>>> What problems may occur from having to shut down the computer by way of
>>>> the power button?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks to all who posts a reply.
>>>>
>>>> Pike
>