Blocked Website not allowed in Vista

My employer has a website we can log into to check our email remotely. When
using WinXP SP2 at home (not my comp, my son's) I type in the url and it
brings up a security certificate problem and then I can say continue to
website and it brings up the login screen.

I cannot get to this point on my Vista home machine or Vista laptop. Our IT
people only support XP and are not willing to help out.

I turned off everything I could think of including firewall, defender,
pop-up blocker, etc. Basically everything I could find. Still, IE will not
bring up the login screen or even the window that says the website has a
problem with it's security certficate. The website is mail.horrocks.com.

I guess I'm starting to get really annoyed with some of these issues. I've
already turned off User Account Control because of it's non-stop nagging.

I have Vista Home Premium and is currently updated with Windows Update.

Any help that can be provided for this issue would be appreciated. Thanks.
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MikeD

"MikeD" <> wrote in message
news:36145D87-4921-4BB1-B389-...
> My employer has a website we can log into to check our email remotely.
> When
> using WinXP SP2 at home (not my comp, my son's) I type in the url and it
> brings up a security certificate problem and then I can say continue to
> website and it brings up the login screen.
>
> I cannot get to this point on my Vista home machine or Vista laptop. Our
> IT
> people only support XP and are not willing to help out.
>
> I turned off everything I could think of including firewall, defender,
> pop-up blocker, etc. Basically everything I could find. Still, IE will not
> bring up the login screen or even the window that says the website has a
> problem with it's security certficate. The website is mail.horrocks.com.
>
> I guess I'm starting to get really annoyed with some of these issues. I've
> already turned off User Account Control because of it's non-stop nagging.
>
> I have Vista Home Premium and is currently updated with Windows Update.
>
> Any help that can be provided for this issue would be appreciated. Thanks.

I'm seeing the same behavior here, I don't believe this is any sort of
security issue locally on your machine. It seems more like the server
simply isn't responding to the request, otherwise it would actually connect.

I'll try a few other things and post back.

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Paul Smith,
Yeovil, UK.
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User.
http://www.dasmirnov.net/blog/
http://www.windowsresource.net/

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It also isn't working from Windows Server 2008.

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Paul Smith,
Yeovil, UK.
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"Paul Smith" <> wrote in message
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> "MikeD" <> wrote in message
> news:36145D87-4921-4BB1-B389-...
>> My employer has a website we can log into to check our email remotely.
>> When
>> using WinXP SP2 at home (not my comp, my son's) I type in the url and it
>> brings up a security certificate problem and then I can say continue to
>> website and it brings up the login screen.
>>
>> I cannot get to this point on my Vista home machine or Vista laptop. Our
>> IT
>> people only support XP and are not willing to help out.
>>
>> I turned off everything I could think of including firewall, defender,
>> pop-up blocker, etc. Basically everything I could find. Still, IE will
>> not
>> bring up the login screen or even the window that says the website has a
>> problem with it's security certficate. The website is mail.horrocks.com.
>>
>> I guess I'm starting to get really annoyed with some of these issues.
>> I've
>> already turned off User Account Control because of it's non-stop nagging.
>>
>> I have Vista Home Premium and is currently updated with Windows Update.
>>
>> Any help that can be provided for this issue would be appreciated.
>> Thanks.
>
> I'm seeing the same behavior here, I don't believe this is any sort of
> security issue locally on your machine. It seems more like the server
> simply isn't responding to the request, otherwise it would actually
> connect.
>
> I'll try a few other things and post back.
>
> --
> Paul Smith,
> Yeovil, UK.
> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User.
> http://www.dasmirnov.net/blog/
> http://www.windowsresource.net/
>
> *Remove nospam. to reply by e-mail*
>
>

Checking via http://www.mxtoolbox.com/index.aspx reveals that there are no
MX records for horrocks.com, which could help explain it. I ran a check for
mail.horrocks.com and www.horrocks.com. Both negative for MX records.

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Jane, not plain 64 bit enabled :-)
Batteries not included. Braincell on vacation ;-)
MVP Windows Shell/User

"Paul Smith" <> wrote in message
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> It also isn't working from Windows Server 2008.
>
> --
> Paul Smith,
> Yeovil, UK.
> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User.
> http://www.dasmirnov.net/blog/
> http://www.windowsresource.net/
>
> *Remove nospam. to reply by e-mail*
>
>
> "Paul Smith" <> wrote in message
> news:21D81F24-639C-4D78-A32C-...
>> "MikeD" <> wrote in message
>> news:36145D87-4921-4BB1-B389-...
>>> My employer has a website we can log into to check our email remotely.
>>> When
>>> using WinXP SP2 at home (not my comp, my son's) I type in the url and it
>>> brings up a security certificate problem and then I can say continue to
>>> website and it brings up the login screen.
>>>
>>> I cannot get to this point on my Vista home machine or Vista laptop. Our
>>> IT
>>> people only support XP and are not willing to help out.
>>>
>>> I turned off everything I could think of including firewall, defender,
>>> pop-up blocker, etc. Basically everything I could find. Still, IE will
>>> not
>>> bring up the login screen or even the window that says the website has a
>>> problem with it's security certficate. The website is mail.horrocks.com.
>>>
>>> I guess I'm starting to get really annoyed with some of these issues.
>>> I've
>>> already turned off User Account Control because of it's non-stop
>>> nagging.
>>>
>>> I have Vista Home Premium and is currently updated with Windows Update.
>>>
>>> Any help that can be provided for this issue would be appreciated.
>>> Thanks.
>>
>> I'm seeing the same behavior here, I don't believe this is any sort of
>> security issue locally on your machine. It seems more like the server
>> simply isn't responding to the request, otherwise it would actually
>> connect.
>>
>> I'll try a few other things and post back.
>>
>> --
>> Paul Smith,
>> Yeovil, UK.
>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User.
>> http://www.dasmirnov.net/blog/
>> http://www.windowsresource.net/
>>
>> *Remove nospam. to reply by e-mail*
>>
>>
>

Ran SMTP test from mxtoolbox and that checked out:

RESULT: mail.horrocks.com
Banner: Ready [94 ms]
Connect Time: 0.078 seconds - Good
Transaction Time: 0.578 seconds - Good
Relay Check: OK - This server is not an open relay.
Rev DNS Check: OK - 67.42.31.2 resolves to
67-42-31-2.slkc.qwest.net
GeoCode Info: Geocoding server is unavailable
Session Transcript: HELO mxtoolbox.com - DIAGNOSTIC TEST -
See http://www.mxtoolbox.com/Policy.aspx
250 horrocks.com Ok [78 ms]
HELO mxtoolbox.com
250 horrocks.com Ok [78 ms]
MAIL FROM: <>
250 Ok [94 ms]
RCPT TO: <>
550 Relaying denied [78 ms]
QUIT
221 horrocks.com Closing transmission channel [78
ms]






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"Paul Smith" <> wrote in message
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> It also isn't working from Windows Server 2008.
>
> --
> Paul Smith,
> Yeovil, UK.
> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User.
> http://www.dasmirnov.net/blog/
> http://www.windowsresource.net/
>
> *Remove nospam. to reply by e-mail*
>
>
> "Paul Smith" <> wrote in message
> news:21D81F24-639C-4D78-A32C-...
>> "MikeD" <> wrote in message
>> news:36145D87-4921-4BB1-B389-...
>>> My employer has a website we can log into to check our email remotely.
>>> When
>>> using WinXP SP2 at home (not my comp, my son's) I type in the url and it
>>> brings up a security certificate problem and then I can say continue to
>>> website and it brings up the login screen.
>>>
>>> I cannot get to this point on my Vista home machine or Vista laptop. Our
>>> IT
>>> people only support XP and are not willing to help out.
>>>
>>> I turned off everything I could think of including firewall, defender,
>>> pop-up blocker, etc. Basically everything I could find. Still, IE will
>>> not
>>> bring up the login screen or even the window that says the website has a
>>> problem with it's security certficate. The website is mail.horrocks.com.
>>>
>>> I guess I'm starting to get really annoyed with some of these issues.
>>> I've
>>> already turned off User Account Control because of it's non-stop
>>> nagging.
>>>
>>> I have Vista Home Premium and is currently updated with Windows Update.
>>>
>>> Any help that can be provided for this issue would be appreciated.
>>> Thanks.
>>
>> I'm seeing the same behavior here, I don't believe this is any sort of
>> security issue locally on your machine. It seems more like the server
>> simply isn't responding to the request, otherwise it would actually
>> connect.
>>
>> I'll try a few other things and post back.
>>
>> --
>> Paul Smith,
>> Yeovil, UK.
>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User.
>> http://www.dasmirnov.net/blog/
>> http://www.windowsresource.net/
>>
>> *Remove nospam. to reply by e-mail*
>>
>>
>

On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 14:54:52 +1100, Jane C wrote:

> Checking via http://www.mxtoolbox.com/index.aspx reveals that there are no
> MX records for horrocks.com, which could help explain it. I ran a check for
> mail.horrocks.com and www.horrocks.com. Both negative for MX records.

That can cause problems with mail delivery, it won't however cause any
problems accessing a web-based email site with a browser.

--
Paul Adare
MVP - Virtual Machines
http://www.identit.ca
Shift to the left! Shift to the right! Pop up, push down, byte, byte,
byte!

"Paul Adare" <> wrote in message
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>
> That can cause problems with mail delivery, it won't however cause any
> problems accessing a web-based email site with a browser.
>
> --
> Paul Adare
> MVP - Virtual Machines
> http://www.identit.ca
> Shift to the left! Shift to the right! Pop up, push down, byte, byte,
> byte!

Oops, my bad. My braincell has yet to recover from New Year ;-)

IE7 in Vista and Server 2008 just will not connect to that site. I wonder
if the OP was using IE6 in XP?

--
Jane, not plain 64 bit enabled :-)
Batteries not included. Braincell on vacation ;-)
MVP Windows Shell/User

Paul Smith wrote:
> "MikeD" <> wrote in message
> news:36145D87-4921-4BB1-B389-...
>> My employer has a website we can log into to check our email remotely.
>> When
>> using WinXP SP2 at home (not my comp, my son's) I type in the url and it
>> brings up a security certificate problem and then I can say continue to
>> website and it brings up the login screen.
>>
>> I cannot get to this point on my Vista home machine or Vista laptop.
>> Our IT
>> people only support XP and are not willing to help out.
>>
>> I turned off everything I could think of including firewall, defender,
>> pop-up blocker, etc. Basically everything I could find. Still, IE will
>> not
>> bring up the login screen or even the window that says the website has a
>> problem with it's security certficate. The website is mail.horrocks.com.
>>
>> I guess I'm starting to get really annoyed with some of these issues.
>> I've
>> already turned off User Account Control because of it's non-stop nagging.
>>
>> I have Vista Home Premium and is currently updated with Windows Update.
>>
>> Any help that can be provided for this issue would be appreciated.
>> Thanks.
>
> I'm seeing the same behavior here, I don't believe this is any sort of
> security issue locally on your machine. It seems more like the server
> simply isn't responding to the request, otherwise it would actually
> connect.
>
> I'll try a few other things and post back.
>

Same with IE7 here. I was able (after a looooong pause) to get to the
web page with FireFox...
--

Regards,
Hank Arnold
Microsoft MVP
Windows Server - Directory Services

Hank Arnold (MVP) wrote:
>
>
> Same with IE7 here. I was able (after a looooong pause) to get to the
> web page with FireFox...


Ditto. Found the correct URL to be: https://mail.horrocks.com/gw/webacc


To the OP:

Have you tried looking on Novell's GroupWise support sites for
potential solutions/work-arounds?


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MikeD wrote:
> My employer has a website we can log into to check our email remotely. When
> using WinXP SP2 at home (not my comp, my son's) I type in the url and it
> brings up a security certificate problem and then I can say continue to
> website and it brings up the login screen.
>


What version of Internet Explorer, 6 or 7?


> I cannot get to this point on my Vista home machine or Vista laptop. Our IT
> people only support XP and are not willing to help out.
>
> I turned off everything I could think of including firewall, defender,
> pop-up blocker, etc. Basically everything I could find. Still, IE will not
> bring up the login screen or even the window that says the website has a
> problem with it's security certficate. The website is mail.horrocks.com.
>
> I guess I'm starting to get really annoyed with some of these issues. I've
> already turned off User Account Control because of it's non-stop nagging.
>


But this probably really isn't a Vista issue. It's just a matter of
your employer's IT department configuring their GroupWise server to
accept connections from a browser other than IE6.


> I have Vista Home Premium and is currently updated with Windows Update.
>
> Any help that can be provided for this issue would be appreciated. Thanks.


It is a very slow server, but I was able to access it using Firefox
2.0. The correct URL is https://mail.horrocks.com/gw/webacc

Have you tried looking on Novell's GroupWise support sites for
potential solutions/work-arounds? Novell is often slow to often support
to newer versions of Windows and/or Internet Explorer, but a lot of
people do find solutions in their support forums.


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Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:
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safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot