Boot drive not found XP Pro 64

Going on from my previous thread NTLDR I've got the computer booting up
fine and have now added all the other SCSI drives, BUT when I add any of
the SATA drives the computer fails to find the SCSI boot drive (C)
I've tried altering the boot order which has the floppy, the IDE CD
drive and the SCSI. I've even added the PCI BEV Nvidia bootagent 229.052
(whatever that is) and still no joy. Disconnecting the SATA drive
allows the computer to boot.

Any help much appreciated.

Cheers

Richard
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Richard,
What is the exact error message you are getting and in what part of the boot
process?
Carlos

"Richard" wrote:

> Going on from my previous thread NTLDR I've got the computer booting up
> fine and have now added all the other SCSI drives, BUT when I add any of
> the SATA drives the computer fails to find the SCSI boot drive (C)
> I've tried altering the boot order which has the floppy, the IDE CD
> drive and the SCSI. I've even added the PCI BEV Nvidia bootagent 229.052
> (whatever that is) and still no joy. Disconnecting the SATA drive
> allows the computer to boot.
>
> Any help much appreciated.
>
> Cheers
>
> Richard
> --
>
>
>
> .
>

You need to go into your BIOS and change the order of the hard disks so that
the SCSI shows first. If it is not listed in the BIOS (very possible, given
that most BIOS don't understand SCSI), then you'll need to do some fiddling
to remove the SATA drives from the list of boot devices.

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http://msmvps.com/blogs/russel




"Richard" <> wrote in message
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> Going on from my previous thread NTLDR I've got the computer booting up
> fine and have now added all the other SCSI drives, BUT when I add any of
> the SATA drives the computer fails to find the SCSI boot drive (C) I've
> tried altering the boot order which has the floppy, the IDE CD drive and
> the SCSI. I've even added the PCI BEV Nvidia bootagent 229.052 (whatever
> that is) and still no joy. Disconnecting the SATA drive allows the
> computer to boot.
>
> Any help much appreciated.
>
> Cheers
>
> Richard
> --
>
>
>

Thanks

After displaying the TYAN message for a time I then get a system error
message giving two options. Continue and run setup. If I continue I
then get a screen saying hit any key but if I do nothing it just moves
on and then stops at the error message Operating system not found.
Obviously taking the run setup option takes me to the BIOS screens.

In boot priority I have Legacy floppy drives, IDE CD, PCI SCSI and my
SCSI boot drive identified. It is still like this when I connect a SATA
drive.

In the excluded from boot order are the following:

PCI BEV: NVIDIA Boot Agent 229.052
PCI BEV: 2-NVIDIA Boot Agent229.0
PCI SCSI: 02,39320A B: 0 SEAGATE S
IDE CD: and then the name of that drive (I've got two CD drives on the
system)
Legacy Network card

I have all the other SCSI drives disconnected at this stage whilst
trouble shooting to keep things as simple as possible.

Hope that gives you some thoughts as to why connecting one SATA drive
brings up the booting problem and when it is unplugged there is no
booting problem.

Cheers

Richard


In his posting of Sat, 19 Dec 2009, Carlos writes
>Richard,
>What is the exact error message you are getting and in what part of the boot
>process?

>Carlos
>
>"Richard" wrote:
>
>> Going on from my previous thread NTLDR I've got the computer booting up
>> fine and have now added all the other SCSI drives, BUT when I add any of
>> the SATA drives the computer fails to find the SCSI boot drive (C)
>> I've tried altering the boot order which has the floppy, the IDE CD
>> drive and the SCSI. I've even added the PCI BEV Nvidia bootagent 229.052
>> (whatever that is) and still no joy. Disconnecting the SATA drive
>> allows the computer to boot.
>>
>> Any help much appreciated.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Richard
--

Richard,
All these facts point to a BIOS setting that needs to be adjusted.
TYAN's motherboard manual may have the answer you are looking for or maybe a
forum at TYAN's website.
Doesn't look as something that can be corrected from the OS.
Advanced BIOS settings are sometimes hidden and a combination of keys (like
Ctrl-F1 in some cases) may be necessary to unlock the more elaborate settings.
Carlos

"Richard" wrote:

> Thanks
>
> After displaying the TYAN message for a time I then get a system error
> message giving two options. Continue and run setup. If I continue I
> then get a screen saying hit any key but if I do nothing it just moves
> on and then stops at the error message Operating system not found.
> Obviously taking the run setup option takes me to the BIOS screens.
>
> In boot priority I have Legacy floppy drives, IDE CD, PCI SCSI and my
> SCSI boot drive identified. It is still like this when I connect a SATA
> drive.
>
> In the excluded from boot order are the following:
>
> PCI BEV: NVIDIA Boot Agent 229.052
> PCI BEV: 2-NVIDIA Boot Agent229.0
> PCI SCSI: 02,39320A B: 0 SEAGATE S
> IDE CD: and then the name of that drive (I've got two CD drives on the
> system)
> Legacy Network card
>
> I have all the other SCSI drives disconnected at this stage whilst
> trouble shooting to keep things as simple as possible.
>
> Hope that gives you some thoughts as to why connecting one SATA drive
> brings up the booting problem and when it is unplugged there is no
> booting problem.
>
> Cheers
>
> Richard
>
>
> In his posting of Sat, 19 Dec 2009, Carlos writes
> >Richard,
> >What is the exact error message you are getting and in what part of the boot
> >process?
>
> >Carlos
> >
> >"Richard" wrote:
> >
> >> Going on from my previous thread NTLDR I've got the computer booting up
> >> fine and have now added all the other SCSI drives, BUT when I add any of
> >> the SATA drives the computer fails to find the SCSI boot drive (C)
> >> I've tried altering the boot order which has the floppy, the IDE CD
> >> drive and the SCSI. I've even added the PCI BEV Nvidia bootagent 229.052
> >> (whatever that is) and still no joy. Disconnecting the SATA drive
> >> allows the computer to boot.
> >>
> >> Any help much appreciated.
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >>
> >> Richard
> --
>
>
>
> .
>

In his posting of Sat, 19 Dec 2009, Carlos writes
>Richard,
>All these facts point to a BIOS setting that needs to be adjusted.
>TYAN's motherboard manual may have the answer you are looking for or maybe a
>forum at TYAN's website.
>Doesn't look as something that can be corrected from the OS.
>Advanced BIOS settings are sometimes hidden and a combination of keys (like
>Ctrl-F1 in some cases) may be necessary to unlock the more elaborate settings.
>Carlos

Snip

Many thanks and my apologies to those here if I have strayed too far for
OS matters. Just to answer your suggestions. I have gone through the
BIOS very carefully whilst leafing through the Tyan manual and cannot
spot anything. I suspect the problem lies in my ignorance regarding how
one gets SATA drives to be recognised. I'm far more at home with SCSI
which never seems to give me any grief<G>

Cheers

Richard
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In his posting of Sat, 19 Dec 2009, Andy writes
snip
>Look at Hard Disk Drives under the Boot menu.

Andy I'm sure your comment was meant to be helpful but I need a little
more to go on to move forward with this.

The SCSI drive that is my boot drive is the only drive listed in the
boot order and the system boots up fine as long as I do not have any
SATA drives connected.....this is the problem. As soon as I connect a
SATA drive the system will not boot because for some strange reason it
cannot now see the SCSI boot drive. It was the removal of a pair of
SATA drives in Raid 0 that brought this unhappy state of affairs about,
but as I have wiped them I am unable to return to the past configuration
of a day ago.

Below is what is listed at the bottom of the boot section as being
excluded from boot order.

PCI BEV: NVIDIA Boot Agent 229.052
PCI BEV: 2-NVIDIA Boot Agent229.0
PCI SCSI: 02,39320A B: 0 SEAGATE S
IDE CD: and then the name of that drive (I've got two CD drives on the
system)
Legacy Network card

Thanks for any help anyone please.

Cheers

Richard
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Is your SCSI adapter built-in or an add-on card?

If it is an add-on (or treated as an add-on) you should find two menus
and need to rank add-on cards, or however it is described, above local
hard disks in the boot order.

It appears that local disks rank above add-ons in your boot order so,
when any disks are present, the SCSI disk is not recognised.


On 20/12/2009 10:17, Richard wrote:
> In his posting of Sat, 19 Dec 2009, Andy writes
> snip
>> Look at Hard Disk Drives under the Boot menu.
>
> Andy I'm sure your comment was meant to be helpful but I need a little
> more to go on to move forward with this.
>
> The SCSI drive that is my boot drive is the only drive listed in the
> boot order and the system boots up fine as long as I do not have any
> SATA drives connected.....this is the problem. As soon as I connect a
> SATA drive the system will not boot because for some strange reason it
> cannot now see the SCSI boot drive. It was the removal of a pair of SATA
> drives in Raid 0 that brought this unhappy state of affairs about, but
> as I have wiped them I am unable to return to the past configuration of
> a day ago.
>
> Below is what is listed at the bottom of the boot section as being
> excluded from boot order.
>
> PCI BEV: NVIDIA Boot Agent 229.052
> PCI BEV: 2-NVIDIA Boot Agent229.0
> PCI SCSI: 02,39320A B: 0 SEAGATE S
> IDE CD: and then the name of that drive (I've got two CD drives on the
> system)
> Legacy Network card
>
> Thanks for any help anyone please.
>
> Cheers
>
> Richard

Thanks Dominic for your questions and interest in my problems.

The SCSI drives are on an Adaptec card because the on board SCSI was
causing lots of problems from the very start when the system was
delivered four years ago and since then it has been very stable. The on
board SCSI controller is disabled in the BIOS.

As regards configuring the Adaptec SCSI card, I have never been able to
find where to do this unlike my other system where hitting 'A' (I think)
at boot up takes you to the SCSI BIOS. Perhaps you can shed some
light on this. The MB is a Tyan S2895 Thunder K8WE BTW.

Cheers

Richard

In his posting of Sun, 20 Dec 2009, Dominic Payer writes
>Is your SCSI adapter built-in or an add-on card?
>
>If it is an add-on (or treated as an add-on) you should find two menus and
>need to rank add-on cards, or however it is described, above local hard disks
>in the boot order.
>
>It appears that local disks rank above add-ons in your boot order so, when
>any disks are present, the SCSI disk is not recognised.
>
>
>On 20/12/2009 10:17, Richard wrote:
>> In his posting of Sat, 19 Dec 2009, Andy writes
>> snip
>>> Look at Hard Disk Drives under the Boot menu.
>>
>> Andy I'm sure your comment was meant to be helpful but I need a little
>> more to go on to move forward with this.
>>
>> The SCSI drive that is my boot drive is the only drive listed in the
>> boot order and the system boots up fine as long as I do not have any
>> SATA drives connected.....this is the problem. As soon as I connect a
>> SATA drive the system will not boot because for some strange reason it
>> cannot now see the SCSI boot drive. It was the removal of a pair of SATA
>> drives in Raid 0 that brought this unhappy state of affairs about, but
>> as I have wiped them I am unable to return to the past configuration of
>> a day ago.
>>
>> Below is what is listed at the bottom of the boot section as being
>> excluded from boot order.
>>
>> PCI BEV: NVIDIA Boot Agent 229.052
>> PCI BEV: 2-NVIDIA Boot Agent229.0
>> PCI SCSI: 02,39320A B: 0 SEAGATE S
>> IDE CD: and then the name of that drive (I've got two CD drives on the
>> system)
>> Legacy Network card
>>
>> Thanks for any help anyone please.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Richard

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Have you tried removing everything from the boot order except the SCSI?
Then add back until you find the item that invokes the SATA drives.
Alternately, you can add the boot files to the SATA drive pointing the
boot.ini back to the SCSI drive if that is where the OS is.

"Richard" <> wrote in message
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> Thanks Dominic for your questions and interest in my problems.
>
> The SCSI drives are on an Adaptec card because the on board SCSI was
> causing lots of problems from the very start when the system was
> delivered four years ago and since then it has been very stable. The on
> board SCSI controller is disabled in the BIOS.
>
> As regards configuring the Adaptec SCSI card, I have never been able to
> find where to do this unlike my other system where hitting 'A' (I think)
> at boot up takes you to the SCSI BIOS. Perhaps you can shed some
> light on this. The MB is a Tyan S2895 Thunder K8WE BTW.
>
> Cheers
>
> Richard
>
> In his posting of Sun, 20 Dec 2009, Dominic Payer writes
>>Is your SCSI adapter built-in or an add-on card?
>>
>>If it is an add-on (or treated as an add-on) you should find two menus and
>>need to rank add-on cards, or however it is described, above local hard
>>disks
>>in the boot order.
>>
>>It appears that local disks rank above add-ons in your boot order so, when
>>any disks are present, the SCSI disk is not recognised.
>>
>>
>>On 20/12/2009 10:17, Richard wrote:
>>> In his posting of Sat, 19 Dec 2009, Andy writes
>>> snip
>>>> Look at Hard Disk Drives under the Boot menu.
>>>
>>> Andy I'm sure your comment was meant to be helpful but I need a little
>>> more to go on to move forward with this.
>>>
>>> The SCSI drive that is my boot drive is the only drive listed in the
>>> boot order and the system boots up fine as long as I do not have any
>>> SATA drives connected.....this is the problem. As soon as I connect a
>>> SATA drive the system will not boot because for some strange reason it
>>> cannot now see the SCSI boot drive. It was the removal of a pair of SATA
>>> drives in Raid 0 that brought this unhappy state of affairs about, but
>>> as I have wiped them I am unable to return to the past configuration of
>>> a day ago.
>>>
>>> Below is what is listed at the bottom of the boot section as being
>>> excluded from boot order.
>>>
>>> PCI BEV: NVIDIA Boot Agent 229.052
>>> PCI BEV: 2-NVIDIA Boot Agent229.0
>>> PCI SCSI: 02,39320A B: 0 SEAGATE S
>>> IDE CD: and then the name of that drive (I've got two CD drives on the
>>> system)
>>> Legacy Network card
>>>
>>> Thanks for any help anyone please.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Richard
>
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>
>
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