Boot time defrag recovers 11gb?

Hi,
I've noticed that my disk space had been 'leaking'. I had 60gb free last
month and hade been down to 54 earlier in the week. I tried all sorts of
clean up methods but never really got back much. So, I did a boot time
defrag with a 3rd party product and all of a sudden I have 65 gb free. No
complaints but what happened here?

Something entirely unrelated happened. Defragging does not free up disk
space. It will give you a larger chunk of "contiguous" free space, but not a
megabyte more than what you had to begin with.

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Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)


"SwampYankee" <> wrote in message
news:. ..
> Hi,
> I've noticed that my disk space had been 'leaking'. I had 60gb free last
> month and hade been down to 54 earlier in the week. I tried all sorts of
> clean up methods but never really got back much. So, I did a boot time
> defrag with a 3rd party product and all of a sudden I have 65 gb free. No
> complaints but what happened here?

In article <>,
says...
> Something entirely unrelated happened. Defragging does not free up disk
> space. It will give you a larger chunk of "contiguous" free space, but not a
> megabyte more than what you had to begin with.
>
>
I know and I agree with you. This should not have happened. Nonetheless
this was not a coincidence. The most unusual thing that preceded this
was the removal of photoshop cs2 and office 2003 last week in an attempt
to reclaim diskspance. I got back less than 1/2 GB and expected alot
more. Sitll I didn't see any evidence of the programs on my hard drive.
Lets wait this out, I bet this happens again next moth.

One thing you forgot to consider, Richard, is that some of the defrags
delete the shadow copies and restore points. Ya think?

"Richard Urban" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Something entirely unrelated happened. Defragging does not free up disk
> space. It will give you a larger chunk of "contiguous" free space, but not
> a megabyte more than what you had to begin with.
>
> --
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard Urban
> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>
>
> "SwampYankee" <> wrote in message
> news:. ..
>> Hi,
>> I've noticed that my disk space had been 'leaking'. I had 60gb free last
>> month and hade been down to 54 earlier in the week. I tried all sorts of
>> clean up methods but never really got back much. So, I did a boot time
>> defrag with a 3rd party product and all of a sudden I have 65 gb free. No
>> complaints but what happened here?
>

John,

You are sooo right. I feel silly because I was in communication with
PerfectDisk about just that happening at the beginning of the year.

Can it be starting already - at 63 years yrs.?

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Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)


"John Barnes" <> wrote in message
news:...
> One thing you forgot to consider, Richard, is that some of the defrags
> delete the shadow copies and restore points. Ya think?
>
> "Richard Urban" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Something entirely unrelated happened. Defragging does not free up disk
>> space. It will give you a larger chunk of "contiguous" free space, but
>> not a megabyte more than what you had to begin with.
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Richard Urban
>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
>> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>>
>>
>> "SwampYankee" <> wrote in message
>> news:. ..
>>> Hi,
>>> I've noticed that my disk space had been 'leaking'. I had 60gb free
>>> last
>>> month and hade been down to 54 earlier in the week. I tried all sorts
>>> of
>>> clean up methods but never really got back much. So, I did a boot time
>>> defrag with a 3rd party product and all of a sudden I have 65 gb free.
>>> No
>>> complaints but what happened here?
>>
>

In article <>,
says...
> One thing you forgot to consider, Richard, is that some of the defrags
> delete the shadow copies and restore points. Ya think?
>
> "Richard Urban" <> wrote in message
> news:...
> > Something entirely unrelated happened. Defragging does not free up disk
> > space. It will give you a larger chunk of "contiguous" free space, but not
> > a megabyte more than what you had to begin with.
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Richard Urban
> > Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
> > (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
> >
> >
> > "SwampYankee" <> wrote in message
> > news:. ..
> >> Hi,
> >> I've noticed that my disk space had been 'leaking'. I had 60gb free last
> >> month and hade been down to 54 earlier in the week. I tried all sorts of
> >> clean up methods but never really got back much. So, I did a boot time
> >> defrag with a 3rd party product and all of a sudden I have 65 gb free. No
> >> complaints but what happened here?
> >
>
>
I have system restore turned off. I need the disk space and I am
religious about backups.

Doubt it, too many great posts. Hope the poster doesn't need those missing
restore points. He could always just turn the process off and not loose the
space to begin with.


"Richard Urban" <> wrote in message
news:%...
> John,
>
> You are sooo right. I feel silly because I was in communication with
> PerfectDisk about just that happening at the beginning of the year.
>
> Can it be starting already - at 63 years yrs.?
>
> --
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard Urban
> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>
>
> "John Barnes" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> One thing you forgot to consider, Richard, is that some of the defrags
>> delete the shadow copies and restore points. Ya think?
>>
>> "Richard Urban" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>> Something entirely unrelated happened. Defragging does not free up disk
>>> space. It will give you a larger chunk of "contiguous" free space, but
>>> not a megabyte more than what you had to begin with.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Richard Urban
>>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
>>> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>>>
>>>
>>> "SwampYankee" <> wrote in message
>>> news:. ..
>>>> Hi,
>>>> I've noticed that my disk space had been 'leaking'. I had 60gb free
>>>> last
>>>> month and hade been down to 54 earlier in the week. I tried all sorts
>>>> of
>>>> clean up methods but never really got back much. So, I did a boot
>>>> time
>>>> defrag with a 3rd party product and all of a sudden I have 65 gb free.
>>>> No
>>>> complaints but what happened here?
>>>
>>
>

Then, my friend, you have another condition on which I am drawing a blank.
(-:

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Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)


"SwampYankee" <> wrote in message
news:. ..
> In article <>,
> says...
>> One thing you forgot to consider, Richard, is that some of the defrags
>> delete the shadow copies and restore points. Ya think?
>>
>> "Richard Urban" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>> > Something entirely unrelated happened. Defragging does not free up disk
>> > space. It will give you a larger chunk of "contiguous" free space, but
>> > not
>> > a megabyte more than what you had to begin with.
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Richard Urban
>> > Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
>> > (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>> >
>> >
>> > "SwampYankee" <> wrote in message
>> > news:. ..
>> >> Hi,
>> >> I've noticed that my disk space had been 'leaking'. I had 60gb free
>> >> last
>> >> month and hade been down to 54 earlier in the week. I tried all sorts
>> >> of
>> >> clean up methods but never really got back much. So, I did a boot
>> >> time
>> >> defrag with a 3rd party product and all of a sudden I have 65 gb free.
>> >> No
>> >> complaints but what happened here?
>> >
>>
>>
> I have system restore turned off. I need the disk space and I am
> religious about backups.

If it has been a couple of days, go into program files, right click on any
folder and select previous versions. Anything there? If not, then I would
certainly be checking to see what is being deleted. Richard is correct that
a defrag should NOT delete anything, only move file fragments around.

"SwampYankee" <> wrote in message
news:. ..
> In article <>,
> says...
>> One thing you forgot to consider, Richard, is that some of the defrags
>> delete the shadow copies and restore points. Ya think?
>>
>> "Richard Urban" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>> > Something entirely unrelated happened. Defragging does not free up disk
>> > space. It will give you a larger chunk of "contiguous" free space, but
>> > not
>> > a megabyte more than what you had to begin with.
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Richard Urban
>> > Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
>> > (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>> >
>> >
>> > "SwampYankee" <> wrote in message
>> > news:. ..
>> >> Hi,
>> >> I've noticed that my disk space had been 'leaking'. I had 60gb free
>> >> last
>> >> month and hade been down to 54 earlier in the week. I tried all sorts
>> >> of
>> >> clean up methods but never really got back much. So, I did a boot
>> >> time
>> >> defrag with a 3rd party product and all of a sudden I have 65 gb free.
>> >> No
>> >> complaints but what happened here?
>> >
>>
>>
> I have system restore turned off. I need the disk space and I am
> religious about backups.

In article <OF5w#>,
says...
> Then, my friend, you have another condition on which I am drawing a blank.
> (-:
>
>
I said I had system restore turned off, I didn't say it was never on.
Apparently PerfectDisk, you guessed correctly, cleaned up the old system
restore stuff. Thanks for you help though.
BTW, 63? You are way to old to be here, turn in your mouse and get back
on the command line where you belong :-)
Best regards