Boot times vs Shutdown times

Trying to reduce boot times is nice and all... but it should not be done at
the cost of "shutdown time".

Windows 7 takes much longer to shutdown than Windows XP and it's quite
annoying.

Now I read this slashdot article and things are about to get worse with
Windows 8 it seems:

More shutdown time BAH !

http://slashdot.org/

Bye,
Skybuck.

Trying to reduce boot times is nice and all... but it should not be done at
the cost of "shutdown time".

Windows 7 takes much longer to shutdown than Windows XP and it's quite
annoying.

Now I read this slashdot article and things are about to get worse with
Windows 8 it seems:

More shutdown time BAH !

http://slashdot.org/

Link to article:

http://tech.slashdot.org/story/11/09...t-Startup-Mode

Bye,
Skybuck.

In message <3b3b5$4e6ac6a9$5419acc3$ me.nl>
someone claiming to be "Skybuck Flying" <>
typed:

>Trying to reduce boot times is nice and all... but it should not be done at
>the cost of "shutdown time".

Why not? Boot times are something the user must wait for, and cannot be
avoided. Shutdown times barely matter, since you can tell the machine
to shut down and walk away without waiting.

>Windows 7 takes much longer to shutdown than Windows XP and it's quite
>annoying.

Mine doesn't, shutdown here is noticeably faster on my desktop and was
on my laptop last I compared.

>Now I read this slashdot article and things are about to get worse with
>Windows 8 it seems:
>
>More shutdown time BAH !
>
>http://slashdot.org/

It also occurs to me that the new hibernate file may not need to be
re-written on every shutdown anyway, once one is saved it might be
possible to re-use it.

It probably depends on the situation.

People who want to start working for many hours with the computer can surely
wait a few seconds at boot time, those few seconds don't matter.

People who want to get to bed don't want to wait many minutes or hours for
windows shutdown to finish updating and what not.

Also people in a hurry and which most go do not have the time to wait for
shutdown.

Other examples includes students which have to log out from systems because
the hour is gone... they must make room for other students.

Here log out time matters more then login time.

Overal I think shutdown time is probably even more important than boot time.

Give me one good example where a quick startup time is essential ?

I can barely remember anything really...

Bye,
Skybuck.

Why wait? Just turn off your monitor or close the lid and walk away, go to
bed, or whatever. Give me one reason why one would want to wait and monitor
the shutdown process?


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"Skybuck Flying" <> wrote in message
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> It probably depends on the situation.
>
> People who want to start working for many hours with the computer can
> surely wait a few seconds at boot time, those few seconds don't matter.
>
> People who want to get to bed don't want to wait many minutes or hours for
> windows shutdown to finish updating and what not.
>
> Also people in a hurry and which most go do not have the time to wait for
> shutdown.
>
> Other examples includes students which have to log out from systems
> because the hour is gone... they must make room for other students.
>
> Here log out time matters more then login time.
>
> Overal I think shutdown time is probably even more important than boot
> time.
>
> Give me one good example where a quick startup time is essential ?
>
> I can barely remember anything really...
>
> Bye,
> Skybuck.

"BullDawg" <Don't Email > wrote in message
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> Why wait? Just turn off your monitor or close the lid and walk away, go
> to
> bed, or whatever. Give me one reason why one would want to wait and
> monitor
> the shutdown process?
Because all it takes is an uncooperative process for Windows to wait forever
to close to prevent a shut down. After this walking away after pushing
shutdown to only the find Windows is waiting for this program screen in the
morning I need to see a black screen for closure. Makes me yearn for
Win9x's fast shutdowns.

"
Why wait? Just turn off your monitor or close the lid and walk away, go to
bed, or whatever. Give me one reason why one would want to wait and monitor
the shutdown process?
"

1. Bugs/problems during shutdown it happens, it never shuts down.

Little problems can lead to big problems like:

2. High electricity bill.

3. High temperatures, system damage.

4. Fire.

5. Maybe even hackers, internet, wifi etc.

6. Dust build up.

7. Fan failure.

8. Insects getting sucked in.

9. Lightning strike at night.

10. Power troubles at night with power company.

11. Unnecessary tearing of harddisk when it never shutsdown.

12. Other odd behaviour.

That's plenty already.

13. Perhaps a quick restart because you forgot to do something important
before leaving.

Bye,
Skybuck.

Then you have a bigger problem than shutdown. Slow shutdowns are the
symptom, not the cause. You need to find the cause, correct it and the slow
shutdown will go away. BTW, my shutdown takes 17 seconds from clicking on
shutdown to power off. Cold boots take 45 seconds.
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"Skybuck Flying" <> wrote in message
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> "
> Why wait? Just turn off your monitor or close the lid and walk away, go
> to
> bed, or whatever. Give me one reason why one would want to wait and
> monitor
> the shutdown process?
> "
>
> 1. Bugs/problems during shutdown it happens, it never shuts down.
>
> Little problems can lead to big problems like:
>
> 2. High electricity bill.
>
> 3. High temperatures, system damage.
>
> 4. Fire.
>
> 5. Maybe even hackers, internet, wifi etc.
>
> 6. Dust build up.
>
> 7. Fan failure.
>
> 8. Insects getting sucked in.
>
> 9. Lightning strike at night.
>
> 10. Power troubles at night with power company.
>
> 11. Unnecessary tearing of harddisk when it never shutsdown.
>
> 12. Other odd behaviour.
>
> That's plenty already.
>
> 13. Perhaps a quick restart because you forgot to do something important
> before leaving.
>
> Bye,
> Skybuck.

Ofcourse not.

It's a Microsoft problem, they fok up all the time.

It's actually quite a bad idea to do updates during a shutdown when people
walk away.

They have no idea that an update was applied.

If the next day the computer malfunctions then they won't know because it
was because of an update.

Perhaps it's a conspiracy by Microsoft to try and hide problems caused by
updates.

Bye,
Skybuck.

*plonk* I was trying to be nice, but I forgot: DNFTT

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"Skybuck Flying" <> wrote in message
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> Ofcourse not...
>