Hi Victor--
Darrell Gorter [MSFT] a frequent contributor here has startup expertise and
the ability to perhaps help answer your questions as to the nuts and bolts
of the boot process.
I don't have any expertise on the physiology of the Vista boot process.
Sure I can give you all the detailed steps, but I don't know the answer to
why it may take that extra minute. I know my Boot to Windows is pretty
fast, but I have to wait as long as a minute to get the One Care icon to
load in the Notification area. One thing that may be of help is to try to
cut down what starts up to the bare minimum using msconfig and perhaps the
run once regristry key.
Type msconfig into the run box and see if you can eliminate things that
start by taking the checkmark out of what you don't need running when you
start. Also take a look at services and shut down some of the services that
are runinng in Vista for which you don't even have hdw and software and
probably never will. These should apply to Vista.
Control What Starts in Vista with MSCONFIG:
http://www.fixmyvista.com/content/view/14/26/
Disable services you don't need running that default start in Vista (you'll
find you don't have the hdw for some of them or the software most likely):
Vista Services*
Part One
http://www.tweakvista.com/article38662.aspx
Part Two
http://www.tweakvista.com/article38664.aspx
Windows Vista Services Tweak Guide v1.0
http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=87443
Also a tip that will help you is this info: Vista runs everything that is
in the Vista Startup Folder:
I have paraphrased this information from Woody Leohnard's excellent book:
Windows Timesaving Techniques for Dummies. Like all Woody's books, this is
very useful.
C:\ [or whatever drive or partition you parked Vista on in case you're multi
or dual booting]\Program Data\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Startup
and
your personal startup folder C:\Users\[User Name]\App
Data\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Startup
every time you log on or startup.
Scheduled tasks get run from the C:\Windows\Scheduled tasks folder.
Windows Defender ships with Vista. I use One Care so I don't run Defender
because One Care has it's own built in spyware detector however, hidden in
Defender is a place where you can detect what's starting up.
It's called Software Explorer.
How to use the Windows Defender Software Explorer
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...eexplorer.mspx
Go to Start>All Programs>Windows Defender>Tools>Software Explorer
link>Category Drop Down Box>Startup Programs. You get a list and you can
right click each program that starts up on that list and find the source.
To prevent a program you don't want to startup, click once on the list item
and then in the lower rt. hand corner, click disable. When it asks you if
you're sure, say yes. If the program is listed twice, you have to disable
it at both locations. Don't remove the program, just disable it. This will
allow you to reverse your decision if you want to later, and if it is
malware, disabling rather than removing helps you figure how it got onto
your box in the first place.
This will keep it from running on start, but as I said above not every
program can be disabled from Defender. For some you have to hit all the
startup folders and the run once keys.
Sometimes Rundll32 is a wrapper that runs programs, and you'll have to find
the source of the program in the Defender list on the right pane to find out
where to stop one of these programs.
When you're finished with the Process Explorer list, click "X" to return to
Vista.
Although many people will say on groups that msconfig will control what
starts completely, that's just not true. Ed Bott wrote an excellent chapter
on this in his XP Inside Out and covers this admirably in his Vista Inside
Out as well (pp. 137-142).
INFO: Run, RunOnce, RunServices, RunServicesOnce and Startup
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/179365
Definition of the RunOnce Keys in the Registry
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/137367
Good luck,
CH
"Victor Charles" <Victor
> wrote in message
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> Booting up with Vista is a strange experience and I have a
> comment/suggestion.
>
> After I logon to my user account, the desktop appears, seemingly
> everything
> is ready to go. But, in reality, Windows is busy chugging along in the
> background, which is understandable. I have a new lapttop with plenty of
> memory and 2 processors, so I don't have to wait long, but I DO have to
> wait
> before I do anything. I have to wait for almost a full minute before I
> start
> clicking around BECAUSE:
>
> After Windows is done chugging around for awhile, the desktop goes
> completely black for an instant, then it is redrawn AND the mouse pointer
> snaps to the center of the screen.
>
> Something similar used to happen back in Windows 98. After the user's
> desktop appeared and Windows chugged for awhile, the desktop icons would
> disappear and then be redrawn.
>
> What is it with you guys, why can't you get a handle on the whole desktop
> thing man? If you're going to display it to the user and let her click
> around
> and begin work, DON'T snap around the mouse pointer that is SO utterly
> lame.
> How did this get past usability testing??????
>
> Oh, and I just uninstalled a program that had installed a shortcut on the
> desktop, and after I uninstalled the program, the shortcut was still
> displayed on the desktop. When I attempted to delete the shortcut item, I
> got
> a message from Windows saying it couldn't find the item!!!! And, even
> AFTER
> that attempt, the shortcut still remained on the desktop and the mouseover
> effects were still running for it, etc... Guess I have to wait for a
> reboot
> for the desktop to repaint itself properly. Damn that's lame and a sorry
> sorry bug for a system this advanced to be displaying.
>
> I hate starting up my computer now, after I log on to my account, I have
> to
> go do something for a few minutes to make sure that I wait for the frikkin
> mouse pointer *snap*. Snaps my brain that you guys let this go by it's
> just
> freaky.
>
>
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