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      11-07-2011
Some months ago, I experienced three or four power outages within a
few days while my computer was on. I do not have a UPS. Since then, I
intermittently get a BSOD on startup. Sometimes Vista recovers upon
restart, sometimes I get another one. Usually after the second, Vista
recovers - I've had a third only a few times, and never a fourth. When
Vista recovers, it runs perfectly normally, except after my desktop
appears, I get a completely white screen for a few seconds, then the
desktop returns and all is well. Is there something I can do other
than reinstall Vista?
 
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Ken Springer
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      11-07-2011
On 11/7/11 5:26 AM, drahcir wrote:
> Some months ago, I experienced three or four power outages within a
> few days while my computer was on. I do not have a UPS. Since then, I
> intermittently get a BSOD on startup. Sometimes Vista recovers upon
> restart, sometimes I get another one. Usually after the second, Vista
> recovers - I've had a third only a few times, and never a fourth. When
> Vista recovers, it runs perfectly normally, except after my desktop
> appears, I get a completely white screen for a few seconds, then the
> desktop returns and all is well. Is there something I can do other
> than reinstall Vista?


Up front, I know a lot more about XP than I do Vista, but I'm starting
to learn more about Vista.

That being said, just in case the lightning strikes caused some damage
to the data on the hard drive, the first thing I would do is run chkdsk.

http://kb.wisc.edu/page.php?id=6565#no-CD
http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/67...sk-chkdsk.html

The check disk routines can take hours and hours, there are a lot of
variables. I've been watching a discussion about that in a thread in
the XP General newsgroup.

You could also go to the hard drive manufacturer's website and download
their tools and check the drive.

Then, try the recovery options.

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/w...covery-Console


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      11-07-2011
On Mon, 07 Nov 2011 09:23:19 -0700, Ken Springer
<> wrote:

>On 11/7/11 5:26 AM, drahcir wrote:
>> Some months ago, I experienced three or four power outages within a
>> few days while my computer was on. I do not have a UPS. Since then, I
>> intermittently get a BSOD on startup. Sometimes Vista recovers upon
>> restart, sometimes I get another one. Usually after the second, Vista
>> recovers - I've had a third only a few times, and never a fourth. When
>> Vista recovers, it runs perfectly normally, except after my desktop
>> appears, I get a completely white screen for a few seconds, then the
>> desktop returns and all is well. Is there something I can do other
>> than reinstall Vista?

>
>Up front, I know a lot more about XP than I do Vista, but I'm starting
>to learn more about Vista.
>
>That being said, just in case the lightning strikes caused some damage
>to the data on the hard drive, the first thing I would do is run chkdsk.
>
>http://kb.wisc.edu/page.php?id=6565#no-CD
>http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/67...sk-chkdsk.html
>
>The check disk routines can take hours and hours, there are a lot of
>variables. I've been watching a discussion about that in a thread in
>the XP General newsgroup.
>
>You could also go to the hard drive manufacturer's website and download
>their tools and check the drive.
>
>Then, try the recovery options.
>
>http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/w...covery-Console


Thanks for your reply. I neglected to mention that I ran chkdsk and
did the vista memory test - no errors.
 
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      11-07-2011
On 11/7/11 11:14 AM, drahcir wrote:
> On Mon, 07 Nov 2011 09:23:19 -0700, Ken Springer
> <> wrote:
>
>> On 11/7/11 5:26 AM, drahcir wrote:
>>> Some months ago, I experienced three or four power outages within a
>>> few days while my computer was on. I do not have a UPS. Since then, I
>>> intermittently get a BSOD on startup. Sometimes Vista recovers upon
>>> restart, sometimes I get another one. Usually after the second, Vista
>>> recovers - I've had a third only a few times, and never a fourth. When
>>> Vista recovers, it runs perfectly normally, except after my desktop
>>> appears, I get a completely white screen for a few seconds, then the
>>> desktop returns and all is well. Is there something I can do other
>>> than reinstall Vista?

>>
>> Up front, I know a lot more about XP than I do Vista, but I'm starting
>> to learn more about Vista.
>>
>> That being said, just in case the lightning strikes caused some damage
>> to the data on the hard drive, the first thing I would do is run chkdsk.
>>
>> http://kb.wisc.edu/page.php?id=6565#no-CD
>> http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/67...sk-chkdsk.html
>>
>> The check disk routines can take hours and hours, there are a lot of
>> variables. I've been watching a discussion about that in a thread in
>> the XP General newsgroup.
>>
>> You could also go to the hard drive manufacturer's website and download
>> their tools and check the drive.
>>
>> Then, try the recovery options.
>>
>> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/w...covery-Console

>
> Thanks for your reply. I neglected to mention that I ran chkdsk and
> did the vista memory test - no errors.


What about any of the other recovery options? And the hard drive's
tools from the manufacturer?

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      11-07-2011
On Mon, 07 Nov 2011 11:28:26 -0700, Ken Springer
<> wrote:

>On 11/7/11 11:14 AM, drahcir wrote:
>> On Mon, 07 Nov 2011 09:23:19 -0700, Ken Springer
>> <> wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/7/11 5:26 AM, drahcir wrote:
>>>> Some months ago, I experienced three or four power outages within a
>>>> few days while my computer was on. I do not have a UPS. Since then, I
>>>> intermittently get a BSOD on startup. Sometimes Vista recovers upon
>>>> restart, sometimes I get another one. Usually after the second, Vista
>>>> recovers - I've had a third only a few times, and never a fourth. When
>>>> Vista recovers, it runs perfectly normally, except after my desktop
>>>> appears, I get a completely white screen for a few seconds, then the
>>>> desktop returns and all is well. Is there something I can do other
>>>> than reinstall Vista?
>>>
>>> Up front, I know a lot more about XP than I do Vista, but I'm starting
>>> to learn more about Vista.
>>>
>>> That being said, just in case the lightning strikes caused some damage
>>> to the data on the hard drive, the first thing I would do is run chkdsk.
>>>
>>> http://kb.wisc.edu/page.php?id=6565#no-CD
>>> http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/67...sk-chkdsk.html
>>>
>>> The check disk routines can take hours and hours, there are a lot of
>>> variables. I've been watching a discussion about that in a thread in
>>> the XP General newsgroup.
>>>
>>> You could also go to the hard drive manufacturer's website and download
>>> their tools and check the drive.
>>>
>>> Then, try the recovery options.
>>>
>>> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/w...covery-Console

>>
>> Thanks for your reply. I neglected to mention that I ran chkdsk and
>> did the vista memory test - no errors.

>
>What about any of the other recovery options? And the hard drive's
>tools from the manufacturer?


I'm not sure what you mean by "recvovery" - I haven't lost anything -
the computer starts normally after 1 or 2 BSOD's.
 
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      11-07-2011
On 11/7/11 12:20 PM, drahcir wrote:
> On Mon, 07 Nov 2011 11:28:26 -0700, Ken Springer
> <> wrote:
>
>> On 11/7/11 11:14 AM, drahcir wrote:
>>> On Mon, 07 Nov 2011 09:23:19 -0700, Ken Springer
>>> <> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 11/7/11 5:26 AM, drahcir wrote:
>>>>> Some months ago, I experienced three or four power outages within a
>>>>> few days while my computer was on. I do not have a UPS. Since then, I
>>>>> intermittently get a BSOD on startup. Sometimes Vista recovers upon
>>>>> restart, sometimes I get another one. Usually after the second, Vista
>>>>> recovers - I've had a third only a few times, and never a fourth. When
>>>>> Vista recovers, it runs perfectly normally, except after my desktop
>>>>> appears, I get a completely white screen for a few seconds, then the
>>>>> desktop returns and all is well. Is there something I can do other
>>>>> than reinstall Vista?
>>>>
>>>> Up front, I know a lot more about XP than I do Vista, but I'm starting
>>>> to learn more about Vista.
>>>>
>>>> That being said, just in case the lightning strikes caused some damage
>>>> to the data on the hard drive, the first thing I would do is run chkdsk.
>>>>
>>>> http://kb.wisc.edu/page.php?id=6565#no-CD
>>>> http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/67...sk-chkdsk.html
>>>>
>>>> The check disk routines can take hours and hours, there are a lot of
>>>> variables. I've been watching a discussion about that in a thread in
>>>> the XP General newsgroup.
>>>>
>>>> You could also go to the hard drive manufacturer's website and download
>>>> their tools and check the drive.
>>>>
>>>> Then, try the recovery options.
>>>>
>>>> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/w...covery-Console
>>>
>>> Thanks for your reply. I neglected to mention that I ran chkdsk and
>>> did the vista memory test - no errors.

>>
>> What about any of the other recovery options? And the hard drive's
>> tools from the manufacturer?

>
> I'm not sure what you mean by "recvovery" - I haven't lost anything -
> the computer starts normally after 1 or 2 BSOD's.


Any of these other recovery options?

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/w...-Windows-Vista

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      11-08-2011
On Mon, 07 Nov 2011 13:09:29 -0700, Ken Springer
<> wrote:

>On 11/7/11 12:20 PM, drahcir wrote:
>> On Mon, 07 Nov 2011 11:28:26 -0700, Ken Springer
>> <> wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/7/11 11:14 AM, drahcir wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 07 Nov 2011 09:23:19 -0700, Ken Springer
>>>> <> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 11/7/11 5:26 AM, drahcir wrote:
>>>>>> Some months ago, I experienced three or four power outages within a
>>>>>> few days while my computer was on. I do not have a UPS. Since then, I
>>>>>> intermittently get a BSOD on startup. Sometimes Vista recovers upon
>>>>>> restart, sometimes I get another one. Usually after the second, Vista
>>>>>> recovers - I've had a third only a few times, and never a fourth. When
>>>>>> Vista recovers, it runs perfectly normally, except after my desktop
>>>>>> appears, I get a completely white screen for a few seconds, then the
>>>>>> desktop returns and all is well. Is there something I can do other
>>>>>> than reinstall Vista?
>>>>>
>>>>> Up front, I know a lot more about XP than I do Vista, but I'm starting
>>>>> to learn more about Vista.
>>>>>
>>>>> That being said, just in case the lightning strikes caused some damage
>>>>> to the data on the hard drive, the first thing I would do is run chkdsk.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://kb.wisc.edu/page.php?id=6565#no-CD
>>>>> http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/67...sk-chkdsk.html
>>>>>
>>>>> The check disk routines can take hours and hours, there are a lot of
>>>>> variables. I've been watching a discussion about that in a thread in
>>>>> the XP General newsgroup.
>>>>>
>>>>> You could also go to the hard drive manufacturer's website and download
>>>>> their tools and check the drive.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then, try the recovery options.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/w...covery-Console
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your reply. I neglected to mention that I ran chkdsk and
>>>> did the vista memory test - no errors.
>>>
>>> What about any of the other recovery options? And the hard drive's
>>> tools from the manufacturer?

>>
>> I'm not sure what you mean by "recvovery" - I haven't lost anything -
>> the computer starts normally after 1 or 2 BSOD's.

>
>Any of these other recovery options?
>
>http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/w...-Windows-Vista


Yes, I've tried that, thank you. No help
 
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      11-08-2011
On 11/7/11 6:53 PM, drahcir wrote:
> On Mon, 07 Nov 2011 13:09:29 -0700, Ken Springer
> <> wrote:
>
>> On 11/7/11 12:20 PM, drahcir wrote:
>>> On Mon, 07 Nov 2011 11:28:26 -0700, Ken Springer
>>> <> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 11/7/11 11:14 AM, drahcir wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 07 Nov 2011 09:23:19 -0700, Ken Springer
>>>>> <> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/7/11 5:26 AM, drahcir wrote:
>>>>>>> Some months ago, I experienced three or four power outages within a
>>>>>>> few days while my computer was on. I do not have a UPS. Since then, I
>>>>>>> intermittently get a BSOD on startup. Sometimes Vista recovers upon
>>>>>>> restart, sometimes I get another one. Usually after the second, Vista
>>>>>>> recovers - I've had a third only a few times, and never a fourth. When
>>>>>>> Vista recovers, it runs perfectly normally, except after my desktop
>>>>>>> appears, I get a completely white screen for a few seconds, then the
>>>>>>> desktop returns and all is well. Is there something I can do other
>>>>>>> than reinstall Vista?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Up front, I know a lot more about XP than I do Vista, but I'm starting
>>>>>> to learn more about Vista.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That being said, just in case the lightning strikes caused some damage
>>>>>> to the data on the hard drive, the first thing I would do is run chkdsk.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://kb.wisc.edu/page.php?id=6565#no-CD
>>>>>> http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/67...sk-chkdsk.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The check disk routines can take hours and hours, there are a lot of
>>>>>> variables. I've been watching a discussion about that in a thread in
>>>>>> the XP General newsgroup.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You could also go to the hard drive manufacturer's website and download
>>>>>> their tools and check the drive.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then, try the recovery options.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/w...covery-Console
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your reply. I neglected to mention that I ran chkdsk and
>>>>> did the vista memory test - no errors.
>>>>
>>>> What about any of the other recovery options? And the hard drive's
>>>> tools from the manufacturer?
>>>
>>> I'm not sure what you mean by "recvovery" - I haven't lost anything -
>>> the computer starts normally after 1 or 2 BSOD's.

>>
>> Any of these other recovery options?
>>
>> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/w...-Windows-Vista

>
> Yes, I've tried that, thank you. No help


We are rapidly coming to the end of my suggestions! LOL

Have you run a really good full scan for viruses, and such? Checked for
a rootkit issue?

For the virus idea, I would suggest booting into Safe Mode with
Networking, or the Vista equivalent, then download Malwarebytes,
install, and run. I would choose Malwarebytes because that is what MS
Tech Support ran on a computer here when I had problems. Even better
would be to remove the drive, attach to another computer and run the
scan there.

You'll have to find a rootkit removal program you feel good about
running. I've used the one from Avast a couple of times, but even after
RTFM, I'm not sure I understood my options if the virus had been found.

But, in my case, my plan is usually to reinstall the OS anyway, so
whether I actually fix it or not, I don't care. I'm just looking for
problems to get an idea of what was wrong in the first place. I follow
the advice you can find on the Tech-net site when you have an infected
system.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../cc700813.aspx


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