I have had the same problem (with FR instead of DE trying to oust US), with the same cause and the same remedy "VanguardLH" accurately pointed.
I used to carry my PC (chosen, purchased, paid, configured, maintained, troubleshooted, by *myself*) from home to office and back daily, here in France (Versailles and Paris). My PC (as all the computers I ever used or installed for me and around me at home or office for 32 years, on which I developed a lot of scientific software in most OSes and programming languages available then) is entirely in original US version (keyboard, OS, apps, etc). I got French updates wrongly proposed by Windows Update (Microsoft Update didn't exist yet). Fortunately I NEVER accepted any "Automatic" Updates, so I simply declined, and by visiting Windows Update normally I got the normal US Updates.
I later realized that the situation was exactly the one you, "VanguardLH", are accurately pointing today: the FR updates were proposed to me ONLY when connected at the lab, because this was forced by our IT "service".
In conclusion, my advice to OP "WindowsXP User":
1) I thank you for your accurate bug report, and I warmly second your very well said suggestion:
« Make the automatic check look for the language of the operating system, not for the location of the computer ».
Hopefully MS people here (no matter staff or "volunteers") will NOT this time decline to escalate, as far as they can, the problem to MS development teams.
2) I strongly recommend to NEVER accept any "advices" like "Automatic Updates". Just visit
http://www.update.microsoft.com each 2nd Tuesday and choose "Custom" (Refuse "Express" of course). More generally:
- refuse as strongly as you can any automatic refresh (for this, go to "IE > Tools > Internet Options > General > Temporary Internet Files > Settings > Check for newer versions of stored pages:" and check "Never")
- refuse as strongly as you can all the useless damageable destructions of valuable data that gurus love to order, like "flush your web cache", "destroy your cookies", etc (such blind massive destructions are proven to rarely improve anything, but to unnecessarily slow you down, thus giving some relief to some incompetent unhelpful "help" desks while you are uselessly busy destroying your own stuff and system).
Versailles, Wed 16 Dec 2009 15:51:55 +0100
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From: "VanguardLH" <>
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Sent: Mon 07 Dec 2009 09:31:14 -0600 (15:31:14 GMT)
Subject: Re: Bug InternetExplorer Update
WindowsXP User wrote:
> We have automatic update.
Who is "we"? Your company?
Automatic updates come from where? If you are using a company computer then it should be obtaining updates from the company's SMS server, not from Microsoft's Windows Update site. The company may not want updates installed on THEIR property until they have validated them under their sysprep images on their hosts. When the company decides to allow an update, it is on their SMS server and that's from where you are supposed to obtain your updates.
> Now the automatic update and also the manual update finds out where I am and tries to install the German version.
Because the SMS server at your company is pushing updates in German only.
> This does not work.
"Does not work" obviously says absolutely nothing about what happened.
> There is no error message,
Then how do you know the unidentified update "did not work"?
> but Windows Explorer 7
That would be *Internet* Explorer 7.
> was automatically deinstalled beforehand.
By the problematic update? Then it wasn't uninstalled beforehand. By you? If so, why?
> As a result, I worked with Windows Explorer 6
That would be *Internet* Explorer 6.
> without noticing.
Without noticing what? Updates that "do not work" (whatever that means) and that produce no error messages (which you don't then explain how you know "it" doesn't work)?
> Also other patches were not installed without any warning.
So what do you have the Automatic Updates in Windows configured regarding updates? Is it configured to automatically download and install updates? If you're logging into a domain, the company can push policies that enable automatic updates (which download and install) from their SMS server. Those won't be just updates from Microsoft but any other updates your company wants to push onto their property.
> This is a big security gap.
Depends on what is the unidentified update. If the problem is with a choice of language, that is not a security issue.
> Please close it.
We can't do anything about Microsoft's software. This is a peer community of *users*. Perhaps you are unaware of what is Usenet (newsgroups) or the Microsoft forums where you are posting is a gateway to Usenet gateway to provide a webnews-for-dummies interface to Usenet-ignorant users.
What is Usenet:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newsgroups
http://www.masonicinfo.com/newsgroups.htm
http://www.mcfedries.com/Ramblings/usenet-primer.asp
When using a webnews-for-dummies interface, like Microsoft's Communities or Google Groups or a forum-to-Usenet proxy, those are gateways to Usenet. Despite the appearance of a forum, you are still participating in a newsgroup (Usenet).
> Make the automatic check look for the language of the operating system, not for the location of the computer.
Talk to the IT folks at your company about their SMS server or however they are pushing updates on the company's hosts.
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From: "WindowsXP User" <WindowsXP
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Sent: Mon 07 Dec 2009 04:57:03 -0800 (12:57:03 GMT)
Subject: Bug InternetExplorer Update
We have automatic update.
In Germany on a PC with an english operating system.
Within the company all other computers are German.
Now the automatic update and also the manual update finds out where I am and tries to install the German version.
This does not work. There is no error message, but Windows Explorer 7 was automatically deinstalled beforehand.
As a result, I worked with Windows Explorer 6 without noticing.
Also other patches were not installed without any warning.
This is a big security gap.
Please close it.
Make the automatic check look for the language of the operating system, not for the location of the computer.
Cheers
A WindowsXP User
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