Can you trust Microsoft or the U. S. Government?

More than once Microsoft has been caught red handed lying. They
originally claimed their built-in security didn't phone home to let
Microsoft know if your copy of Windows was legit or not. They later
admitted not only that Vista calls home, it does so repeatedly, in
secret behind your back over and over after a widely publicized news
story exposed the scheme when the validation server Vista contacts
went haywire and started to accuse legal users of having a counterfeit
copy of Vista and actually prevented innocent people from using their
computer.

Some might be interested to know Microsoft has been al ledged to work
closely with the NSA (super secret National Security Agency) and some
claim cryptographic public keys are embedded in every copy of Windows
with both Microsoft and the NSA having a "key" (backdoor) to ANY
user's system bypassing all security and passwords. Not saying it is
true or false, but does make interesting reading.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSAKEY

Then consider WHO Microsoft contacted to make Vista "safe", yep, the
NSA. Curious, reminds me of a line from a Star Trek movie, "What does
God need with a starship?" well duh, why does Microsoft need help
writing a operating system form some super secret spy organization?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...010801352.html

We all know Microsoft programmers are reckless. So consider this
article: Note the date, late 90's so this has been going on for a long
time.

http://www.heise.de/tp/r4/artikel/5/5263/1.html

Ok, you're a trusting sole and don't think the government would ever
spy on it's citizens.

Oh really? Then you haven't been following the AT&T whistle blower
Mark Klein, a AT&T Engineer in San Francisco that spilled the beans.
This was a active law suite by the Electronic Frontier Foundation, a
well known watch dog group that monitors the computer industry. It
took a act of Congress to stop the law suit from going forward.

http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/200...istleblow.html

What's all the fuss about?

Simple, AT&T is one of the biggest players and a major backbone
linking major Internet networks. Well guess what, this AT&T engineer
discovered a secret room in one of AT&T major switching centers where
a great deal of Internet traffic, including email passes through where
only NSA operatives had access to. In effect the NSA was plugged in
and monitoring EVERYTHING.

SCARY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ke9bzb4n_Aw


Sleep well America.

What brand of LUBE do you use when you shove your head up Microsoft's ****
encrusted ass?

"Ringmaster" <> wrote in message
news:...
> More than once Microsoft has been caught red handed lying. They
> originally claimed their built-in security didn't phone home to let
> Microsoft know if your copy of Windows was legit or not. They later
> admitted not only that Vista calls home, it does so repeatedly, in
> secret behind your back over and over after a widely publicized news
> story exposed the scheme when the validation server Vista contacts
> went haywire and started to accuse legal users of having a counterfeit
> copy of Vista and actually prevented innocent people from using their
> computer.
>
> Some might be interested to know Microsoft has been al ledged to work
> closely with the NSA (super secret National Security Agency) and some
> claim cryptographic public keys are embedded in every copy of Windows
> with both Microsoft and the NSA having a "key" (backdoor) to ANY
> user's system bypassing all security and passwords. Not saying it is
> true or false, but does make interesting reading.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSAKEY
>
> Then consider WHO Microsoft contacted to make Vista "safe", yep, the
> NSA. Curious, reminds me of a line from a Star Trek movie, "What does
> God need with a starship?" well duh, why does Microsoft need help
> writing a operating system form some super secret spy organization?
>
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...010801352.html
>
> We all know Microsoft programmers are reckless. So consider this
> article: Note the date, late 90's so this has been going on for a long
> time.
>
> http://www.heise.de/tp/r4/artikel/5/5263/1.html
>
> Ok, you're a trusting sole and don't think the government would ever
> spy on it's citizens.
>
> Oh really? Then you haven't been following the AT&T whistle blower
> Mark Klein, a AT&T Engineer in San Francisco that spilled the beans.
> This was a active law suite by the Electronic Frontier Foundation, a
> well known watch dog group that monitors the computer industry. It
> took a act of Congress to stop the law suit from going forward.
>
> http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/200...istleblow.html
>
> What's all the fuss about?
>
> Simple, AT&T is one of the biggest players and a major backbone
> linking major Internet networks. Well guess what, this AT&T engineer
> discovered a secret room in one of AT&T major switching centers where
> a great deal of Internet traffic, including email passes through where
> only NSA operatives had access to. In effect the NSA was plugged in
> and monitoring EVERYTHING.
>
> SCARY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ke9bzb4n_Aw
>
>
> Sleep well America.

On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 20:50:11 -0500, Ringmaster wrote:

> Snip Paranoid Blah Blah Blah
>
>
> Sleep well America.

I slept the sleep of the innocent.

You'd sleep better if you stop doing whatever you think has the NSA
bugging your activities.

Computers sure give you problems with all the whining you do.

You would be better off without one.



--
Hobbes, Tiger Extraordinaire

On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 12:06:48 +0200 (CEST), Hobbes <>
wrote:

>On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 20:50:11 -0500, Ringmaster wrote:
>
>> Snip Paranoid Blah Blah Blah
>>
>>
>> Sleep well America.
>
>I slept the sleep of the innocent.

You slept the sleep of the ignorant. Blissfully unwary of what's going
on around you and not giving a crap. So did the German people in the
1930's. For their "vigilance" they got Hitler.

On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 07:59:27 -0500, Ringmaster wrote:

> On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 12:06:48 +0200 (CEST), Hobbes <>
> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 20:50:11 -0500, Ringmaster wrote:
>>
>>> Snip Paranoid Blah Blah Blah
>>>
>>>
>>> Sleep well America.
>>
>>I slept the sleep of the innocent.
>
> You slept the sleep of the ignorant. Blissfully unwary of what's going
> on around you and not giving a crap. So did the German people in the
> 1930's. For their "vigilance" they got Hitler.

I'm ignorant ?
If you are aware and concerned of such egregious violations of your
privacy, yet use the offending software...makes you both a contributor to
the problem and a moron.

Use linux you dungus.

Neither MS nor the NSA cares.

Its just general law enforcement being applied to the internet.
If 50 people a day come to your house for 30 seconds at a time, privacy
laws don't keep the police nor your neighbors from knowing what is going
on.



--
Hobbes, Tiger Extraordinaire

"Ringmaster" <> wrote in message
news:...
> On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 12:06:48 +0200 (CEST), Hobbes <>
> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 20:50:11 -0500, Ringmaster wrote:
>>
>>> Snip Paranoid Blah Blah Blah
>>>
>>>
>>> Sleep well America.
>>
>>I slept the sleep of the innocent.
>
> You slept the sleep of the ignorant. Blissfully unwary of what's going
> on around you and not giving a crap. So did the German people in the
> 1930's. For their "vigilance" they got Hitler.
>


Ya know ... had Hitler succeeded, the German people would have done quite
well.
It was people other than Germans that Hitler was bad for.

--
Hobbes, Tiger Extraordinaire

On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:59:47 +0200 (CEST), Hobbes <>
wrote:

>On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 07:59:27 -0500, Ringmaster wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 12:06:48 +0200 (CEST), Hobbes <>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 20:50:11 -0500, Ringmaster wrote:
>>>
>>>> Snip Paranoid Blah Blah Blah
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sleep well America.
>>>
>>>I slept the sleep of the innocent.
>>
>> You slept the sleep of the ignorant. Blissfully unwary of what's going
>> on around you and not giving a crap. So did the German people in the
>> 1930's. For their "vigilance" they got Hitler.
>
>I'm ignorant ?

Beyond any doubt.

No, not in a galaxy far, far way, right here in this newsgroup some
retarded moron stumbled in. His name is Ringmaster. This dipshit thought he
was the greatest thing to come along since sliced bread, but alas that
was only in his over active imagination. For you see Ringmaster is a
nobody. Just a stupid little ****ant with no life, no talent, no
nothing. That never stops Ringmaster because Ringmaster has some psychotic
need
to act like an asshole. He gets off on it. It drives him. It is the
reason this creep gets up in the morning.


"Ringmaster" <> wrote in message
news:...
> On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:59:47 +0200 (CEST), Hobbes <>
> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 07:59:27 -0500, Ringmaster wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 12:06:48 +0200 (CEST), Hobbes <>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 20:50:11 -0500, Ringmaster wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Snip Paranoid Blah Blah Blah
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sleep well America.
>>>>
>>>>I slept the sleep of the innocent.
>>>
>>> You slept the sleep of the ignorant. Blissfully unwary of what's going
>>> on around you and not giving a crap. So did the German people in the
>>> 1930's. For their "vigilance" they got Hitler.
>>
>>I'm ignorant ?
>
> Beyond any doubt.

On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:14:17 -0400, "Hobbes" <>
wrote:

>"Ringmaster" <> wrote in message
>news:.. .
>> On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 12:06:48 +0200 (CEST), Hobbes <>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 20:50:11 -0500, Ringmaster wrote:
>>>
>>>> Snip Paranoid Blah Blah Blah
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sleep well America.
>>>
>>>I slept the sleep of the innocent.
>>
>> You slept the sleep of the ignorant. Blissfully unwary of what's going
>> on around you and not giving a crap. So did the German people in the
>> 1930's. For their "vigilance" they got Hitler.
>>
>
>
>Ya know ... had Hitler succeeded, the German people would have done quite
>well.

Doesn't take much to prove you're just another idiot does it. Nope, I
just let you hang yourself.

German troops killed in World War Two: 7,500,000. Country totally
decimated. Another 2,000,000 German civilians killed. Yep, the German
people "did quite well".

http://web.jjay.cuny.edu/~jobrien/reference/ob62.html

Hobbes <> wrote in news:g7upci$6v6$:

> Its just general law enforcement being applied to the internet.
> If 50 people a day come to your house for 30 seconds at a time,
> privacy laws don't keep the police nor your neighbors from knowing
> what is going on.

How would you like it if Russia and/or China intercepted all your email and
maybe read them too? They probably already do but that is ok with you so no
problem, right?