Cannot access Secure News Server (SSL Connection)

Hi Everyone,

I have a new Vista machine and I am trying to setup Windows Mail
to access a private newsgroup that requires a secure connection (SSL)
{Advanced Page in Newsgroups Properties - port 563}.

Anyway, after creating the news account, I then try to access the
newsgroup list. Almost immediately, I get a message that says
that "The TCP/IP connection was unexpectedly terminated by the
server."

The odd thing is that I have my old machine, which is running
Win XP SP2 and using Outlook Express 6, and it has no problems
accessing the private newsgroup.

I have verified that all the information is correct. I also do not have
any problems accessing normal newsgroups (i.e. non SLL connections).

Any information would be most helpful.

Ray
--
Ray Konopka
Raize Software, Inc.

"Ray Konopka" wrote:

> Hi Everyone,
>
> I have a new Vista machine and I am trying to setup Windows Mail
> to access a private newsgroup that requires a secure connection (SSL)
> {Advanced Page in Newsgroups Properties - port 563}.
>
> Anyway, after creating the news account, I then try to access the
> newsgroup list. Almost immediately, I get a message that says
> that "The TCP/IP connection was unexpectedly terminated by the
> server."
>
> The odd thing is that I have my old machine, which is running
> Win XP SP2 and using Outlook Express 6, and it has no problems
> accessing the private newsgroup.
>
> I have verified that all the information is correct. I also do not have
> any problems accessing normal newsgroups (i.e. non SLL connections).
>
> Any information would be most helpful.

I've had similar problems with Outlook Express/Vista but
for some reason or another (sorry to say I don't know why)
I can work around it by using Thunderbird instead.
I'm going to get my ISP (BT) on the case and if I get any joy
I'll let you know.

Cheers.

Hi Julian,

Thunderbird wont work because it does not allow me to enter two
different newsgroup accounts that have the same server. One
account is for public newsgroups, the other account is for
private newsgroups. Thunderbird does not allow you to enter
in two accounts that point to the same server.

Ray



> I've had similar problems with Outlook Express/Vista but
> for some reason or another (sorry to say I don't know why)
> I can work around it by using Thunderbird instead.
> I'm going to get my ISP (BT) on the case and if I get any joy
> I'll let you know.
>
> Cheers.

"Ray Konopka" wrote:

> Hi Julian,
>
> Thunderbird wont work because it does not allow me to enter two
> different newsgroup accounts that have the same server. One
> account is for public newsgroups, the other account is for
> private newsgroups. Thunderbird does not allow you to enter
> in two accounts that point to the same server.
>

OK.

BTW I just has the same error again and follwed the autoroute back here for
help
and by the time I had checked these posts the problem had resolved itself. ie.
I immediately downloaded more newsgroup posts without any intervention
on my part.

Since we last "spoke" I have applied a hotfix...
http://support.microsoft.com/Default.aspx?kbid=933872

I'm a student with the University of Phoenix. I need to be able to gain
access to secure newsgroups through windows mail for class purposes. PLEASE
HELP ME. When I purchased my computer in May, I was informed that Vista was
compatiable with my online classes. If you do not have a solution to this
problem I will have to return this laptop and demand Windows XP Professional.
Which is the software that I requested from the start.

"Ray Konopka" wrote:

> Hi Everyone,
>
> I have a new Vista machine and I am trying to setup Windows Mail
> to access a private newsgroup that requires a secure connection (SSL)
> {Advanced Page in Newsgroups Properties - port 563}.
>
> Anyway, after creating the news account, I then try to access the
> newsgroup list. Almost immediately, I get a message that says
> that "The TCP/IP connection was unexpectedly terminated by the
> server."
>
> The odd thing is that I have my old machine, which is running
> Win XP SP2 and using Outlook Express 6, and it has no problems
> accessing the private newsgroup.
>
> I have verified that all the information is correct. I also do not have
> any problems accessing normal newsgroups (i.e. non SLL connections).
>
> Any information would be most helpful.
>
> Ray
> --
> Ray Konopka
> Raize Software, Inc.
>
>

"Mary Lowery" <Mary > wrote in message
news:64055462-8A89-464C-85A7-...
> I'm a student with the University of Phoenix. I need to be able to gain
> access to secure newsgroups through windows mail for class purposes.
> PLEASE
> HELP ME. When I purchased my computer in May, I was informed that Vista
> was
> compatiable with my online classes. If you do not have a solution to this
> problem I will have to return this laptop and demand Windows XP
> Professional.
> Which is the software that I requested from the start.


Vista and Windows Mail are compatible with your needs. Follow the
instructions you are given for setting up Outlook Express, but do it in
Windows Mail. If you can't do that you won't be able to do it in WinXP
either.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
Do not send mail.

I am having the same problem. Has anyone found a solution yet?

Brian

"Ray Konopka" wrote:

> Hi Everyone,
>
> I have a new Vista machine and I am trying to setup Windows Mail
> to access a private newsgroup that requires a secure connection (SSL)
> {Advanced Page in Newsgroups Properties - port 563}.
>
> Anyway, after creating the news account, I then try to access the
> newsgroup list. Almost immediately, I get a message that says
> that "The TCP/IP connection was unexpectedly terminated by the
> server."
>
> The odd thing is that I have my old machine, which is running
> Win XP SP2 and using Outlook Express 6, and it has no problems
> accessing the private newsgroup.
>
> I have verified that all the information is correct. I also do not have
> any problems accessing normal newsgroups (i.e. non SLL connections).
>
> Any information would be most helpful.
>
> Ray
> --
> Ray Konopka
> Raize Software, Inc.
>
>

I am in the same boat. I can't get my UoP stuff to work in Windows Mail. I
grabbed my old laptop and tried and it works fine.

Any suggestions? Is there a setting or something I'm supposed to do in
Windows Mail? I can't get my UoP email working either.

Please help.

"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" wrote:

> "Mary Lowery" <Mary > wrote in message
> news:64055462-8A89-464C-85A7-...
> > I'm a student with the University of Phoenix. I need to be able to gain
> > access to secure newsgroups through windows mail for class purposes.
> > PLEASE
> > HELP ME. When I purchased my computer in May, I was informed that Vista
> > was
> > compatiable with my online classes. If you do not have a solution to this
> > problem I will have to return this laptop and demand Windows XP
> > Professional.
> > Which is the software that I requested from the start.
>
>
> Vista and Windows Mail are compatible with your needs. Follow the
> instructions you are given for setting up Outlook Express, but do it in
> Windows Mail. If you can't do that you won't be able to do it in WinXP
> either.
>
> --
> Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
> Do not send mail.
>

"Renee" <> wrote in message
news:7FFB9571-C269-476E-9963-...
>I am in the same boat. I can't get my UoP stuff to work in Windows Mail.
>I
> grabbed my old laptop and tried and it works fine.
>
> Any suggestions? Is there a setting or something I'm supposed to do in
> Windows Mail? I can't get my UoP email working either.
>
> Please help.
>
> "Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" wrote:
>
>> "Mary Lowery" <Mary > wrote in message
>> news:64055462-8A89-464C-85A7-...
>> > I'm a student with the University of Phoenix. I need to be able to gain
>> > access to secure newsgroups through windows mail for class purposes.
>> > PLEASE
>> > HELP ME. When I purchased my computer in May, I was informed that Vista
>> > was
>> > compatiable with my online classes. If you do not have a solution to
>> > this
>> > problem I will have to return this laptop and demand Windows XP
>> > Professional.
>> > Which is the software that I requested from the start.
>>
>>
>> Vista and Windows Mail are compatible with your needs. Follow the
>> instructions you are given for setting up Outlook Express, but do it in
>> Windows Mail. If you can't do that you won't be able to do it in WinXP
>> either.
>>
>> --
>> Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
>> Do not send mail.
>>

Does UoP not have instructions on their Web site for setting up WinMail?

If not, follow their instructions for Outlook Express. The setup is the
same in the two programs.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
Do not send mail.

No, UoP doesn't offer instructions for WinMail, so I followed the OE
instructions. My newsgroups show up fine but I get the TCP/IP error. I
followed the same process on my XP box running OE6 and it all works fine.

"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" wrote:

> "Renee" <> wrote in message
> news:7FFB9571-C269-476E-9963-...
> >I am in the same boat. I can't get my UoP stuff to work in Windows Mail.
> >I
> > grabbed my old laptop and tried and it works fine.
> >
> > Any suggestions? Is there a setting or something I'm supposed to do in
> > Windows Mail? I can't get my UoP email working either.
> >
> > Please help.
> >
> > "Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" wrote:
> >
> >> "Mary Lowery" <Mary > wrote in message
> >> news:64055462-8A89-464C-85A7-...
> >> > I'm a student with the University of Phoenix. I need to be able to gain
> >> > access to secure newsgroups through windows mail for class purposes.
> >> > PLEASE
> >> > HELP ME. When I purchased my computer in May, I was informed that Vista
> >> > was
> >> > compatiable with my online classes. If you do not have a solution to
> >> > this
> >> > problem I will have to return this laptop and demand Windows XP
> >> > Professional.
> >> > Which is the software that I requested from the start.
> >>
> >>
> >> Vista and Windows Mail are compatible with your needs. Follow the
> >> instructions you are given for setting up Outlook Express, but do it in
> >> Windows Mail. If you can't do that you won't be able to do it in WinXP
> >> either.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
> >> Do not send mail.
> >>
>
> Does UoP not have instructions on their Web site for setting up WinMail?
>
> If not, follow their instructions for Outlook Express. The setup is the
> same in the two programs.
>
> --
> Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
> Do not send mail.
>
>